2018-08-29: Brewers (Peralta) at Reds (Harvey) 6:10 PM CDT [Brewers win, 13-12 in 10 innings -- Christian Yelich hits for the CYCLE on 6-for-6 Night; Brewers overcome controversy and 4-run deficit]

[The stache]

I believe there are only three players to ever have 7 hits in a game and I am pretty sure none of them have ever hit for the cycle in that same game. Crawford needed extra innings to do it back in 2016.

 

Yelich is the third Brewer in history with 6.

 

Rennie Stennett is the only one I'm aware of doing it, at least in the modern era. Who would the other two be?

 

Brandon Crawford (2016) and Wilbert Robinson (1892)

 

You're right about Crawford. Forgot about him. That was in 14 innings, but 7 for 8 is impressive.

 

Wilbert Robinson was a little before my time.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Jesus saves!

 

 

 

 

my sanity

[TooLiveBrew]

JESÚS!!!!!!

 

SANTA MARIA!

[homer]

epic

[owbc]

That was beautiful

[MrTPlush]

Yelich is the third Brewer in history with 6.

 

Yelich is the 4th

 

Briggs (9 innings)

Kevin Reimer (13 innings)

Jean Segura (14 innings)

 

Weird, Brewers site doesn’t show that one. I remember it though.

[pacopete4]

Back to the bench Thames. Yes!!

[MrTPlush]

Y’all realize we still gotta get three outs...right? And judging by the 11 runs the other team has we average more than one an inning.

[Ennder]

 

They're hardly worthless.

 

Let me reshape the comment. Travis Shaw has not been clutch in 2018. Better?

 

He's had 75 PA's when his team was in a late & close situation, and has hit .216. He's had 172 PAs when his team has been behind, and has hit .203. I don't care what he did two years ago when he was playing in a different city. Two years ago, Ryan Braun hit .300 + with 30 HR. Is that who he is now? No, of course not. Shaw, in 2018, has regressed. When we've needed him to step up, statistical analysis says he's failed to do so this season.

 

Sure that is better, but I would say that the sample of Shaw in 2018 isn't meaningful. What Shaw has done in a super small subset of PA this season just has no real meaning. He easily could have hit the ball extremely hard overall and it was just at other players and turned into outs. He could have made super weak contact and it happened to find holes. Trying to judge a player on anything over such a small sample just has no real meaning in the big picture of baseball.

[mtrebs]

Anyone feel comfortable? Gennett will likely bat this inning.

[homer]

Y’all realize we still gotta get three outs...right?

 

No

[brooks_quichenick]

JESÚS!!!

[pacopete4]

 

In 2018, per baseball-reference.com's "clutch stats", Travis Shaw is hitting .216 when the Brewers are behind. In "late and close" situations, he's hitting .203. Since it's late and close, and we're behind, both metrics apply, and I wouldn't say either of those would support your assessment that he's "clutch".

 

1 season clutch stats are worthless because the sample is too small. For his career Shaw has a 134 tOPS+ in high leverage situations. He has been about as clutch as a player can be. Even that is only 387 PA though so might not be meaningful, but his actual stats in those situations do not support not being clutch.

 

They're hardly worthless.

 

Let me reshape the comment. Travis Shaw has not been clutch in 2018. Better?

 

He's had 75 PA's when his team was in a late & close situation, and has hit .216. He's had 172 PAs when his team has been behind, and has hit .203. I don't care what he did two years ago when he was playing in a different city. Two years ago, Ryan Braun hit .300 + with 30 HR. Is that who he is now? No, of course not. Shaw, in 2018, has regressed. When we've needed him to step up, statistical analysis says he's failed to do so this season.

 

Don’t let those 128 PA’s of over .600 slugging with the game tied slap you in the face while trying to pull certain stats to prove your point (in which you’re wrong).

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

ugh...it's like you're standing on the tracks and a train is slowly bearing down on you, but you stand there anyway hoping that just this one time it derails and on the tracks is the safest place to be

 

...that's my interpretation on watching this game as a fan hoping they get another AB in the top o' the 10th with the 99% expectation they will find a way to lose instead.

 

It seems like Freddy Peralta pitched yesterday.

 

That’s what happens when you pull a pitcher too soon. I’d already be tucked into bed after a Brewer win.

 

That is overly optimistic, even for you.

 

Peralta was getting smacked around pretty bad, and was pulled in what had the makings of a blow-up inning. Granted, it isn't like the relievers were much better, but how good is it for Peralta's development to leave him in to give up 10 in six innings?

[homer]

Guys, stop.

[buckybrewer232]

What a roller coaster! Please tack on another run or two...

[topper09er]

 

In 2018, per baseball-reference.com's "clutch stats", Travis Shaw is hitting .216 when the Brewers are behind. In "late and close" situations, he's hitting .203. Since it's late and close, and we're behind, both metrics apply, and I wouldn't say either of those would support your assessment that he's "clutch".

 

1 season clutch stats are worthless because the sample is too small. For his career Shaw has a 134 tOPS+ in high leverage situations. He has been about as clutch as a player can be. Even that is only 387 PA though so might not be meaningful, but his actual stats in those situations do not support not being clutch.

 

They're hardly worthless.

 

Let me reshape the comment. Travis Shaw has not been clutch in 2018. Better?

 

He's had 75 PA's when his team was in a late & close situation, and has hit .216. He's had 172 PAs when his team has been behind, and has hit .203. I don't care what he did two years ago when he was playing in a different city. Two years ago, Ryan Braun hit .300 + with 30 HR. Is that who he is now? No, of course not. Shaw, in 2018, has regressed. When we've needed him to step up, statistical analysis says he's failed to do so this season.

 

The point of the small sample means that you can't read too much into the numbers. So yes you can say he has objectively been poor in these situations this season, but you cannot use those numbers to conclude that he has regressed.

[homer]

20 hits for Brewers

[sveumrules]

He's had 75 PA's when his team was in a late & close situation, and has hit .216. He's had 172 PAs when his team has been behind, and has hit .203.

 

BRef splits have a feature called sOPS+ which compares the batters line to a baseline of all batters in that same split. For his 75 late & close PAs this year Shaw has an sOPS+ of 112, so he has been above average in those situations despite his .216 batting average.

[TooLiveBrew]

Williams jumped at the wall like he thought he had a shot at catching that bomb from Aguilar

[brewmann04]

wow nice to get HR number 30

[MrTPlush]

Speaking of clutch stats maybe you guys should talk about Aguilars....less arguing!

[homer]

Brewers need 6 or 7 insurance runs here.

[The stache]

 

Oh man. Using batting average as your only assessment tool. Try scrolling a bit to the right to see those OPS numbers. And then check out those career numbers to support it even further.

 

They're not my only assessment tool. Clutch hitting starts with hitting safely in high pressure situations. You can look beyond that one metric all you want. In situations where his team was behind, Shaw failed to hit safely in 8 out of 10 at bats. That's terrible.

[pacopete4]

 

Oh man. Using batting average as your only assessment tool. Try scrolling a bit to the right to see those OPS numbers. And then check out those career numbers to support it even further.

 

They're not my only assessment tool. Clutch hitting starts with hitting safely in high pressure situations. You can look beyond that one metric all you want. In situations where his team was behind, Shaw failed to hit safely in 8 out of 10 at bats. That's terrible.

 

And when it’s tied, or a RISP w/ two outs? Those aren’t clutch situations? You literally picked out two stats of the entire bunch to make a point. It’s just such a crappy way to make a point. But I’m done arguing. Im sure I’ll get some sort of mod after me even though this was a flat out ridiculous take.

 

 

Edit: and there it is....