Schoop news (Latest- Non-Tendered)

[DHonks]

I still think the plan for Schoop is to tender him and then try to negotiate a palatable contract amount for 2019 before his arbitration hearing arrives. He made $10M based off a very good year in 2017, 2018 was poor. The Brewers could submit a lowball arbitration offer, and Schoop's camp would be wise not to try and submit a figure much over $10M - then the two sides could hopefully iron out a deal at or even slightly below $10M to avoid the hearing. If that doesn't materialize, the Brewers could either win the hearing and have Schoop for $8-10M, or lose the hearing and have him potentially at $12M.

 

The way arby works is that he won't get the same amount or less than last year. It's based on the totality of his work, and therefore offering any less than $.5M more than last year would be considered low-ball offer. Sorry, there's no way he gets $8-10M unless he signs before the deadline.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

Dietrich clearing waivers probably signals a non tender for Schoop. Whether he's the guy they sign or not, its one more addition to a crowded field that can play 2B. I think Stearns lands Dietrich though. That versailtity, his numbers away from Marlins Park, and his LH bat make too much sense. I think there's a good chance Dietrich is signed before Friday's tender deadline.

 

At least when they sign Cabrera, everyone will be well versed as to why.

 

The second quote is from a different thread.

 

I find it highly unlikely that the Brewers will be signing both guys. I could see one of them being of interest to Milwaukee, specifically Dietrich, but not both ending up here. I am curious why you believe that the Brewers will be signing Dietrich on top of signing Asdrubal Cabrera?

 

Dietrich was just DFA'd on November 20th so he wasn't on the market when I pegged Cabrera as the fit to bridge to Hiura. Both are good fits which means the buyer's market just got stronger. If Stearns can't land Dietrich, my money is on Cabrera next.

[502 to Right]

I think they non-tender Schoop but see if they can bring him back at a lower salary than he would have gotten in arbitration. In other words, they'd be interesting in keeping him for 2019 but not at $8.5+ million. I don't see Schoop having a robust market elsewhere so this strategy could pay off.

[And That]

According to Ken Rosenthal, Brewers are leaning towards non-tendering Schoop.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

According to Ken Rosenthal, Brewers are leaning towards non-tendering Schoop.

 

Not surprising and what I expected.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

According to Ken Rosenthal, Brewers are leaning towards non-tendering Schoop.

 

I hope they can get someone to bite on him in the next 24 hours if that's the case.

[long ball]

If the Brewers non-tender Schoop, I wonder if he will get a multi year deal or if he will sign a 1-year deal hoping to have a bounce back season.

 

I agree with non-tendering Schoop and I was a fan of the trade initially. Stack good decisions. Don't compound bad ones.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

If the Brewers non-tender Schoop, I wonder if he will get a multi year deal or if he will sign a 1-year deal hoping to have a bounce back season.

 

I agree with non-tendering Schoop and I was a fan of the trade initially. Stack good decisions. Don't compound bad ones.

 

Given his age, I would imagine he'll have his choice of 2-3 year deals at roughly $7 million per year.

 

I'm in a tough spot regarding Schoop, because I don't want to see him on the 2019 roster, yet it would make me sick to give him up without getting any value in return. I would personally love to see the "change of scenery" deal with Schoop going to the Yankees for Sonny Gray. The Yankees may be more amenable to paying Schoop $10 million for one year, given Gregorious is going to be out for an extended period of 2019, than having to compete with other teams to sign him to a multi-year deal. It all depends on what other teams are offering for Gray.

[RollieTime]

If Schoop is non-tendered, I would think that Stearns has a different idea in mind of what to do with second base. Maybe he is looking at signing someone like Dietrich or Gonzalez? Is Shaw going to play second all year and we sign or trade for a third baseman? Could Hiura actually start the season at second base for the Brewers even though Stearns stated that would not be happening?

 

If Schoop is on the move, it’ll be interesting to see what happens the next few months.

[JohnBriggs12]

They could still sign him even if he's non-tendered. Heck for all we know they are negotiating with him now on a one year deal for a lesser guarantee but with incentives that could bring him close to the expected arbitration number. That's what I'd be doing.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

They could still sign him even if he's non-tendered. Heck for all we know they are negotiating with him now on a one year deal for a lesser guarantee but with incentives that could bring him close to the expected arbitration number. That's what I'd be doing.

 

What would be Schoop's motivation to do that when on the open market he'll get multiple years of more guaranteed money that he'd be offered in incentives?

[502 to Right]

They could still sign him even if he's non-tendered. Heck for all we know they are negotiating with him now on a one year deal for a lesser guarantee but with incentives that could bring him close to the expected arbitration number. That's what I'd be doing.

 

What would be Schoop's motivation to do that when on the open market he'll get multiple years of more guaranteed money that he'd be offered in incentives?

 

There's no guarantee he will get multiple years or more $ than what the Brewers would pay. That said, there's no way he's agreeing to something with the Brewers now. He'll make the rounds and see what offers he gets.

[monty57]

If Schoop is non-tendered, I would think that Stearns has a different idea in mind of what to do with second base. Maybe he is looking at signing someone like Dietrich or Gonzalez? Is Shaw going to play second all year and we sign or trade for a third baseman? Could Hiura actually start the season at second base for the Brewers even though Stearns stated that would not be happening?

 

If Schoop is on the move, it’ll be interesting to see what happens the next few months.

 

He doesn't need to start the season at second base. If they think he's ready, they'd keep him in the minors a couple of months and then bring him up. If that's the plan, then we'd probably just need to patch together second base with the guys we have until Huira is called up.

[sveumrules]

Who was the last arbitration eligible player that was non-tendered & subsequently signed a multi year deal?

[True Blue Brew Crew]

They could still sign him even if he's non-tendered. Heck for all we know they are negotiating with him now on a one year deal for a lesser guarantee but with incentives that could bring him close to the expected arbitration number. That's what I'd be doing.

 

What would be Schoop's motivation to do that when on the open market he'll get multiple years of more guaranteed money that he'd be offered in incentives?

 

There's no guarantee he will get multiple years or more $ than what the Brewers would pay. That said, there's no way he's agreeing to something with the Brewers now. He'll make the rounds and see what offers he gets.

 

He's 27 years old and one year removed from receiving MVP votes. He's going to get multi-year offers with more guaranteed money than any potential 1 year incentive-laden deal that probably isn't even on the table.

[And That]

Who was the last arbitration eligible player that was non-tendered & subsequently signed a multi year deal?

Jared Hughes?

[502 to Right]

He's 27 years old and one year removed from receiving MVP votes. He's going to get multi-year offers with more guaranteed money than any potential 1 year incentive-laden deal that probably isn't even on the table.

 

I doubt that. Not this year. And if he does sign a multi-year deal I'm betting it will be for a total value of less than $10 million.

[trwi7]

No team is giving him a multi-year deal because if he plays like he did again in 2018, they're stuck with him for multiple years.

[502 to Right]

No team is giving him a multi-year deal because if he plays like he did again in 2018, they're stuck with him for multiple years.

 

Plus, there are plenty of other 2B's available in the FA market that are worth multi-year deals.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

We shall see. My bet is that he'll get a two year deal from somebody. Even the 1 year offers he'll get are better than an incentive deal.

[SeaBass]

No team is giving him a multi-year deal because if he plays like he did again in 2018, they're stuck with him for multiple years.

 

Plus, there are plenty of other 2B's available in the FA market that are worth multi-year deals.

I'm not sure how team/player options work for arbitration players but I could see the Brewers or some other team offering him a 2 year deal with a team or even mutual option for the 2nd year.

[adambr2]

I doubt Schoop is back here anyway regardless of what his market may be. Just my opinion. Never really got the sense from his body language that he ever really felt comfortable here. My guess is he starts over somewhere else.

 

Or back with the Orioles would not overly surprise me either.

[dlk9s]

That grand slam will always give Schoop a place in Brewers history, at least.

[Eye Black]

I have been mostly indifferent regarding whether or not the Brewers non-tender Schoop, but now I am rooting for it simply to find out their alternate plan.

[pacopete4]

That grand slam will always give Schoop a place in Brewers history, at least.

 

Yes, I had beer spilt all over me and many high fives with that homer. Great memory.