2018 All Star Game (07-17-18): AL (Sale) at NL (Scherzer) 6:30 PM CDT [NL loses, 8-6 in 10 innings -- Josh Hader apologizes following game for old inflammatory tweets]

[pacopete4]

A 16-17 year old high school kid tweeted some dumb stuff.... shocking. One was a Will Ferrell quote from Semi Pro.... people need to get a life. Really? Go back 6-7 in someone’s Twitter to dig stuff up when they were young adolescent?

 

Tweeting “I hate gay people” or “kkk” or “white power” along with quite a bit of other stuff is not just dumb stuff. Pretty sad to see really.

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Here is some more from Hader...

 

LINK: Josh Hader said he was deeply sorry. “I’m ready for any consequences.” He said he was “young, immature and stupid.”

 

 

LINK: Josh Hader: “As a child I was immature. I said some things that are inexcusable.” He said they do not reflect is current beliefs. “There’s no excuse.”

 

 

LINK: Josh Hader: “I was 17 years old .. I obviously said some things that were inexcusable ... I’m deeply sorry.”

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[stoutdude04]

It surely is a bad look...I have seen and worked with many 17 and 18 year old kids who say and act stupid and have grown up to be outstanding members of society.

 

I'm always just shocked that those tweets even still exist. How did his agent...the brewers...his family have no idea he tweeted those things?

[wildcat83]

I was young and dumb once too, but I never typed things like that. He may have set a record for number of demographic groups offended in one night. Pretty shocking insight into the mind of Mr Hader. At 16/17 years old, you know exactly what your typing.

 

Possibly the most shocking part of this for me is in today’s society, how do the Brewers not have an employee assigned to check, monitor, and clear any players social media accounts????

[Jenkins5]

A 16-17 year old high school kid tweeted some dumb stuff.... shocking. One was a Will Ferrell quote from Semi Pro.... people need to get a life. Really? Go back 6-7 in someone’s Twitter to dig stuff up when they were young adolescent?

 

Tweeting “I hate gay people” or “kkk” or “white power” along with quite a bit of other stuff is not just dumb stuff. Pretty sad to see really.

 

I only saw two of the tweets that showed up on my feed, one was a movie quote and then one really dumb & bad one. I’ll have to go check out the rest.

[rondoman]

It surely is a bad look...I have seen and worked with many 17 and 18 year old kids who say and act stupid and have grown up to be outstanding members of society.

 

I'm always just shocked that those tweets even still exist. How did his agent...the brewers...his family have no idea he tweeted those things?

 

Saying stupid things and doing stupid things is one thing.

 

This is beyond that. This is straight up bigotry and hate.

 

Sexist. Racist. Homophobic.

 

So disappointed right now and this will be with him for the rest of his career.

[stoutdude04]

It surely is a bad look...I have seen and worked with many 17 and 18 year old kids who say and act stupid and have grown up to be outstanding members of society.

 

I'm always just shocked that those tweets even still exist. How did his agent...the brewers...his family have no idea he tweeted those things?

 

Saying stupid things and doing stupid things is one thing.

 

This is beyond that. This is straight up bigotry and hate.

 

Sexist. Racist. Homophobic.

 

So disappointed right now and this will be with him for the rest of his career.

 

I'd consider the things he posted on Twitter as saying and doing stupid things. I do agree it is quite the bad look. One can only hope what he said after the game is truly how he is now. He is probably going to have to win some people over.

[Fear The Chorizo]

It surely is a bad look...I have seen and worked with many 17 and 18 year old kids who say and act stupid and have grown up to be outstanding members of society.

 

I'm always just shocked that those tweets even still exist. How did his agent...the brewers...his family have no idea he tweeted those things?

 

I get the sentiment that, as a 17-18 yr old, Hader wrote stupid things on what at the time was very much an emerging social media platform - Twitter was in its infancy at that time and I guarantee a teenage kid had no clue that those posts were going to come back and haunt him while writing them. Still inexcusable and disturbing for Hader (or anyone) to post such intolerant statements - in the end it's on him to deal with the repercussions for his actions, as he chose to spew that garbage.

 

However, what's almost as bad (and stupid) as the actual posts is the fact that they were still publicly available on his account until a couple hours ago - after Twitter has blown up and all the stories about celebs/people getting burned for stuff they posted, how does Hader/his agent/Brewer PR people not address it? It's not like he wasn't active on Twitter and this was just dredged up from an account he had long since stopped using and thought no longer existed...

 

IMO it also stinks and shows where our culture is in this day and age that these tweets got pulled up by someone who was sitting at their computer doing keyword searches for racist/sexist comments on player twitter accounts while the AS game was going on - but hey, to each their own.

[DocLuna7]

 

Possibly the most shocking part of this for me is in today’s society, how do the Brewers not have an employee assigned to check, monitor, and clear any players social media accounts????

 

I would have to assume that any employer who forcibly “checks, monitors, and clears” their employees social media is in violation of a ton of privacy laws and would face some pretty serious First Amendment challenges in court. That being said he obviously should have never posted this/voluntarily erased these himself.

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Here is a 2-minute Video Link of Hader discussing after the game.

[AdvantageSchneider]

 

Possibly the most shocking part of this for me is in today’s society, how do the Brewers not have an employee assigned to check, monitor, and clear any players social media accounts????

 

I would have to assume that any employer who forcibly “checks, monitors, and clears” their employees social media is in violation of a ton of privacy laws and would face some pretty serious First Amendment challenges in court. That being said he obviously should have never posted this/voluntarily erased these himself.

 

My goodness do they not teach civics in high school anymore? First amendment has to do with government censorship of speech. It has nothing to do with conduct between private individuals and companies. You say something stupid on social media your employer can most certainly fire you for it(unless on the off chance you work for the government, then it's a little more of an issue).

[brooks_quichenick]

I am beyond disappointed with Hader right now. Just completely unacceptable, vile stuff. Not entirely surprised by it either. Ugh

[KeithStone53151]

Obviously these comments aren't something you'd like to see, but to damn a young player for things he said at age 17 is a bit surprising. I'm in my early 30s and I remember how kids were and the things kids said and did. Especially immature teenagers, can say and do things without truly understanding what they mean or the implications of their actions. I imagine it's only gotten worse with social media. With how much he's grown from age 17 until now and the relationships he has with the Brewers players, I believe him when he says it doesn't reflect his beliefs now. I think we'll learn an awful lot by the type of support Josh receives from the players and especially veterans/team leaders like Jeffress, Cain, Thames, Braun, etc.

 

For me, above all else, I hope it doesn't affect his pitching down the stretch.

[AdvantageSchneider]

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/downloads/mlb_social_media_policy.pdf

 

I wonder if he will be suspended for this. Pablo Sandoval was suspended for one game a few years ago with the Red Sox for being on Social Media during a game, which is a no-no. Interesting that this policy was put in place in 2012 while Hader's tweets were made back in 2011. Amateur and professional lawyers and loophole finders make your case.

[fgs77]

Young? What's his excuse for this one?

 

https://twitter.com/BeanBooper/status/1019428543934140416

 

Also tweeting KKK and "I hate gay people" is not your typical youthful stupidity.

[Bob Skube Snacks]

Horrifying from Hader. No excuses for it. So disappointed and angry right now.

 

To me? This is worse than Braun’s controversy. Racism is so much worse than HGH abuse in the grand scheme of things.

 

I don’t care if he was 17 or quoting lyrics or whatever. I knew at 17 never to *say* those things much less write them out.

 

I hate the black eye it brings to the franchise, even though it’s not their fault. The embarassment for the Brewers and the city, the perception of this team, the potential performance of the team? This crap storm will do harm. It just pisses me off to no end.

[fgs77]

Obviously these comments aren't something you'd like to see, but to damn a young player for things he said at age 17 is a bit surprising. I'm in my early 30s and I remember how kids were and the things kids said and did. Especially immature teenagers, can say and do things without truly understanding what they mean or the implications of their actions. I imagine it's only gotten worse with social media. With how much he's grown from age 17 until now and the relationships he has with the Brewers players, I believe him when he says it doesn't reflect his beliefs now. I think we'll learn an awful lot by the type of support Josh receives from the players and especially veterans/team leaders like Jeffress, Cain, Thames, Braun, etc.

 

For me, above all else, I hope it doesn't affect his pitching down the stretch.

 

Above all else? Good to know that you value baseball games more than human decency.

 

And of course his teammates will defend him and say that's not who he is, that's how it always works.

[brooks_quichenick]

DUmb kid? What's his excuse for this one?

 

https://twitter.com/BeanBooper/status/1019428543934140416

 

WOW

 

2 YEARS AGO. If that isn't a doctored screenshot, man...

 

Unacceptable. Just trash. Apologies are great and all, but they don't mean much when you spew this kind of bile for years. I don't want to root for this guy anymore.

[Fear The Chorizo]

I'm in my early 30s and I remember how kids were and the things kids said and did. Especially immature teenagers, can say and do things without truly understanding what they mean or the implications of their actions. I imagine it's only gotten worse with social media.

 

I agree with this, but it doesn't take away the fact that Hader has had 6-7 years of maturity since posting these statements to gather enough cultural understanding and self awareness to delete those posts if "that's not who he is" as a person before the public outcry forces him to address it. I'm actually shocked this hasn't surfaced sooner with the pub Hader has gotten due to his on-field performance over the past 1.5 seasons.

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DUmb kid? What's his excuse for this one?

 

https://twitter.com/BeanBooper/status/1019428543934140416

 

WOW

 

2 YEARS AGO. If that isn't a doctored screenshot, man...

 

Unacceptable. Just trash. Apologies are great and all, but they don't mean much when you spew this kind of bile for years. I don't want to root for this guy anymore.

Someone in the replies claimed that one was fake. I have no idea, but it seems like a Tweet that while he was already a member of the Brewers organization would have gotten noticed. Every single other tweet revealed tonight is from either 2011 or 2012.

 

Also, why would that topic have been tweeted about in January of 2016? Am I missing something?

[Bob Skube Snacks]

 

Possibly the most shocking part of this for me is in today’s society, how do the Brewers not have an employee assigned to check, monitor, and clear any players social media accounts????

 

I would have to assume that any employer who forcibly “checks, monitors, and clears” their employees social media is in violation of a ton of privacy laws and would face some pretty serious First Amendment challenges in court. That being said he obviously should have never posted this/voluntarily erased these himself.

 

It’s amazing how many people think this is true. Your social media account is grounds for firing, libel, you name it.

[brooks_quichenick]

DUmb kid? What's his excuse for this one?

 

https://twitter.com/BeanBooper/status/1019428543934140416

 

WOW

 

2 YEARS AGO. If that isn't a doctored screenshot, man...

 

Unacceptable. Just trash. Apologies are great and all, but they don't mean much when you spew this kind of bile for years. I don't want to root for this guy anymore.

 

Ok I believe the image in that tweet has been determined to be fake.

[stoutdude04]

Young? What's his excuse for this one?

 

https://twitter.com/BeanBooper/status/1019428543934140416

 

Also tweeting KKK and "I hate gay people" is not your typical youthful stupidity.

 

Is that tweet real? If So, that's really bad. 2 years ago...yikes.

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Here is the Journal Sentinel Article...

 

Inflammatory old tweets surface from Josh Hader’s Twitter account; pitcher apologizes after All-Star Game