2018-19 Offseason Trade Candidates

[MadThinker88]

Erich Thames is not a viable trade candidate at this point:

 

2019 Contract details by year $6,000,000

2020 Contract details by year $7,500,000

The 2020 contract does include a $1 M buy out.

 

There is no market for a left handed hitting first baseman/designated hitter with a stat line of .224 .305 .491 .796.

 

There may be a market for Aguilar though. And something like Aguilar for the Triston Mckenzie from the Indian's system could possibly work. Probably less than 1 year away from the majors. A top ten pitching prospect.

 

Allow me to pick up my jaw.....

 

 

No way.. No how... Triston McKenzie is not being dealt, yet alone for Jesus Aguilar.

In terms of pipe dreams, that one for one deal is a pipe dream's pipe dream.

[MadThinker88]

Indians gave up Aguilar for nothing, they're certainly not going to trade McKenzie to get him back. But if they offered, I would even drive Aguilar to the airport myself.

 

I completely agree with 1st part written by FVBrewerFan.

 

As much as I understand why the Brewers (& their fans) want to improve their team, I am baffled why anyone would think Aguilar would be a fit in Cleveland.

 

Cleveland already has Yonder Alonso AND Edwin Encarnacion UNDER CONTRACT for 2019 and holds club contract options on both players for 2020. On top of that they have another 1B prospect (in their system) almost ready for the majors & other options. IF Cleveland traded EE or Alonso for other pieces of need, it would be to open space for Yandy Diaz or the prospect (Bobby Bradley)..

 

On a different note: Jesus is not worth any top 100 prospect by himself, let alone a top 50 pitching prospect like Triston.

 

Lets turn this around, let's say some other team had Jesus Aguilar and wanted to trade Jesus to Milwaukee for either Burnes or F Peralta (both were top 100 pitching prospects at mid season), would the Brewers or their fans make that deal?? I don't believe they would..

[pacopete4]

Well... sounds like we’re not getting Triston.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Erich Thames is not a viable trade candidate at this point:

 

2019 Contract details by year $6,000,000

2020 Contract details by year $7,500,000

The 2020 contract does include a $1 M buy out.

 

There is no market for a left handed hitting first baseman/designated hitter with a stat line of .224 .305 .491 .796.

 

There may be a market for Aguilar though. And something like Aguilar for the Triston Mckenzie from the Indian's system could possibly work. Probably less than 1 year away from the majors. A top ten pitching prospect.

 

Allow me to pick up my jaw.....

 

 

No way.. No how... Triston McKenzie is not being dealt, yet alone for Jesus Aguilar.

 

In terms of pipe dreams, that one for one deal is a pipe dream's pipe dream.

 

Fans make odd trade proposals all the time. Just because you are an uber Indians fan doesn't give you the right to be condescending about your disagreement with one. A simple "I don't think the values match up there" would do.

[Brew Crew Buster]

Yeah. The Aguilar for McKenzie trade is probably crazy. Although the Indians did just give up one of the top catching prospects in baseball for not a whole lot.

 

The larger point of the post was that Thames doesn't hold any value to other teams and if the Brewers actually want to trade a first baseman it has to be Aguilar.

[Madhawk23]

So, I have an honest question to ask: why is that power hitting 1B have so little value in today's MLB?

 

I know that an Aggie/McKenzie trade this offseason is very unlikely, but why shouldn't we expect to get a Top 50 player (and more) back for a guy that is currently hitting around .280, on pace for around 35 HR, 100+ RBI and OPS'ing over .900. Oh, and under control and cheap for another 4 years? I realize that he's not an elite defender, and you can really only stick him at 1B - but we're also talking about a guy that was an All-Star this year and has become a fixture in our lineup as the #3 hitter.

 

Again - I realize the Indians wouldn't give up much of anything to get him back when they gave him away two years ago for nothing. But, why wouldn't another team that needs a power hitting 1B be interested in Aggie?

[Madhawk23]

So, I have an honest question to ask: why is that power hitting 1B have so little value in today's MLB?

 

I know that an Aggie/McKenzie trade this offseason is very unlikely, but why shouldn't we expect to get a Top 50 player (and more) back for a guy that is currently hitting around .280, on pace for around 35 HR, 100+ RBI and OPS'ing over .900. Oh, and under control and cheap for another 4 years? I realize that he's not an elite defender, and you can really only stick him at 1B - but we're also talking about a guy that was an All-Star this year and has become a fixture in our lineup as the #3 hitter.

 

Again - I realize the Indians wouldn't give up much of anything to get him back when they gave him away two years ago for nothing. But, why wouldn't another team that needs a power hitting 1B be interested in Aggie?

[nate82]

Thames has the same value that Lind had.

 

While Thames is not going to get you a top 50 prospect he still has value. You are probably looking at prospects in the lower minors low A, rookie, or in the DSL rather than a prospect in AA or AAA.

 

Aguillar has a lot of value and I would consider trading him for someone like McKenzie. The Brewers best and probably only option to bring in an ace type pitcher would be to trade Aguillar this off season. I don't believe the Brewers would do this but it is an option worth considering.

[wallus]

Indians gave up Aguilar for nothing, they're certainly not going to trade McKenzie to get him back. But if they offered, I would even drive Aguilar to the airport myself.

 

 

 

Cleveland already has Yonder Alonso AND Edwin Encarnacion UNDER CONTRACT for 2019 and holds club contract options on both players for 2020. On top of that they have another 1B prospect (in their system) almost ready for the majors & other options. IF Cleveland traded EE or Alonso for other pieces of need, it would be to open space for Yandy Diaz or the prospect (Bobby Bradley)..

 

 

Yonder Alonso is terrible and Aguilar would be a huge upgrade over him. EE is having a down season and is at the age where he stats will likely be going down. Bobby Bradley has a .753 OPS in AAA. While I understand the idea that Cleveland would not be motivated to trade for Aguilar, their internal options are not nearly as great as you are making them out to be.

 

I'm glad the Brewers didn't operate this way with the outfield this past offseason. It would have been easy to say we have Keon Broxton and Brett Phillips!

[buckybrewer232]

The Brewers don't really have the farm system to trade for a top MLB arm like Syndergaard. Maybe you could build a deal around Burnes, Hiura, and Ray but it would take all of them and would really drain the system after all of the trades in the past year. They will be better off to just start with a rotation of Nelson, Chacin, Anderson, Davies and Burnes. Would maybe take a couple fliers on lower end FA's like they did with Miley this year.

 

What they do with the position players will all depend on what happens with Moose and Schoop. I'm guessing Moose walks and Schoop's option gets picked up. There are some interesting names on the 2nd base FA market, though, if you could get someone on a one year deal.

 

I think Thames needs to be dealt. I would trade him for any low level lottery ticket you can get or maybe even a RP. There's just no need for him and the salary savings alone would be worth it. Honestly, I would love to see them find a way to bring Moose back assuming they can trade Thames. Then you could use Shaw some at 1st base and maybe even one of Shaw/Moose could play some LF. I love having both of Moose and Shaw in the lineup against righties.

 

The free agent I would target is Yasmani Grandal. A Grandal/Pina combo at Catcher would be nice.

[Roderick]

So, I have an honest question to ask: why is that power hitting 1B have so little value in today's MLB?

 

Keeping it general. I think because of the constant influx of aging players (or DHs playing in the NL) moving from other positions to 1B, in addition to the natural 1B. Teams are usually set at that position.

 

You have to be heads and shoulders above the pack AND have an affordable contract / years of control to have excess value.

[pacopete4]

Looking at the individual stats for first basemen and there is not all that many of them that are good.

[BigDaddy1974]

I think that Aguilar could kid possibly land a top 50 guy. Maybe, maybe not. But to simply dismiss it is not being realistic. Aguilar has real value. Seriously how many 1B are out performing him this year? Maybe three or four.

 

I think Stearns could use Aguilar as a piece for a Thor or Degrom trade. He along with Burnes and Hiura could be close to getting it done. Maybe they’d want more, possibly Hader or Peralta.. not sure I’d do that. But I might.

[Jaylyn]

A lot depends on what Stearns wants to do with Moustakes. If he lets him walk, Shaw goes back to 3rd and Jesus at 1st. If DS somehow retains Moustakes, then we have a huge chip in either Shaw or Jesus. One of them as a headliner, plus Peralta, Ray and another, could get you in the ballpark of a TOR starter. Mets are going to want a ransom for either Degrom or Thor.

[Lathund]

I think that Aguilar could kid possibly land a top 50 guy. Maybe, maybe not. But to simply dismiss it is not being realistic. Aguilar has real value. Seriously how many 1B are out performing him this year? Maybe three or four.

 

I think Stearns could use Aguilar as a piece for a Thor or Degrom trade. He along with Burnes and Hiura could be close to getting it done. Maybe they’d want more, possibly Hader or Peralta.. not sure I’d do that. But I might.

 

The issue with Aguilar for a TOR starter is that there is not much overlap between teams looking to deal a starter with multiple years of team control remaining, and teams looking to trade for a 1B with a ticking service clock, even if that player does have 4 years left. One is a rebuilding/retooling move, one is a win now (and for a couple more years) move, where only the last 1-2 years of Aguilar would really give any benefit. The Mets, with their history of less than stellar decision making, might actually be one of the few overlaps.

 

I think, and hope, that Stearns won't make that type of deal though.