Dodgers v Brewers

[MrTPlush]

He made a bunch of comments. I would boo him relentlessly if I was a dodger fan. You don't do that to the fans...ever.

 

Their fans were pathetic. Quiet in a close NLCS game like it was some regular season tilt with the Padres. The only time they sounded like 50K is when they were booing their own player.

[homer]

If Hernandez wants the crowd to be loud he should encourage his teammates to get hits and score runs and not commit errors or base running gaffes.

[coolhandluke121]

If Hernandez wants the crowd to be loud he should encourage his teammates to get hits and score runs and not commit errors or base running gaffes.

 

Nah, he should tell them to keep doing what they're doing. It's fine. Keep up the good work.

[MrTPlush]

To use the bullpen and count on your offense to score a simple extra run only to watch them fail after 13innings is pretty brutal. That’s a win you should have...easy. Amazing to think that would have all but put us on the doorstep of a World Series...instead we are fighting another day in an even series.

 

Would be nice to go up 3-2 on our way home instead of needing to win both home games...I think we can win 2/3 regardless, but the offense really could use some kind of showing.

 

Might have to avoid the IGT thread as I am sure it will be loaded with negativity after last night, especially if we start to lose.

[dlk9s]

I would have to think they DL Gio and add Davies to the roster. Just think they need another starter, preferably for Game 6 so Chacin doesn't have to go on short rest.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

To use the bullpen and count on your offense to score a simple extra run only to watch them fail after 13innings is pretty brutal. That’s a win you should have...easy. Amazing to think that would have all but put us on the doorstep of a World Series...instead we are fighting another day in an even series.

 

Would be nice to go up 3-2 on our way home instead of needing to win both home games...I think we can win 2/3 regardless, but the offense really could use some kind of showing.

 

Might have to avoid the IGT thread as I am sure it will be loaded with negativity after last night, especially if we start to lose.

 

7 a.m. central, and it already is!

[Boomer5]

To use the bullpen and count on your offense to score a simple extra run only to watch them fail after 13innings is pretty brutal. That’s a win you should have...easy. Amazing to think that would have all but put us on the doorstep of a World Series...instead we are fighting another day in an even series.

 

Would be nice to go up 3-2 on our way home instead of needing to win both home games...I think we can win 2/3 regardless, but the offense really could use some kind of showing.

 

Might have to avoid the IGT thread as I am sure it will be loaded with negativity after last night, especially if we start to lose.

 

You can’t blame anyone for being negative. Our regular season stars fell hard. Well Schoop was Schoop so there’s that.

[MrTPlush]

It isn't like we are trotting out Marcum in a Game 6 situation. I remember when Roenicke announced he was sticking with Marcum I opted to not even turn on the game...and that was the first postseason team for me watching the Brewers religiously (started in 2009). It ended up so predictable.

 

This is a lot different than that though.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

To use the bullpen and count on your offense to score a simple extra run only to watch them fail after 13innings is pretty brutal. That’s a win you should have...easy. Amazing to think that would have all but put us on the doorstep of a World Series...instead we are fighting another day in an even series.

 

Would be nice to go up 3-2 on our way home instead of needing to win both home games...I think we can win 2/3 regardless, but the offense really could use some kind of showing.

 

Might have to avoid the IGT thread as I am sure it will be loaded with negativity after last night, especially if we start to lose.

 

You can’t blame anyone for being negative. Our regular season stars fell hard. Well Schoop was Schoop so there’s that.

 

I totally get being negative. That game was the ultimate gut punch. But to declare the series over? Or that the Brewers don't stand a chance? I think that's over the top.

[Boomer5]

It isn't like we are trotting out Marcum in a Game 6 situation. I remember when Roenicke announced he was sticking with Marcum I opted to not even turn on the game...and that was the first postseason team for me watching the Brewers religiously (started in 2009). It ended up so predictable.

 

This is a lot different than that though.

 

That’s the problem; our pitching outside of a Gio and JJ has been spectacular. Easily the best Brewer pitching performance in our teams history.

 

It’s the offense that has nothing.

[MrTPlush]

It’s the offense that has nothing.

 

I would rather hope an offense with offensive firepower has a good day vs. hoping trash pitching puts up zeros. So at least we got that going for us.

[stalton]

Not sure where to put this but I wonder what the Dodger players think of Machado. I suppose elite baseball can cover up his attitude, but that can't help the clubhouse at all.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Not sure where to put this but I wonder what the Dodger players think of Machado. I suppose elite baseball can cover up his attitude, but that can't help the clubhouse at all.

 

I think they probably know that there's about a 99% chance that Machado won't be there next year (as Seeger will be back from injury), and they all want to win. If he does something stupid enough to get suspended or tossed from a game, they'll be mad. Otherwise I doubt they are even thinking about it.

[Samurai Bucky]

Would this be the place to revise the "why didn't Arcia bunt" thread?

[Brewcrewin07]

I think the bigger issue the Brewers will have...whether they win today or not, is will Roberts now move Buehler up to game 6 instead?? I think if the Dodgers win today, he probably sticks with him in game 7(though certainly could use him in 6 to finish it off), but...if they lose and face Elimination on Friday...does he really want to go down knowing he had the chance to fire that bullet one more time and didn't?? I can't see how WB doesn't pitch game 6 instead of game 7 if the Dodgers are on the brink of elimination.

[MrTPlush]

Would this be the place to revise the "why didn't Arcia bunt" thread?

 

The bigger blunder was failing to walk the bases loaded to get to a pitcher in the inning we ended up losing the game in. There just is not excuse for that big of a managerial blunder. Counsell has done great in the postseason, but that was a big ole fail that is pretty hard to debate.

[B-Train]

Would this be the place to revise the "why didn't Arcia bunt" thread?

 

The bigger blunder was failing to walk the bases loaded to get to a pitcher in the inning we ended up losing the game in. There just is not excuse for that big of a managerial blunder. Counsell has done great in the postseason, but that was a big ole fail that is pretty hard to debate.

 

In addition to that, there were a few on the IGT thread who mentioned they would rather pitch to Grandal than Bellinger. Inference being that some were not looking 2 batters ahead. I can't believe CC failed to do that, but still wonder why Guerra did not execute the "plan" of extending the zone so as to not give him a pitch to hit. Seemed that perhaps a lack of clearly communicating the plan was the problem.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Would this be the place to revise the "why didn't Arcia bunt" thread?

 

The bigger blunder was failing to walk the bases loaded to get to a pitcher in the inning we ended up losing the game in. There just is not excuse for that big of a managerial blunder. Counsell has done great in the postseason, but that was a big ole fail that is pretty hard to debate.

 

Yep. Granted the Brewers offense was doing nothing, but that decision took away an opportunity. I don't know how much longer Guerra could have lasted after that inning, as it looked like he was starting to tire, but that was a Managing 101-level blunder. It is very possible that the outcome could have very well ended up the same way, but any chance is better than none.

[MrTPlush]

Would this be the place to revise the "why didn't Arcia bunt" thread?

 

The bigger blunder was failing to walk the bases loaded to get to a pitcher in the inning we ended up losing the game in. There just is not excuse for that big of a managerial blunder. Counsell has done great in the postseason, but that was a big ole fail that is pretty hard to debate.

 

In addition to that, there were a few on the IGT thread who mentioned they would rather pitch to Grandal than Bellinger. Inference being that some were not looking 2 batters ahead. I can't believe CC failed to do that, but still wonder why Guerra did not execute the "plan" of extending the zone so as to not give him a pitch to hit. Seemed that perhaps a lack of clearly communicating the plan was the problem.

 

Yup it was like a double whammy. I just don't understand why you go after him there...it just did not make sense.

[MadScientist]

Would this be the place to revise the "why didn't Arcia bunt" thread?

How about why didn't Moose bunt?

[PlayerHader]

Would this be the place to revise the "why didn't Arcia bunt" thread?

 

The bigger blunder was failing to walk the bases loaded to get to a pitcher in the inning we ended up losing the game in. There just is not excuse for that big of a managerial blunder. Counsell has done great in the postseason, but that was a big ole fail that is pretty hard to debate.

 

I think they were hoping to ride another inning out of Guerra, and the best setup for that to be successful was to have him facing 8, 9, 1 in the 14th. Bellinger had been struggling, as well.

 

I think walking him is the obvious choice when BP arms are plentiful.

[B-Train]

Would this be the place to revise the "why didn't Arcia bunt" thread?

 

The bigger blunder was failing to walk the bases loaded to get to a pitcher in the inning we ended up losing the game in. There just is not excuse for that big of a managerial blunder. Counsell has done great in the postseason, but that was a big ole fail that is pretty hard to debate.

 

I think they were hoping to ride another inning out of Guerra, and the best setup for that to be successful was to have him facing 8, 9, 1 in the 14th. Bellinger had been struggling, as well.

 

I think walking him is the obvious choice when BP arms are plentiful.

 

Yes, in a sense I believe Counsell got too consumed with planning the next inning. He wanted to get Bellinger so the next inning would be likely outs right away (Grandal and pitcher).

[tmwiese55]

I think the move would've been only walking Bellinger. With Guerra's frequent spiking of the breaking ball and splitter you don't want to walk the bases loaded and open up the wild pitch. Also want to leave wiggle room in case of a legit walk. Plus want the next inning to start with the P if you can make it happen

[B-Train]

I think the move would've been only walking Bellinger. With Guerra's frequent spiking of the breaking ball and splitter you don't want to walk the bases loaded and open up the wild pitch. Also want to leave wiggle room in case of a legit walk. Plus want the next inning to start with the P if you can make it happen

 

There were 3 ways to go with this and each has trade offs. In CC's post game presser he stated that he was walking Grandal if/when Bellinger was walked. Some talking heads were not buying that either. MLB network folks even doubted that the plan was to expand the zone on Bellinger. Bellinger stated that he was surprised Guerra came right at him.

[Samurai Bucky]

Would this be the place to revise the "why didn't Arcia bunt" thread?

How about why didn't Moose bunt?

When?

Moose's at bats:

2nd inning, runner on 1st, 0 out

4nd inning, runner on 1st, 0 out

6th inning, runner on 1st, 1 out

8th inning, runner on 1st, 2 out

11th inning, lead off

13th inning, runner on 1st, 2 out

 

Arcia's at bat in question:

7th inning, runner on 2nd, 0 out.

 

Hader had not yet pitched at that point. Bunt, move Pina to third with one out. As it turns out, Granderson came in and hit a fly ball. True, that didn't guarantee the run would score, but I would have liked to have seen Counsell go "old school" to try and get that runner to third with one out. Score the run and get to Hader and Knebel to close it out.