September callups

[And That]

If they did this, would any theoretical postseason time count towards service time or does it stop counting after game 162.

Service time is not counted after the last day of the regular season (the regular season also includes any tie-breaking games). The regular season is now usually about 185 days long (186 this year), from Opening Day to the last day. Players can accrue up to 172 days of service time during the season; 172 days of service time is considered a full season.

[And That]

September call ups are only counted as 1 day of service time regardless how many days they are in the roster in September.

This is not accurate. Service time is service time.

[Boomer5]

Definitely a 3rd catcher and whoever is our fastest runner because who doesn’t love an elite pinch runner in a tie game?

[Outlander]

Yeah service time is service time, it doesn't matter when in the regular season it is. September time does not count toward rookie eligibility however. If for example Corbin Burnes didn't accumulate 45 days by August 31 then he would still be considered a rookie next year even if he passed the 45 day mark in September.

[xisxisxis]

If they did this, would any theoretical postseason time count towards service time or does it stop counting after game 162.

Service time is not counted after the last day of the regular season (the regular season also includes any tie-breaking games). The regular season is now usually about 185 days long (186 this year), from Opening Day to the last day. Players can accrue up to 172 days of service time during the season; 172 days of service time is considered a full season.

I believe to be hired by MLB you have to agree that 185 = 172.... which would explain many of the replay challenge decisions....

[LouisEly]

I know some teams don't like too many guys in the dugout, but I'd use every resource that was available to me.

 

Broxton, Santana, Orf, Wilkerson, Houser, Asher, Saladino, Santana, Woodruff, Nottingham - probably missed someone.

 

Without a question I'd add a third catcher. It's foolish not to. So if Nottingham isn't healthy, I'd move him to the 60-day DL and bring up Bandy or Bethancourt.

 

They should also look at adding guys to the 40-man roster if a spot can be made -- guys that they intend to add this off season - and can potentially help them this year. Ramirez is a guy that comes to mind - a lefty specialist.

 

To me, anyone that can help should be added.

Agreed - it's unforgivable to run out of pitchers or pinch hitters in a playoff chase when you can expand rosters.

 

I was hoping they'd use the two open roster spots for QTC and Ramirez because you could have a lot of lefty-righty matchup switches. But they chose to go with Lyles and Hernandez.

 

RE: Hernandez - I know the Brewers are infatuated with spin rate, but he/Asher/Orf are the ones most likely to lose their spot to a 3rd catcher, elite pinch-runner, and another bullpen lefty.

[MNBrew]

Yeah service time is service time, it doesn't matter when in the regular season it is. September time does not count toward rookie eligibility however. If for example Corbin Burnes didn't accumulate 45 days by August 31 then he would still be considered a rookie next year even if he passed the 45 day mark in September.

I'd never heard of the thing about September service time not counting. And then I looked it up and, sure enough, it's right:

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/about_mlb/rules_regulations.jsp

 

It's not just the 45 days thing because that just pertains to service time. There's an "OR" in that definition, with the other part being about not exceeding 130 ABs or pitching 50 innings in the majors (that's the stuff I did know about already). Some players exceed the minimums (more likely to be hitters than pitchers, I'd guess) without breaking the service time threshold, which makes service time consideration (for rookie status) moot because they've played enough to lose rookie status.

[MNBrew]

I know some teams don't like too many guys in the dugout, but I'd use every resource that was available to me.

 

Broxton, Santana, Orf, Wilkerson, Houser, Asher, Saladino, Santana, Woodruff, Nottingham - probably missed someone.

 

Without a question I'd add a third catcher. It's foolish not to. So if Nottingham isn't healthy, I'd move him to the 60-day DL and bring up Bandy or Bethancourt.

 

They should also look at adding guys to the 40-man roster if a spot can be made -- guys that they intend to add this off season - and can potentially help them this year. Ramirez is a guy that comes to mind - a lefty specialist.

 

To me, anyone that can help should be added.

Agreed - it's unforgivable to run out of pitchers or pinch hitters in a playoff chase when you can expand rosters.

 

I was hoping they'd use the two open roster spots for QTC and Ramirez because you could have a lot of lefty-righty matchup switches. But they chose to go with Lyles and Hernandez.

 

RE: Hernandez - I know the Brewers are infatuated with spin rate, but he/Asher/Orf are the ones most likely to lose their spot to a 3rd catcher, elite pinch-runner, and another bullpen lefty.

Hernandez could be a decent future piece but could just as well end up like some of the easy-come/easy-go winter waiver claims -- Stearns just doing his thing to figure out ways to add depth.

 

Whether it's Ramirez, Berry, QTC, Bandy/Bethancourt, etc., any non-roster guy added means an opening on the 40-man must be created. Ramirez & QTC intrigue me more than the others who seem more like novelties (unless a C is necessary because Nottingham's not available and 60-day-DL-bound) -- and even adding more pitchers in September I'd think would come from the talent currently on the 40-man -- some of whom have been decent in their limited MLB action -- rather than at the expense of someone who seems to rank "ahead" of them (though why Wilkinson keeps getting protected is puzzling to me, because regardless of his AAA work, he's done absolutely nothing productive in any of his limited shots on the MLB roster this season).

[JohnBriggs12]

Bethancourt has definitely earned a spot. He leads the Skysox in HR by a fairly wide margin. Defensively, he's caught 43% of base stealers. Having a 3rd catcher allows Counsell to double switch the position.

[long ball]

Likely activated from DL: Davies, Albers, Williams

 

September calls ups: Woodruff seems like a lock, Wilkerson, Asher, and Houser all seem somewhat likely.

 

Catcher- whether it's Nottingham or they need to make a roster move to get another catcher on the 40-man, I have to assume they'll roll with 3 catchers in September.

 

Saladino, Broxton, and Santana (these guys all feel like a lock)

 

That would put the active roster at 36 guys. Maybe only 1-2 of those pitchers get the call up if Davies, Albers, and Williams all return. Woodruff

[bill hAll Star]

Bethancourt has definitely earned a spot. He leads the Skysox in HR by a fairly wide margin. Defensively, he's caught 43% of base stealers. Having a 3rd catcher allows Counsell to double switch the position.

 

Games played for Sky Sox:

Orf - 83

Bethancourt - 81

Blanco - 81

Broxton - 78

Moore - 73

Phillips - 71

Opitz - 61

Nottingham - 49

Not worth noting below there.

 

 

So he leads the HR chase in Colorado Springs by a wide margin because the majority of guys that have played anywhere near as many games as him are not home run hitters.

[FVBrewerFan]

Want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. How about adding Corey Ray to the 40 man and bringing him up in September? Could be used a PR, but more importantly a PH off the bench. Looking for raw power late in a game? That situation where you need one big blast? Corey Ray gives you that.

 

Yea, I know, more likely to K than hit a bomb. But there will be situations where it wouldn't hurt to give it a try. When they really need a run or three in the 9th maybe I take my chances with Ray vs Kratz, Saladino, or whoever else is left on the bench by then.

[AKCheesehead]

Don’t know that I’d agree on adding Ray, but I’m still awarding the +1 by merit of the Rowdy Roddy Piper reference.

[Outlander]

40 man roster management probably prevents Ray from getting called up this year. He is 24 though so his time is probably coming early-mid 2019.

[Boomer5]

Don’t know that I’d agree on adding Ray, but I’m still awarding the +1 by merit of the Rowdy Roddy Piper reference.

 

+2. Ray can’t really make contact or field very well but other than that I like him.

 

Love getting nuts. Why not?

[djoctagone]

the sky sox season doesn't end until 3 september. currently in second place, 1.0 back, so there's potential for a postseason run for them.

still 1.0 back in second place, and they have eight games remaining against the team they're chasing (oklahoma city), including four to close out the season.

[adambr2]

In my opinion the Colorado Springs playoffs should be basically a zero factor in making decisions on September callups.

 

As a team that missed the playoffs by 1 game last season I can't fathom even leaving open the possibility of running out of pitchers in a 14 inning game the first week of September or having to have Chacin pinch hit because Barnes and Santana are down in Colorado Springs helping the Sky Sox with their playoff run.

[DHonks]

I really want to see Keston come up, but the Brewers shouldn’t and probably won’t give up that year of control. I’d love to see it though...

 

Calling someone up for a month doesn't give up a year of control. He would still need 6 full seasons to reach free agency. If you're talking about options, is that really a concern? Braun, Fielder, Weeks, etc may have used 1 option at most.

[jerichoholicninja]

In my opinion the Colorado Springs playoffs should be basically a zero factor in making decisions on September callups.

 

As a team that missed the playoffs by 1 game last season I can't fathom even leaving open the possibility of running out of pitchers in a 14 inning game the first week of September or having to have Chacin pinch hit because Barnes and Santana are down in Colorado Springs helping the Sky Sox with their playoff run.

 

I seem to remember last year they called up everyone from CS even though they were in the playoffs. The Sky Sox playoff roster was pretty bad with whatever what left over from the other levels that didn't make the playoffs.

[adambr2]

I really want to see Keston come up, but the Brewers shouldn’t and probably won’t give up that year of control. I’d love to see it though...

 

Calling someone up for a month doesn't give up a year of control. He would still need 6 full seasons to reach free agency. If you're talking about options, is that really a concern? Braun, Fielder, Weeks, etc may have used 1 option at most.

 

No, that's all true, but it's 1 month longer you have to wait to bring him up next year.

 

If the plan is for Keston to be our opening day 2B next year, you may as well bring him up now if you can afford the spot on the 40. If it's not, better to wait til next year.

[brewmann04]

we are leaving Colorado anyway so it all hands on deck

[djoctagone]

postseason aside, an organization can't raid all of its players right away (the minor league regular season ends 3 september).

 

the biloxi shuckers are in the playoffs, having won their division in the first half, so they're committed to playing games through at least 7 september, so it's not like they can come in as replacements for colorado springs.

[LouisEly]

Things have gotten interesting with the additions of Lyles, Hernandez, and Thompson. 40-man is now full, and Nottingham isn't healthy yet.

 

I think Broxton, Santana, Knebel, Davies, Woodruff, Barnes, and Bandy get the call, with Saladino and QTC possibilities. Orf & Hernandez get DFA'd to make room for Bandy and QTC.

 

Give the nod to Bandy over Bethancourt simply due to having more familiarity with the staff.

 

They'll backfill AAA and AA with promotions or street free agents. Likely why Franklin is going on "rehab" appearances - they need him at AAA for the playoffs. Guys like Cooper Hummel, Ryan Aguilar, Nathan Kirby, Luke Barker, and Daniel Brown will get promoted to AA, possibly Eddie Silva, Tristen Lutz, Clayton Andrews.

[JohnBriggs12]

Nobody mentions Aaron Brooks who arguably has been the best performer on the CS staff.

[pacopete4]

Nobody mentions Aaron Brooks who arguably has been the best performer on the CS staff.

 

Not on 40 man roster. Not saying they can’t move someone off but that’s probably why he’s not being mentioned.