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Postseason 25-Man Roster Prediction


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Here's mine: I think they'll go 13/12 in favor of hitting

 

Hitters:

 

Aguilar

Arcia

Braun

Broxton (def and PR specialist)

Cain

Granderson

Kratz

Moustakis

Perez

Pina

Schoop

Shaw

Yelich

 

Pitchers:

 

Burnes

Cedeno

Chacin (SP)

Davies (SP)

Gonzalez (SP)

Hader

Jeffress

Knebel

Miley (SP)

Soria

Williams

Woodruff

 

I think Chase misses out, unless they decide to make him long man instead of Woodruff. I think Broxton beats out Thames and Santana for his pinch running and defense. Perez, entirely for his versatility, makes it I think.

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I don't see why we need Broxton (as much as I like him) given that Cain should be playing every inning. Leaving Thames off the roster would be a mistake in my opinion, he was brutal in August but he still has the ability to crush RHP like almost nobody else on the roster.

 

Perez has been horrible all September.

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I don't see why we need Broxton (as much as I like him) given that Cain should be playing every inning. Leaving Thames off the roster would be a mistake in my opinion, he was brutal in August but he still has the ability to crush RHP like almost nobody else on the roster.

 

Perez has been horrible all September.

 

Late innings, down a run, Kratz or Pina on first. Broxton pinch run time, since I can't see any other option, can you?

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The depth of this team is crazy. It is unfortunate that we need to officially leave guys off the playoff roster. Count me in for a rule change that allows only 25 guys to be used any particular day but nobody knows who those guys are until they are actually used.

 

 

Actually, it's kind of a silly 20th century notion altogether. Expand the rosters and eliminate the DH--or at least ONLY allow the DH for the starting pitcher. Cy Young caliber stud starters will still be stud starters, yet it allows for all sorts of strategic moves a la the NL game and allows more guys on the bench with special skills to meaningfully contribute to the MLB squad. The players union should like this, the owners should like this, and the fans should like this. Everybody wins.

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In the one game scenario, I dont see Thames not making it with the need for less pitchers.

 

For a one game playoff "series", you could basically whittle your rotation down to 1 guy and carry at least 3 extras, could you not?

 

So if you're starting Chacin you could leave off Gio, Miley, and Anderson, and carry extras in the pen and bench. Wild card roster shouldn't be a ton different than what we got now minus guys like Nottingham and Saladino who serve no real purpose anyway.

 

I would keep Gio, in case Chacin struggles the first two innings.

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Even setting aside his defense and speed, Keon should definitely be a lock as he is one of the few players on the team (along with Cain/Yelich/Braun/Aguilar) who can actually hit LHP.

 

Perez favors LHP as well but he's had a brutal September. Do we use spots on both Perez and Schoop?

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So the real questions to me come down:

 

Gio vs Davies vs Anderson (pick 2).

Broxton vs last bullpen spot (probably Peralta but maybe Guerra, Jennings, or Barnes) with Thames as a very outside chance.

 

I think the one starter not chosen is left off the roster instead of moving to the bullpen. So, right now I'm leaning Gio & Anderson with Broxton getting the last spot for the NLDS but go with the bigger bullpen for the NLCS because of having a stretch of 3 games in a row.

 

The Locks:

OF: Cain, Yelich, Braun, Granderson, Santana

IF: Aguilar, Shaw, Arcia, Moose, Schoop, Perez

C: Pina, Kratz

SP: Chacin, Miley

RP: Jeffress, Hader, Knebel, Soria, Burnes, Cedeno, Woodruff

 

No Chance:

Pitchers: Albers, Lyles,

Position: Nottingham, Saladino

 

Maybes:

Pitchers: Anderson, Barnes, Davies, Gonzalez, Guerra, Jennings, Williams

Position: Broxton, Thames

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In the one game scenario, I dont see Thames not making it with the need for less pitchers.

 

For a one game playoff "series", you could basically whittle your rotation down to 1 guy and carry at least 3 extras, could you not?

 

So if you're starting Chacin you could leave off Gio, Miley, and Anderson, and carry extras in the pen and bench. Wild card roster shouldn't be a ton different than what we got now minus guys like Nottingham and Saladino who serve no real purpose anyway.

 

I would keep Gio, in case Chacin struggles the first two innings.

 

Since Gio is starting today I don't see any way he is also pitching on Tuesday, so you definitely leave off any pitcher for the WC game that won't be available Tuesday. You could keep Anderson or Peralta as a backup starter for that Wild Card game.

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Updating a month later:

 

SP: Chacin, Miley, Gio

RP: JJ, Hader, Knebel, Soria, Cedeno, Burnes, Peralta, Woodruff, lefty (Jennings?)

 

C: Kratz, Pina

1B: Aguilar

Infielders: Shaw, Moustakis, Arcia, Schoop, Perez

Outfielders: Yelich, Cain, Braun, Granderson, Santana???

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I made this point in another thread but it might be more appropriate here. Their depth is amazing. You could almost divide the team in half, fill out both rosters with replacement-level players, and still have two .500 teams.

 

LF: Yelich/Braun

CF: Cain/Broxton

RF: Santana/Granderson

1B: Aguilar/Thames

2B: Schoop/Perez

SS: Arcia/Saladino

3B: Shaw/Moustakas

C: Pina/Kratz

 

Chacin

Peralta

Miley

Anderson

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Guerra

Gonzalez

Woodruff

Davies

 

 

The difficulty in that kind of depth, of course, is that the total WAR you're getting from everyone combined is going to be much less than what you would get if you could add up what each individual is capable of. There's just not enough innings for everyone to realize his individual WAR upside.

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C: Kratz, Pina

IF: Aguilar, Schoop, Arcia, Moustakas, Shaw, Perez

OF: Braun, Yelich, Cain, Granderson

SP: Chacin, Miley, Gonzalez

RP: Knebel, Jeffress, Hader, Burnes, Soria, Cedeno, Jennings, Woodruff, Guerra

 

upper Bubble: Thames, Peralta, Davies, Santana (as pinch hitter?)

lower Bubble: Broxton, Williams, Anderson, Barnes

 

So the debate for me for 25th player is Peralta as long man (in care we're behind a couple runs and don't want to burn bullpen) or for bullpen game, Davies (can he pitch out of pen?), Santana (2nd RH ph after Perez), or Thames (2nd LH ph after Granderson). I wouldn't put Broxton, Anderston, Williams (brutal 2h), or Barnes on the roster. Of course, I fully expect the Brewers to put Williams on the roster. Broxton can be added as an injury-replacement if someone gets hurt

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The difficulty in that kind of depth, of course, is that the total WAR you're getting from everyone combined is going to be much less than what you would get if you could add up what each individual is capable of. There's just not enough innings for everyone to realize his individual WAR upside.

 

That's true for each individual player, but the opposite is true for the team. Depth allows for Counsel to maximize his matchup advantages as much as possible so that rarely does a guy have to play in a situation that would likely harm his output/WAR. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. The point is not to have the highest WAR for the 25 man playoff roster-- the point is to win the game that day.

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C: Kratz, Pina

IF: Aguilar, Schoop, Arcia, Moustakas, Shaw, Perez

OF: Braun, Yelich, Cain, Granderson

SP: Chacin, Miley, Gonzalez

RP: Knebel, Jeffress, Hader, Burnes, Soria, Cedeno, Jennings, Woodruff, Guerra

 

upper Bubble: Thames, Peralta, Davies, Santana (as pinch hitter?)

lower Bubble: Broxton, Williams, Anderson, Barnes

 

So the debate for me for 25th player is Peralta as long man (in care we're behind a couple runs and don't want to burn bullpen) or for bullpen game, Davies (can he pitch out of pen?), Santana (2nd RH ph after Perez), or Thames (2nd LH ph after Granderson). I wouldn't put Broxton, Anderston, Williams (brutal 2h), or Barnes on the roster. Of course, I fully expect the Brewers to put Williams on the roster. Broxton can be added as an injury-replacement if someone gets hurt

 

Curious why you would have Thames in the upper bubble but Broxton in the lower.

 

Unfortunately, and I like Thames, but he doesn't really offer anything right now, just pinch hitting, and he's not doing that well. True it's nice to have a guy who can pop one out anytime, but Shaw, Moose, Schoop, and Santana can all do that, and two of them are going to be on the bench to start a game.

 

I would peg Broxton as more likely than not to be on the playoff roster. They seem to like him in RF late in games for his defense, and they have no one else who fits into a pinch running specialist role late in games.

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Curious why you would have Thames in the upper bubble but Broxton in the lower.

 

Because in close playoff games, Broxton won't play. He can't hit. If there's an injury to an OF, Broxton can be an injury-replacement. I'd probably keep Santana before Broxton or Thames. I had 1 spot left. I just hope it isn't Barnes or Williams

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It would be nice to keep at least 2/3 of Broxton, Santana, or Thames. I don't think Jennings makes it--particularly if we use Miley and Gonzalez as bullpen "starters." If they are only going to pitch twice through the order on days they start, there is no reason at least one of them wouldn't be available to use as a LOOGY on those days they aren't scheduled to "start."

 

This is especially the case for the NLDS where you won't have 3 games in a row. I think 11 pitchers is sufficient for that series. Almost all of those 11 guys can go multiple innings too.

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Starters (4): Chacin, Davies, Gonzalez, Miley

 

Pen (8): Jeffress, Soria, Knebel, Hader, Woodruff, Burnes, Cedeno, Guerra

 

Position players (13) Aguilar, Shaw, Arcia, Moustakas, Kratz, Pina, Braun, Cain, Yelich, Perez, Schoop, Santana, Thames

 

 

The curious case of the disappearance of Chase Anderson the last 10 days continues. His affinity for giving up the long ball is just too hard to ignore against the power he'd be facing. The recent work out of the pen of Woodruff and Guerra has been too good to ignore and pushes out Jennings. Broxton is a nice luxury to have but just misses out.

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Curious why you would have Thames in the upper bubble but Broxton in the lower.

 

Because in close playoff games, Broxton won't play. He can't hit. If there's an injury to an OF, Broxton can be an injury-replacement. I'd probably keep Santana before Broxton or Thames. I had 1 spot left. I just hope it isn't Barnes or Williams

 

I don't think it's fair to say Broxton can't hit when he went 20/20 last season, and is one of the only guy on the bench who hits LHP well. He's a borderline major league starter because of his AVG/OBP issues, but perfectly fine off the bench in my opinion. And his defense saves games.

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