Darnell Coles resigns, Lee Tunnell and Dan Wright dismissed (per Haudricourt)

[TURBO]

yet still, there are no stats on whomever replaces Coles.

 

There is no way to tell if your original statement is fact, which still makes it an opinion.

 

Makes no difference either way, but sometimes people get called out for stating opinions as facts.

 

Everyone does it, so no biggie.

[Thurston Fluff]

All of them were holdovers from the last regime. They may have been perfectly fine at their job but the people in charge want to go with people they are more comfortable with for whatever reason. For all we know they may have been to similar to others and the team wanted more diverse opinions so more players had someone they could relate to. All I know is Counsell and Stearns have their name attached to how things pan out so they should be allowed to chose who to work with regardless of how competent the current guys are.

[sveumrules]

yet still, there are no stats on whomever replaces Coles.

 

There is no way to tell if your original statement is fact, which still makes it an opinion.

 

Makes no difference either way, but sometimes people get called out for stating opinions as facts.

 

Everyone does it, so no biggie.

 

My original statement was not presented as fact (thus the "or at the very least, a much easier to measure" parenthetical aside).

 

And even once someone is hired to replace Coles, and the entire 2019 season has been played & the stats are final, it will be impossible to tell if our holdovers from 2018 performed better or worse because of a change in skill level, regression to the mean, coaching, luck, injury, issues in their personal life, or any of a number of factors that could possibly contribute.

 

Conversely, if we trade for Whit Merrifield (or Hiura gets called up & rakes) it will be a lot easier to tell why our 2B wRC+ went from 78 in 2018 to 115 (hypothetically) in 2019.

[patrickgpe]

Personally I hope they make dabney the bullpen coach and go outside for hitting.

 

It is my opinion that these 2 positions are the least significant on any staff, so I won’t get too bent out of shape on whoever they hire though.

[Ennder]

Brewers were 13th out of 30 teams in most affected by injuries on the year. Not sure why everyone is saying we had a healthy year. It wasn't a disaster year by any means but it wasn't particularly healthy either. Most of the key players on the team ended up on the DL at some point.

[markedman5]

Buehler dominating the Red Sox like he dominated us in Game 7.

[folly412]

Brewers were 13th out of 30 teams in most affected by injuries on the year. Not sure why everyone is saying we had a healthy year. It wasn't a disaster year by any means but it wasn't particularly healthy either. Most of the key players on the team ended up on the DL at some point.

 

Also imbalanced. The first half was brutal with all the injuries. Second half was really healthy. No idea what answer is if there is one in terms of whether it's "better" to be plagued by injuries early, late, or even throughout the season.

[Pugger]

The offense killed them to finish last season and it was the weakness all year again this year in spite adding great high obp contact guys in Cain/yelich. Then it completely disappeared in 5/7 games in the NLCS. It doesn't surprise me at all that they just want to shake it up a bit and get a new voice/eyes. I was hoping for it myself.

 

Plate discipline has been an issue with this team for a while. The guys struck out too much and has a devil of a time moving base runners along especially RISP. It wouldn't be fun to find out how many runners we left on base...

[Pugger]

Buehler dominating the Red Sox like he dominated us in Game 7.

 

Yes, he's gonna be good one for the Dodgers for a long time.

[brewmann04]

I heard Rock inquired about the hitting coach job.

[brewmann04]

I don't have an issue with Coles time for a change there be curious who the new guy will be think it will come from outside. As for Lee i am suprised and i agree sure DJ will have a big say.

[KeithStone53151]

If we can somehow add one or two more high OBP/contact guys this offseason it will have a much greater (or at the very least, a much easier to measure) impact than whomsoever we hire as hitting coach.

 

This exactly. It's a team full of flawed and bad hitters. We have absolutely no clue what Coles does behind the scenes, but unless he's telling the guys to take pitches over the plate and then flail at anything the pitcher throws with 2 strikes I'd give Coles 5-10% of the blame for the hitters sucking.

 

A team full of flawed, bad hitters. Reeeeeally? Don't we have 2 hitters in the top 5 of the mvp voting? Who exactly are these bad, flawed hitters on the roster on this team that made the nlcs?

[jerichoholicninja]

If we can somehow add one or two more high OBP/contact guys this offseason it will have a much greater (or at the very least, a much easier to measure) impact than whomsoever we hire as hitting coach.

 

This exactly. It's a team full of flawed and bad hitters. We have absolutely no clue what Coles does behind the scenes, but unless he's telling the guys to take pitches over the plate and then flail at anything the pitcher throws with 2 strikes I'd give Coles 5-10% of the blame for the hitters sucking.

 

A team full of flawed, bad hitters. Reeeeeally? Don't we have 2 hitters in the top 5 of the mvp voting? Who exactly are these bad, flawed hitters on the roster on this team that made the nlcs?

 

Everyone other than Cain and Yelich.

[adambr2]

Travis Shaw is a bad, flawed hitter? Aguilar is a bad, flawed hitter?

[3and2Fastball]

Travis Shaw is a bad, flawed hitter? Aguilar is a bad, flawed hitter?

 

Shaw is OK. He should never, ever face LHP's. Aguillar clearly has holes that MLB pitchers found in the 2nd half. He'll need to adjust back.

[KeithStone53151]

Travis Shaw is a bad, flawed hitter? Aguilar is a bad, flawed hitter?

 

This was my point. Those 2 guys he listed will finish in the top 5 of mvp voting this year with yelich winning it. Id bet shaw and aguilar would finish somewhere in the top 25. You can argue we were weak at 1-2 spots in the lineup, but if your expectation is 8 guys that all finish in the top 10 or 15 of mvp voting.... you'll be consistently disappointed. Even the juggernaut that is Boston had some roster holes.

[clancyphile]

If we can somehow add one or two more high OBP/contact guys this offseason it will have a much greater (or at the very least, a much easier to measure) impact than whomsoever we hire as hitting coach.

 

This exactly. It's a team full of flawed and bad hitters. We have absolutely no clue what Coles does behind the scenes, but unless he's telling the guys to take pitches over the plate and then flail at anything the pitcher throws with 2 strikes I'd give Coles 5-10% of the blame for the hitters sucking.

 

A team full of flawed, bad hitters. Reeeeeally? Don't we have 2 hitters in the top 5 of the mvp voting? Who exactly are these bad, flawed hitters on the roster on this team that made the nlcs?

 

The offense has been feats-or-famine all too often.

 

I don't think the hitters themselves are flawed, but there is a limited capability for some things, like moving runners over or getting a run in. Our best hitter had a cold stretch in the NLCS. Others struggled as well.

 

Even then, it's not a bad idea to try to improve those fundamentals. Some of these are skills that can be learned.

[Point Beer Is Best]

I heard Rock inquired about the hitting coach job.

 

I think you're referencing the infamous "Brewer World" twitter account.

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#DBacks have identified Darnell Coles as the leading candidate to be their next hitting coach, sources tell The Athletic. Deal is not yet finalized.

[brewcrewdue80]

Tim Dillard Bullpen coach? Ya think?

The post on previous page on OPS+ at the positions is telling. Worse at every position but Cain/Yelich. Continued terrible clutch basics unless you were Yelich.

Great point on Counsell working with Molitor being odd. Maybe Stearns is going latch another Houston Astros product he is familiar with.

[ctmyers]

Coles hired as D-back's hitting coach:

 

http://arizonasports.com/story/1718331/d-backs-hire-darnell-coles-hitting-coach-vacancy/

[Boomer5]

I have my golf coach on speed dial and I’ve been golfing for 40 years. He is part coach and part therapist when I have one of those days. Just being a superior athlete and tons of muscle memory even with the much discussed 10,000 hours of practice needs guidance regularly.

 

A pitching and hitting coach is critical to the success of an athlete, yes even at the highest levels.

[recte44]

Eric Hinske is now available as old friend Jeremy Reed was named Angels hitting coach today.

[FVBrewerFan]

I have my golf coach on speed dial and I’ve been golfing for 40 years. He is part coach and part therapist when I have one of those days. Just being a superior athlete and tons of muscle memory even with the much discussed 10,000 hours of practice needs guidance regularly.

 

A pitching and hitting coach is critical to the success of an athlete, yes even at the highest levels.

 

No doubt. It's not easy being a superior athlete, we need constant fine tuning.

[long ball]

I have my golf coach on speed dial and I’ve been golfing for 40 years. He is part coach and part therapist when I have one of those days. Just being a superior athlete and tons of muscle memory even with the much discussed 10,000 hours of practice needs guidance regularly.

 

A pitching and hitting coach is critical to the success of an athlete, yes even at the highest levels.

 

No doubt. It's not easy being a superior athlete, we need constant fine tuning.

 

Exactly. That’s why the brewers should be investing in high speed cameras for Miller park and Maryvale as well as a biomechanics expert.

 

Know what players are doing when they’re going well and be able to identify the issues and correct them when things are going poorly.