Counsell - Manager of the Year?

[Samurai Bucky]

I feel like I just had my head on the bat and spun around. WHEEEEEE!!!!!!!

 

So, if Counsell ends up winning the NL Central and has the best record in the NL, does he get Manager of the Year? I would think so since he is going to have to be very good with Legos!!!!!

[Samurai Bucky]

Bump?

[markedman5]

He is deserving but the guy from Atlanta is going to win I think.

[jerichoholicninja]

He is deserving but the guy from Atlanta is going to win I think.

 

Maybe, but I don't why. That whole NL East collapsed or wasn't trying. Counsell had to beat 2 other teams and a third that had our number all year.

[wallus]

"Nope"- The Game Thread every game of the year.

[pacopete4]

If Counsell doesn’t win it’s a shame.

[nate82]

If Counsell doesn’t win it’s a shame.

 

No, the Braves manager also deserves to win. I don't see a problem with either the Braves manager or Counsell winning it both are deserving.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

If Counsell doesn’t win it’s a shame.

 

Watching Maddon blow through relievers like tic-tacs this afternoon really puts the job Counsell did this year in perspective. He pushed so many of the right buttons, and his acumen helped a team that I think most anyone would agree is talented, but not the most talented team in the NL, to 96 wins, the best record in the NL, and a Central Division Championship. He is a very smart baseball man that showed a great understanding of both analytics and going with his gut this year, and was very successful. If he doesn't win, it wouldn't only be a shame, it would arguably be a mockery.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Here's a link to Uecker's call of the final out!

 

https://bleacherreport.com/post/milwaukee-brewers/c64c1e31-dda9-44fa-bb3b-80c40d6e4f06

[SRB]

We bizarrely don't get credit for being a "surprise" team, even though we were supposed to still be in a rebuild and our pitching staff is anchored by Jhoulys Chacin. Lots of people were putting us fourth in the NL Central before the start of the season.

[FVBrewerFan]

Stupid Counsel would be manager of the year if he wasn't so stupid.

 

Thanks,

 

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[tigerbrew]

For what the modest payroll Brewers have accomplished this season, CC definitely deserves to be manager of the year.

[coolhandluke121]

Counsell's patience and willingness to stick to the right strategy where others might have deviated on short-term impulse set him apart. He was already good last year and improved this year. Calling out certain mistakes - many of which were just guessing wrong, which all managers are going to do 100's of times a year - was kind of petulant all year. I think he deserves it.

 

Also, I'm so sick of every manager/coach of the year pick being about "exceeding expectations". That's so dumb. Uh, maybe they exceeded expectations because the expectations were wrong and it was the players who exceeded them, not the manager or coach? But no, it can't possibly be that we were wrong about how good this team is, so the manager/coach must have flipped the genius switch and made them win lots more games! To automatically give the manager/coach credit without being able to cite lots of obvious, tangible ways he made the team better (like Counsell's use of platoons and the bullpen, navigating logjams, giving guys a fair amount of time but not too long to break out of a slump before benching them, and playing guys out of position) is as bad as giving pitchers the Cy Young for W-L record.

[Invader3K]

We bizarrely don't get credit for being a "surprise" team, even though we were supposed to still be in a rebuild and our pitching staff is anchored by Jhoulys Chacin. Lots of people were putting us fourth in the NL Central before the start of the season.

 

I fully agree. No one had us pegged to make the playoffs at the start of the year, yet alone finish with the best record in the National League. Counsell should be Manager of the Year.

[MrTPlush]

Craig Counsell should and will likely win it after the last week and the improbable September in general. Going into Chicago, Game 163, Quintana, manage a 2 hit one run game, and win the division.

 

I just don’t know how you don’t give it to him. We weren’t a postseason lock at the start of the season and we ended up on the top of the NL...with an unforgettable finish.

[jerichoholicninja]

If Counsell doesn’t win it’s a shame.

 

Watching Maddon blow through relievers like tic-tacs this afternoon really puts the job Counsell did this year in perspective. He pushed so many of the right buttons, and his acumen helped a team that I think most anyone would agree is talented, but not the most talented team in the NL, to 96 wins, the best record in the NL, and a Central Division Championship. He is a very smart baseball man that showed a great understanding of both analytics and going with his gut this year, and was very successful. If he doesn't win, it wouldn't only be a shame, it would arguably be a mockery.

 

A travesty?

A sham?

A mockery?

 

A travi-sham-ockery?

[hurricanecrush]

Stupid Counsel would be manager of the year if he wasn't so stupid.

 

Thanks,

 

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This would be really funny if it wasn’t true. Well, it’s still pretty funny

[sveumrules]

We ended the regular season 28-10 to take the NL Central crown & finish with the most wins in the entire National League.

 

How Much Credit Does Counsell Deserve?

[B-Train]

We ended the regular season 28-10 to take the NL Central crown & finish with the most wins in the entire National League.

 

How Much Credit Does Counsell Deserve?

 

One that weighs about 12 pounds and has an engraving that begins with the letters NL.

[brewmann04]

It be a shame if both Cousell and Yelich don't win their awards

[fondybrewfan]

The Braves manager has obviously done a great job but keep in mind the Braves played in the worse division in the NL and finished with the worst record of the playoff teams. The Brewers played in the toughest division in baseball and finished with the best record in the NL.

 

You can make the case that the Braves exceeded expectations moreso than the Brewers but IMO neither team was picked to do much of anything going into the year and the Braves benefitted from the DC disaster.

[Pugger]

The Braves manager has obviously done a great job but keep in mind the Braves played in the worse division in the NL and finished with the worst record of the playoff teams. The Brewers played in the toughest division in baseball and finished with the best record in the NL.

 

You can make the case that the Braves exceeded expectations moreso than the Brewers but IMO neither team was picked to do much of anything going into the year and the Braves benefitted from the DC disaster.

 

I would hope those who vote for this award remember this.

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

The Braves manager has obviously done a great job but keep in mind the Braves played in the worse division in the NL and finished with the worst record of the playoff teams. The Brewers played in the toughest division in baseball and finished with the best record in the NL.

 

You can make the case that the Braves exceeded expectations moreso than the Brewers but IMO neither team was picked to do much of anything going into the year and the Braves benefitted from the DC disaster.

 

I would hope those who vote for this award remember this.

 

I think CC should win it, but actually the best division in baseball was the AL West

 

Wins by Division

AL West 436

NL Central 428

AL East 418

NL West 404

NL East 392

AL Central 353

 

AL- 1207 Wins NL- 1224 Wins

 

If they really want to determine which league gets homefield advantage for the playoffs (other than best overall record), they could give it to the league with most interleague wins (NL this year)

[long ball]

From the outside, the job Counsell has done is nothing short of amazing.

 

Every guy outside of probably Cain, Yelich, and Chacin has had to sacrifice personal success for team success. Obviously winning helps, but to have guys like Broxton, Santana, Arcia, Knebel, etc struggle mightily and even get demoted and then come back to play huge roles in September is crazy.

 

Shaw, Moustakas, Thames, Schoop, Pina, and Braun all saw diminished roles this season for the good of the team.

 

Jeffress, Hader, and Soria would be closers on many teams, but Knebel was the established closer for much of the season.

 

Woodruff and Burnes taking on bullpen roles.

 

The constant shuffling of guys from the minors to the majors. That directly affects player's finances, but time after time they had guys like Broxton, Lopez, Houser, Woodruff, etc come up and play important roles.

 

Credit to Stearns and his staff for putting together a very deep roster and drafting a strategy to maximize the talent and payroll. Huge kudos to Counsell for getting the team to buy in and executing again and again.

 

Part of the reason the Brewers shined so brightly in September is because their roster is so deep and the team stayed engaged. Counsell near flawlessly deployed the right player in the right situation. I can't imagine that's easy to do when you're picking from 35ish capable players.

 

So beyond the win totals, the payroll, the division champs, etc. I'm proud of Counsell for leading this group of players and keeping everyone bought in.

[dlk9s]

We ended the regular season 28-10 to take the NL Central crown & finish with the most wins in the entire National League.

 

How Much Credit Does Counsell Deserve?

 

One that weighs about 12 pounds and has an engraving that begins with the letters NL.

 

Nap Lajoie's bowling ball?