Marwin Gonzalez

[jonescm128]

If the Brewers aren't going to keep Moose or Schoop, then I would like to see them go after a guy like Marwin Gonzalez. He may not put up the power numbers of Moose or Schoop can but he is a career .737 switch hitter with extreme defensive versatility. That sounds like someone we could use. Stearns should be used to him from his days in Houston as well.

 

Thoughts?

[tmwiese55]

I think we'd all take him in general. like always, price will be the question. I'd be worried that due to the postseason runs he'll get more money/years than we want to pay. Theoretically he'd fit perfectly with what MKE is trying to do. I had him in Fantasy this year, so I was watching him and one has to point out that he was basically terrible for the first half of the year. Generally speaking, I think the right away to look at him is that his offensive year in 2017 was likely an outlier and not to expect that again. Think more in the 265/320 type area, which of course is nothing special so we don't want to go overboard with how much you commit to him. His no drastic splits and ability to play anywhere are great though.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

On paper, he seems like a great fit. Depends on the cost. There are plenty of middle infield options available who could come cheap and don't require a big commitment. I could still see it happening with Marwin because of how much playing time is available for the 5th infielder in Counsell's rotation.

[jonescm128]

I think we'd all take him in general. like always, price will be the question. I'd be worried that due to the postseason runs he'll get more money/years than we want to pay. Theoretically he'd fit perfectly with what MKE is trying to do. I had him in Fantasy this year, so I was watching him and one has to point out that he was basically terrible for the first half of the year. Generally speaking, I think the right away to look at him is that his offensive year in 2017 was likely an outlier and not to expect that again. Think more in the 265/320 type area, which of course is nothing special so we don't want to go overboard with how much you commit to him. His no drastic splits and ability to play anywhere are great though.

 

Oh for sure. I think it would be foolish to expect a repeat of 2017 but I think he could bring a lot of value. That way we wouldn't have to roll out the likes of Perez, Saladino, Broxton, Orf, Miller, etc.

 

If you could only pick one between Gonzalez, Moose, and Schoop (should all be commanding similar dollar figures) who would you take? Yes I know a lot goes into that decision but I think I would take Gonzalez over the others.

[tmwiese55]

I'd agree if given the choice of those 3 I go with Marwin. If only it was that simple, haha

[long ball]

From my position as arm chair GM, I think upgrading the super utility role on this team is important. Continuing to give Perez 350-400 PAs a season is a killer when he doesn't bring elite defense to any of the position he plays.

 

Look at Taylor and Hernandez for the Dodgers. Gonzalez for the Astros. Zobrist and Happ for the Cubs. Even Culberson for the Braves. All of those playoff teams had above average hitters as their super sub guy(s).

 

If the Brewers are going to continue to trot out below average hitters at SS and C on a daily basis they can't really afford to keep giving a hitter as bad as Perez 350+ PA a year.

[Devinep]

From my position as arm chair GM, I think upgrading the super utility role on this team is important. Continuing to give Perez 350-400 PAs a season is a killer when he doesn't bring elite defense to any of the position he plays.

 

Look at Taylor and Hernandez for the Dodgers. Gonzalez for the Astros. Zobrist and Happ for the Cubs. Even Culberson for the Braves. All of those playoff teams had above average hitters as their super sub guy(s).

 

If the Brewers are going to continue to trot out below average hitters at SS and C on a daily basis they can't really afford to keep giving a hitter as bad as Perez 350+ PA a year.

 

Yeah the only way to keep CC from overplaying Perez is to get rid of him. It’s like when a kid just can’t use a knife yet and ends up doing more harm than good. Perez can be useful, but he’s overused.

 

However, I wouldn’t see Gonzalez as a replacement for Perez until Huiras ready. Gonzslez would make a good super sub but would immediately be the everyday 2B until Huira can be. CC just needs to learn Perez only plays vs LHP until then (hopefully later in 2019)

[long ball]

From my position as arm chair GM, I think upgrading the super utility role on this team is important. Continuing to give Perez 350-400 PAs a season is a killer when he doesn't bring elite defense to any of the position he plays.

 

Look at Taylor and Hernandez for the Dodgers. Gonzalez for the Astros. Zobrist and Happ for the Cubs. Even Culberson for the Braves. All of those playoff teams had above average hitters as their super sub guy(s).

 

If the Brewers are going to continue to trot out below average hitters at SS and C on a daily basis they can't really afford to keep giving a hitter as bad as Perez 350+ PA a year.

 

Yeah the only way to keep CC from overplaying Perez is to get rid of him. It’s like when a kid just can’t use a knife yet and ends up doing more harm than good. Perez can be useful, but he’s overused.

 

However, I wouldn’t see Gonzalez as a replacement for Perez until Huiras ready. Gonzslez would make a good super sub but would immediately be the everyday 2B until Huira can be. CC just needs to learn Perez only plays vs LHP until then (hopefully later in 2019)

 

I agree that If they signed Gonzalez he would be the primary 2b until Hiura is ready to take over that role. I'm not sure how aggressive they'll be with promoting Hiura. He was good, but not great after the call up to AA. He could be up as early as late April or he could be up much later in the season.

 

I think Gonzalez probably gets a multi year contract so having a long term plan for him as super sub is what I was getting at.

[MadThinker88]

Buster Olney was reporting on the BBTN podcast over the past week plus that officials in Houston view Gonzalez as their best 2B.

Considering Altuve just had knee surgery after the season ended, I could see the Astros offering/paying Marwin a large amount of money to make it harder for him to go & tougher for a smaller market team to match/ surpass.

[Eye Black]

Marwin González seems like a much better version of Hernán Pérez. In a vacuum I would take that upgrade in a heartbeat, but with the likely financial commitment it will take to sign him it may not be worth the upgrade (as compared to using that money to upgrade other places).

 

Still I wouldn’t completely rule it out, and have confidence that the Brewers will check in on just about every worthwhile free agent this off-season.

[OnaBadger58]

Jon Heyman

@JonHeyman

 

Marwin did not receive a qualifying offer #astros

 

4:27 PM - 2 Nov 2018

[sveumrules]

MLBTR has Marwin estimated at 4/36 in their recently released predictions.

[clancyphile]

I like Gonzalez as a complement to Perez on the Brewers bench. Perez is really a valuable player for his versatility and ability to hit lefties.

[TURBO]

Jon Heyman of Fancred hears that free agent Marwin Gonzalez has already drawn interest from "everyone but one team."

 

Gonzalez had a down year at the plate in 2018, but he slashed .303/.377/.530 with 23 home runs and 90 RBI over 134 games with the Astros in 2017. The 29-year-old can also play just about every position on the field. He should do very well for himself on the open market this offseason given his defensive versatility and the past offensive production. It's looking like this will not be a buy-low situation for the team that winds up landing him.

 

Source: Jon Heyman on TwitterNov 8 - 1:47 PM

[KeithStone53151]

Jon Heyman of Fancred hears that free agent Marwin Gonzalez has already drawn interest from "everyone but one team."

 

Gonzalez had a down year at the plate in 2018, but he slashed .303/.377/.530 with 23 home runs and 90 RBI over 134 games with the Astros in 2017. The 29-year-old can also play just about every position on the field. He should do very well for himself on the open market this offseason given his defensive versatility and the past offensive production. It's looking like this will not be a buy-low situation for the team that winds up landing him.

 

Source: Jon Heyman on TwitterNov 8 - 1:47 PM

 

I'm not surprised. What team couldn't use a guy like him? I suspect he winds up in the NL somewhere, as he'll be better utilized by a good NL manager.

[long ball]

Jon Heyman of Fancred hears that free agent Marwin Gonzalez has already drawn interest from "everyone but one team."

 

Gonzalez had a down year at the plate in 2018, but he slashed .303/.377/.530 with 23 home runs and 90 RBI over 134 games with the Astros in 2017. The 29-year-old can also play just about every position on the field. He should do very well for himself on the open market this offseason given his defensive versatility and the past offensive production. It's looking like this will not be a buy-low situation for the team that winds up landing him.

 

Source: Jon Heyman on TwitterNov 8 - 1:47 PM

 

Heyman is basically a hype man for Boras clients, but if almost every team has checked in on Marwin Gonzalez that probably means the Brewers will not be signing him.

 

I like him at the 3/21 type deal that Escobar signed, but at the 3/30+ predictions I've seen I would have no interest.

[KeithStone53151]

Jon Heyman of Fancred hears that free agent Marwin Gonzalez has already drawn interest from "everyone but one team."

 

Gonzalez had a down year at the plate in 2018, but he slashed .303/.377/.530 with 23 home runs and 90 RBI over 134 games with the Astros in 2017. The 29-year-old can also play just about every position on the field. He should do very well for himself on the open market this offseason given his defensive versatility and the past offensive production. It's looking like this will not be a buy-low situation for the team that winds up landing him.

 

Source: Jon Heyman on TwitterNov 8 - 1:47 PM

 

Heyman is basically a hype man for Boras clients, but if almost every team has checked in on Marwin Gonzalez that probably means the Brewers will not be signing him.

 

I like him at the 3/21 type deal that Escobar signed, but at the 3/30+ predictions I've seen I would have no interest.

 

This guy might approach Zobrist territory or close to it. If he's a Boras client, I'm sure he's eyeing that number and has the asking price north of it. I don't think he'll get it, but he should get close.

[reillymcshane]

I think Marwin will be able to get 4/$40M+. It just takes one team to really fall in love with his skillset. Plus, he's not even 30 (turns 30 in March of next year), so it's not like you're paying him when he's really old. His versatility really makes him an attractive player to have on the team.