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Where is Domingo's Power?

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JohnBriggs12 Biloxi Shuckers

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Davis is on pace for 45-50 HR and 130 RBI. I get he can only play one position but that's the case for Aguilar too and where would the Brewers be without him? I could live with the lack of versatility and having a runner take an occasional base on my LF with that kind of production. Santana's in the minor leagues as are Nottingham and Derby.
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The Brewers can't use a DH.

 

They have played Thames in both corners, Schoop at SS, Aguilar at 3rd, and Shaw at 2nd. They would find a way to work him in somewhere to get his bat in the lineup.

 

 

Again, Davis cannot play anywhere but LF. Thames can play 1st, Schoop 2nd, Aguilar 1B, and Shaw 3rd.

 

Yeah so. We make it work with Thames in the outfield, and Davis is not worse then Thames out there. If we had Davis and Braun was playing, Braun would have to go back to RF (or have never left) - that is not the end of the world. The one thing is that Davis actually has reverse splits and where we are lacking this year is winning against lefties, so he wouldn't provide the help you would think in that regard.

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Davis is on pace for 45-50 HR and 130 RBI. I get he can only play one position but that's the case for Aguilar too and where would the Brewers be without him? I could live with the lack of versatility and having a runner take an occasional base on my LF with that kind of production. Santana's in the minor leagues as are Nottingham and Derby.

 

Can you at least acknowledge that Khris Davis is likely one of if not the worst defensive outfielder in MLB? Because I'm thinking that is likely a big reason he is no longer a Brewer. Davis's defense makes Santana look like Willie Mays.

 

I do agree that the Brewers did not get enough value back in that trade, even though I really like Nottingham.

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Khrush hasn’t been a Brewer since 2015 but yet here we are. This is as bad as we collapsed in 1879 so these players in 2018 will surely collapse too.
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Davis is on pace for 45-50 HR and 130 RBI. I get he can only play one position but that's the case for Aguilar too and where would the Brewers be without him? I could live with the lack of versatility and having a runner take an occasional base on my LF with that kind of production. Santana's in the minor leagues as are Nottingham and Derby.

 

Aguilar can play third in a pinch. It'd be different if Davis could play 1st but he can't. It's one thing to quibble with the return on the Davis trade (duly noted....again). It's another to think he would be a fit in the NL.

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Davis is on pace for 45-50 HR and 130 RBI. I get he can only play one position but that's the case for Aguilar too and where would the Brewers be without him? I could live with the lack of versatility and having a runner take an occasional base on my LF with that kind of production. Santana's in the minor leagues as are Nottingham and Derby.

 

It's not that he can only play one position, it's that he can BARELY play one position. He is -22 career by both DRS & UZR in 4,000+ LF innings.

 

Last year he played 115 games/993 innings in LF. He came in at -13 DRS/-10 UZR. This year he has played 11 games in LF.

 

As a result he has been a 2.5 WAR player in 2016/2017 & is on pace for 3 WAR this year despite the shiny HR/RBI numbers. He is a nice player in the AL but his inability to play the field at a level resembling competency makes him useless in the NL.

 

Really hope OAK doesn't extend Khrush so he can hit free agency after 2019 & we can see just what his true market value is.

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Looks to me like Davis has only played 11 games in the OF this year. Presumably games in NL parks. So yea I think Oak figured that out too. I think most here and likely the folks in charge didn't think he'd have this kind of hitting success going forward since it seemed so streaky for us. I never thought he'd be this good or maintain it this consistently, so yea in hindsight they probably got less of a return than they should have, but their hand was kind of forced by the D and had to trade him and thought better to do it then rather than risk injury or a dropoff.
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Gotta “love” these hindsight 20/20 posts. Why stop at Khris Davis? Why not moan about Chris Carter too?

 

The Brewers also got hosed on the Gary Sheffield trade. He did pretty well after the Brewers traded him. Although Matt Mieske did have a sweet mustache.

 

The trade that pissed me off was the Greg Vaughn trade. I loved me some Greg Vaughn. Vaughn's Valley. I remember a game as a kid where it was raining out and he was up. He hits one really hard, about halfway up the bleachers, and nearly the same time as a bolt of lightning out beyond the bleachers. Was one of the coolest things I ever saw in person.

 

Domingo's power loss this year is strange to say the least. Nice to see him getting the stroke going a bit, even if it is at CS. He would be a huge September add if he's any good at all!

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Do we have to add Domingo by 9/1 for him to be playoff eligible?
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Do we have to add Domingo by 9/1 for him to be playoff eligible?

 

Postseason Eligibility

Definition

Per Major League Baseball's collective bargaining agreement, players must meet certain criteria in order to be eligible for postseason play.

 

Players must be on the 40-man roster, the 60-day disabled list or the bereavement/family medical emergency list as of midnight ET on Aug. 31 to be eligible for their respective clubs' postseason rosters. Consequently, players that are acquired via September trades or signed as free agents in September are ineligible for postseason play.

 

Clubs can petition the Commissioner's Office to add any player that was not on the 40-man roster as of Aug. 31 -- provided the player was in the organization on Aug. 31 and is replacing a player who has spent at least 60 days on the 60-day disabled list. The Royals were able to use this tactic to add Brandon Finnegan to their roster during the 2014 postseason, despite the fact that Finnegan was not on the 40-man roster as of Aug. 31.

 

Additionally, all players who have served part of a suspension for performance-enhancing drugs in a given season are ineligible for postseason play that year.

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Additionally, all players who have served part of a suspension for performance-enhancing drugs in a given season are ineligible for postseason play that year.

 

I read this three times, and feel like there has to be another caveat to it: "And have not yet completed their suspension"

 

If someone were suspended 50 games, served 15 games last year and 35 this year, they would then be post season eligible.

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Yeah so. We make it work with Thames in the outfield, and Davis is not worse then Thames out there.

 

He is substantially worse than Thames, actually. Substantially. Despite his time in the OF, Thames has basically been slightly below average in total this year defensively. Davis has played 11 games in the OF and tallied -1.3 WAR out there. In 11 games.

 

Seriously guys, his bat is nice if you have the DH. Otherwise his defense erodes much of his offensive value.

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Yeah so. We make it work with Thames in the outfield, and Davis is not worse then Thames out there.

 

He is substantially worse than Thames, actually. Substantially. Despite his time in the OF, Thames has basically been slightly below average in total this year defensively. Davis has played 11 games in the OF and tallied -1.3 WAR out there. In 11 games.

 

Seriously guys, his bat is nice if you have the DH. Otherwise his defense erodes much of his offensive value.

 

Just to add to that, given the way the Brewers use their defense and how they like to shuffle guys around, his lack of versatility would make Davis an especially bad fit on this team. His bad arm would be more exposed in shifts than normal. All that said, I think left field defense has less value than any other position so his bad defense as a traditional left fielder is somewhat mitigated.

There needs to be a King Thames version of the bible.
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Yeah so. We make it work with Thames in the outfield, and Davis is not worse then Thames out there.

 

He is substantially worse than Thames, actually. Substantially. Despite his time in the OF, Thames has basically been slightly below average in total this year defensively. Davis has played 11 games in the OF and tallied -1.3 WAR out there. In 11 games.

 

If there is some stat that says Thames is a better outfielder than Davis, it is really short on data or flawed. I admit I have old-timers disease, but I don't remember Davis staggering under flyballs and such that I see when Thames is out there. Davis is also faster in the OF once he knows where he wants to go. Just doesn't have the arm, but that also means he would be looking for the proper cutoff.

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Yeah so. We make it work with Thames in the outfield, and Davis is not worse then Thames out there.

 

He is substantially worse than Thames, actually. Substantially. Despite his time in the OF, Thames has basically been slightly below average in total this year defensively. Davis has played 11 games in the OF and tallied -1.3 WAR out there. In 11 games.

 

Seriously guys, his bat is nice if you have the DH. Otherwise his defense erodes much of his offensive value.

 

dWAR over a 11 game span....come on man. You think he is really worth about -16+ WAR per year defensively? He doesn't even have a single error in his 80 or so innings. That's just impossible to believe he is that bad.

 

Of course maybe things have changed not playing the OF much these days. With us he actually ran good routes and got good jumps (severely underrated and under noticed by novice fans). Was his arm weak? Yah, but that is incredibly overrated by fans constantly. Yelich has a trash arm and no one really bats an eye.

 

With us he was about a -1.0 WAR guy defensively (I would agree there), but that surely was not bad at all with the offense he provided...especially in his last year. Stearns likely thought it was a fluke and sold high. Too bad for us it wasn't and our light trade package turned to junk if Nottingham doesn't provide anything.

 

There is no way Eric Thames is better than Davis in the OF. Eric Thames shuffles and side steps to fly balls in the gap, he can't get grounders without looking like a tumble weed, and looks so uncomfortable you wonder if he thinks he has no clothes on. It is brutal. Nothing is easy for him out there.

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Domingo is going to have some bit hits for us come September and October. It is going to be fun!
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