Trade Targets Starting Pitching 2018-19

[rickh150]

Kluber for a package of Peralta, Ray, Davies, and change?

[JohnBriggs12]

I know we talked about Merrifield a ton around the trade deadline, but I still love the idea of adding that bat to our lineup for 2019 and beyond. But, what would it take to get him from the Royals? Since they are now just starting their rebuild, I'm guessing they are going to want younger prospects - and probably wouldn't have any interest in a guy like Domingo or Chase, right? Could we package someone like Chase with a Corey Ray (as someone else suggested) and then maybe throw in another high ceiling prospect like Lutz or Zack Brown? Is that too much or too little to entice the Royals?

 

Or - do we think that the potential emergence of Hiura would make a deal like this off limits for Stearns, knowing that Keston could help as soon as next year already?

 

I just think that we need to lengthen out this lineup more with guys that can make good contact with the baseball and less K's. Seems like a guy like Whit would allow us to put more consistent pressure on opposing pitchers.

 

Domingo has 3 more years of control and if he returns to his 2017 form the Royals they should be able to get a decent return for him a year from now. Same with Anderson who with a strong first half could be flipped at the deadline. The centerpiece of a deal for Merrifield would have to be a very good prospect but I wouldn't dismiss the idea of including major league talent in the deal.

[homer]

Kluber for a package of Peralta, Ray, Davies, and change?

 

Kluber will be 33 next April. That would be a risky trade for any team. I'd pass. Carrasco is gonna be 32 in March. Probably pass on him as well.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

It appears Trevor Bauer is on the block as well

 

I would think the cost wound be significantly less than what it would take to get Kluber. Might be an interesting trade target. He is entering his age 28 year, and is controllable through arbitration through the 2020 season. Wonder what it would take? Corey Ray is a good fit, as is Santana, and Taylor/Stokes to a lesser extent. The Indians OF is horrible, and has been for some time.

[KeithStone53151]

Haha jeez, DEFINITELY a buyers market for quality SP. Has this ever happened?

[sveumrules]

Bauer & Paxton were numbers 47 & 48 on the most recent FanGraphs trade value series, so probably looking at a similar package.

[KeithStone53151]

Kluber, Carrasco, Bauer, Syndergaard, Paxton, Bumgarner...list of high end SP on the block that we know of. Let me know if I'm missing anyone.

[anglotiger]

Jeff Passan

@JeffPassan

 

Sources: Charlie Morton is not expected to receive a qualifying offer from the Astros. He's going to generate big-time interest on a short-term deal -- probably two years with an option.

 

3:23 PM - 2 Nov 2018

 

Depending upon the price, this possibility intrigues me...

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

Morosi speculating that the Indians and Brewers are a good match. This actually makes a ton of sense, as the Indians OF is a train wreck, and the Brewers have guys like Santana, Broxton, Stokes, Taylor and Ray that make a lot of sense in a deal. Have to think that Kluber, Carrasco and Bauer are the main targets, but Danny Salazar would be an interesting buy-low candidate. I can't imagine Clevinger or Bieber would be anywhere close to available.

[Smichaelis9]

 

Morosi speculating that the Indians and Brewers are a good match. This actually makes a ton of sense, as the Indians OF is a train wreck, and the Brewers have guys like Santana, Broxton, Stokes, Taylor and Ray that make a lot of sense in a deal. Have to think that Kluber, Carrasco and Bauer are the main targets, but Danny Salazar would be an interesting buy-low candidate. I can't imagine Clevinger or Bieber would be anywhere close to available.

If any of those 5 outfielders you listed were able to be used as the main piece to net us any of their starters I’d be very happy. Find it interesting that JP specifically says ATL and CLE are not in active talks but doesn’t say that about us. Of course I could be reading into that far too much haha. But maybe there are at least some legs to it at the moment.

[KeithStone53151]

 

Morosi speculating that the Indians and Brewers are a good match. This actually makes a ton of sense, as the Indians OF is a train wreck, and the Brewers have guys like Santana, Broxton, Stokes, Taylor and Ray that make a lot of sense in a deal. Have to think that Kluber, Carrasco and Bauer are the main targets, but Danny Salazar would be an interesting buy-low candidate. I can't imagine Clevinger or Bieber would be anywhere close to available.

 

We were a good match last offseason as well and that never materialized. Santana is a glove-like fit for that team. I hope it does this offseason. I personally would prefer Bauer of the 3 options they seem to be dangling as I think his acquisition cost would be the lowest.

[RollieTime]

 

Morosi speculating that the Indians and Brewers are a good match. This actually makes a ton of sense, as the Indians OF is a train wreck, and the Brewers have guys like Santana, Broxton, Stokes, Taylor and Ray that make a lot of sense in a deal. Have to think that Kluber, Carrasco and Bauer are the main targets, but Danny Salazar would be an interesting buy-low candidate. I can't imagine Clevinger or Bieber would be anywhere close to available.

 

We were a good match last offseason as well and that never materialized. Santana is a glove-like fit for that team. I hope it does this offseason. I personally would prefer Bauer of the 3 options they seem to be dangling as I think his acquisition cost would be the lowest.

 

Bauer makes the most sense to me as well. Had a big breakout season last year and is just entering his prime. He will be turning 28 prior to the 2019 season. Figuring out his value could be tough as he was a solid, but not elite pitcher prior to last season.

[amt2138]

Bauer and Morton make a ton of sense to me. Both guys that have put in the work and using all the data available to them in order to maximize their talents as pitchers. Believe that would be a great mesh with our organizational philosophy.

 

Wonder what kind of deal it would take with the Indians? If you take on Kipnis' last year does that take away from the cost of players/prospects. Then you have Kipnis/Perez platoon until Hiura is ready, both of those guys can go play some outfield if necessary as well if you lose some of Santana, Broxton, Ray in the deal.

 

Not sure how well that works for the Brewers taking on salary and losing financial flexibility. Subsequent moves would have to be made with Thames/Anderson/other mid tier guys.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

Here's each of their contract status'...

 

Kluber

 

2019 - $15,200,000

2020 - $15,500,000 * Club Option

2021 - $16,000,000 * Club Option

 

Carrasco

 

2019 - $9,750,000

2020 - $9,500,000 * Club Option

 

Bauer

 

2019 - Arb $11,600,000 projected

2020 - Arb $19,000,000 projected

 

All things considered, my guess is the Brewers are most interested in Carrasco.

[MadThinker88]

Here's each of their contract status'...

 

Kluber

 

2019 - $15,200,000

2020 - $15,500,000 * Club Option

2021 - $16,000,000 * Club Option

 

Carrasco

 

2019 - $9,750,000

2020 - $9,500,000 * Club Option

 

Bauer

 

2019 - Arb $11,600,000 projected

2020 - Arb $19,000,000 projected

 

All things considered, my guess is the Brewers are most interested in Carrasco.

 

Actually, due to Cy Young finishes in 2017 & 2018, Kluber is up to $17M , $17.5M & $18M. There is also additional money owed & changes for picking up the options if he is traded.

Meanwhile Carassco is $9.75M & $10.25M due to his 2017 Cy Young finish (believe he was 3rd in voting)..

 

It would likely cost the most to get Carassco of those 3

[amt2138]

Keeping a close eye on the Danny Salazar situation today. Has been a little talk of them non-tendering him but I would guess some team is willing to risk $5 million to see if he can stay healthy. I'd love for the Brewers to take that risk

[TURBO]

Mike Fiers was non tendered, how long will it take someone to start a thread saying we should go get him?

 

X-Brewer love and all...

[pacopete4]

Mike Fiers was non tendered, how long will it take someone to start a thread saying we should go get him?

 

X-Brewer love and all...

 

I don’t get these type of condescending remarks. Fiers pitched well a season ago, has had a solid career, and will help someone’s staff. Will it be the Brewers? Meh, probably not worth a thread but there are plenty of worse options out there.

[brewmann04]

I like Fiers but it not what we need for the rotation at this point.

[MadThinker88]

Keeping a close eye on the Danny Salazar situation today. Has been a little talk of them non-tendering him but I would guess some team is willing to risk $5 million to see if he can stay healthy. I'd love for the Brewers to take that risk

 

Tribe held onto Salazar & got him signed to a deal ($4.5M) for 2019. Salazar has 1 more year of club control after 2019 before being a FA..

 

It will be interesting to see IF Salazar rebounds from the shoulder surgery he had during 2018 & if that allows him to return to the rotation or moves to the bullpen.

[LincolnDD]

Keeping a close eye on the Danny Salazar situation today. Has been a little talk of them non-tendering him but I would guess some team is willing to risk $5 million to see if he can stay healthy. I'd love for the Brewers to take that risk

 

Tribe held onto Salazar & got him signed to a deal ($4.5M) for 2019. Salazar has 1 more year of club control after 2019 before being a FA..

 

It will be interesting to see IF Salazar rebounds from the shoulder surgery he had during 2018 & if that allows him to return to the rotation or moves to the bullpen.

 

I was a little surprised to see that given that they're clearly trying to cut payroll. Feels like they sold super low on Gomes just to move his contract, which really ins't too large.

[PeaveyFury]

 

I was a little surprised to see that given that they're clearly trying to cut payroll. Feels like they sold super low on Gomes just to move his contract, which really ins't too large.

 

Signing him to a deal to avoid arby doesn't prevent them from trying to trade him if they want to.

[coolhandluke121]

Haha jeez, DEFINITELY a buyers market for quality SP. Has this ever happened?

 

It would be hilarious if the Brewers' bullpen innovation last year contributed to teams suddenly valuing starters a lot less and the Brewers took advantage.

[brewmann04]

I am not sure DS goes for pitching especially starters this season.

[OnTheBlack]

I like Fiers but it not what we need for the rotation at this point.

 

 

I feel like he's exactly what we need right now. A trusted, viable vet coming off yet another solid, yet unspectacular year who will not command a ton on the open market. ERA of 3.6 in over 170 innings pitched(I get ERA isn't the best indicator, but he was solid). I'll take him. I'd be upset if he was our lone accusation and we didn't still go after that TOR arm, but...I have no problem bringing him back...if for no other reason than he could help limit the innings Burnes or Peralta or Woodruff or any combination of the three have to pitch through August next year. Do what the Red Sox did or the Dodgers did. Put Burnes on the DL in July to give him a few weeks off, follow that up with Peralta...and you have a really reliable pitcher to handle those innings.