Where is Domingo's Power?

[monkeyman343434]

They just don't really have a spot for him anymore, and it doesn't really make much sense to pay a guy a couple million dollars in arbitration to have him sit in AAA as depth.

santana will enter his first arbitration year this off-season. he has burned his final minor league option this year, so there's no way the club can send him to the minors next year without trying to outright him.

 

All the more reason he will likely be traded in the offseason.

 

For even less than his value was this past offseason, thanks Stearns

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

For even less than his value was this past offseason, thanks Stearns

 

This is a strawman argument. I've come around to the idea that if Santana had any value, he would have been dealt by now. The fact that he is still kicking around the Brewers system (unceremoniously) tells me that the rest of MLB sees his numbers last year as an aberration.

[istanbultaye]

 

For even less than his value was this past offseason, thanks Stearns

 

This is a strawman argument. I've come around to the idea that is Santana had any value, he would have been dealt by now. The fact that he is still kicking around the Brewers system (unceremoniously) tells me that the rest of MLB sees his numbers last year as an aberration.

 

My thought is that a team that kicked the tires on him last year, but their package wasn't what Stearns was looking for, might offer a similar package again, under the assumption that he will bounce back, and that Stearns would be more likely to accept what last year he might have considered a lowball offer.

[SRB]

Domingo falling off a cliff this offseason suggests teams may have been scouting/valuing him correctly, and Stearns understandably refused to sell for that price when Domingo was coming off an excellent season.

[djoctagone]

santana is heating up. 7 for 14 in his last three games, and a three run homer yesterday.

[JohnBriggs12]

Domingo falling off a cliff this offseason suggests teams may have been scouting/valuing him correctly, and Stearns understandably refused to sell for that price when Domingo was coming off an excellent season.

 

Stearns was feeling burned by the tepid return he got for the premier slugger in the game right now, Khris Davis, and was holding out for more for Santana. He overrated Santana when he dealt Davis to make room for him and he thought his value was more that it was but scouts had concerns.

[xisxisxis]

Domingo falling off a cliff this offseason suggests teams may have been scouting/valuing him correctly, and Stearns understandably refused to sell for that price when Domingo was coming off an excellent season.

 

Stearns was feeling burned by the tepid return he got for the premier slugger in the game right now, Khris Davis, and was holding out for more for Santana. He overrated Santana when he dealt Davis to make room for him and he thought his value was more that it was but scouts had concerns.

Join us next week for another episode of Being David Stearns where we learn what he was really thinking when he released Scooter Gennett....

[dlk9s]

Stearns' inability to deal for a starting pitcher at the trade deadline stems from deep-seated issues with his mother.

[danzig6767]

Domingo falling off a cliff this offseason suggests teams may have been scouting/valuing him correctly, and Stearns understandably refused to sell for that price when Domingo was coming off an excellent season.

People can believe that Santana would not consistently be as good as he was last year and thus it made sense to shop him, but i don't recall anyone predicting that he'd fall off the cliff like he did this year.

 

Unlike swing at everything hitters in the mode of Arcia, Perez, Schoop, etc who it's easy to see why they slump badly by getting themselves out by regularly swinging at crap off the plate, Santana walked 73 times last season. He has continued walking at a good rate this year, both while in the majors and in AAA.

 

His power completely vanishing though couldn't have been predicted, even if some thought he wouldn't remain a 30 plus homer guy every year.

[stoutdude04]

Domingo falling off a cliff this offseason suggests teams may have been scouting/valuing him correctly, and Stearns understandably refused to sell for that price when Domingo was coming off an excellent season.

 

Stearns was feeling burned by the tepid return he got for the premier slugger in the game right now, Khris Davis, and was holding out for more for Santana. He overrated Santana when he dealt Davis to make room for him and he thought his value was more that it was but scouts had concerns.

 

Ghostwriting his memoir?

[homer]

Khris Davis is arguably the worst outfield defender in all of baseball. He's so bad that it nearly mitigates his offense.....which is telling because he's really good offensively. He should be a DH.

[adambr2]

Khris Davis is arguably the worst outfield defender in all of baseball. He's so bad that it nearly mitigates his offense.....which is telling because he's really good offensively. He should be a DH.

 

As a team that regularly starts Eric Thames in the outfield, I doubt that would stop us from starting Davis if he was still here.

[joepepsi]

Khris Davis is arguably the worst outfield defender in all of baseball. He's so bad that it nearly mitigates his offense.....which is telling because he's really good offensively. He should be a DH.

Davis has started 10 games in the OF and played a total of 86 innings. I doubt that mitigates much of anything. I wonder how many chances a corner OF'er gets on average and how awful he would really need to be to negatively affect a positive offensive contribution.

 

Braun has 88 putouts in 89 chances in 448.1 innings in LF this year. Yellich has 83 PO's in 86 chances in 464 innings in LF this year. I am not making the case that Braun is Yellich's equal. Clearly Yellich is a wonderful outfielder. But given the number of chances a LF'er has in a game, and the fact most balls hit to the outfield are rather routine, how much impact does the difference between a bad LF'er and a good LF'er really make? Is it 5 missed plays a year? 10?

[homer]

Khris Davis is arguably the worst outfield defender in all of baseball. He's so bad that it nearly mitigates his offense.....which is telling because he's really good offensively. He should be a DH.

 

As a team that regularly starts Eric Thames in the outfield, I doubt that would stop us from starting Davis if he was still here.

 

Thames can play first. Davis can't even do that.

[homer]

Khris Davis is arguably the worst outfield defender in all of baseball. He's so bad that it nearly mitigates his offense.....which is telling because he's really good offensively. He should be a DH.

Davis has started 10 games in the OF and played a total of 86 innings. I doubt that mitigates much of anything. I wonder how many chances a corner OF'er gets on average and how awful he would really need to be to negatively affect a positive offensive contribution.

 

He has -13.5 WAR defensively per FanGraphs this year (offense is +15.2) and on Baseball Reference he's -1.2 defensively and +2.5 on offense.

 

Also the Brewers don't have a DH so he'd be causing even bigger issues if he was still here.

[wildcat83]

the premier slugger in the game right now, Khris Davis.

 

Really?

 

Trout

JD Martinez

Judge

 

Just to name a few... I probably don't put Krush in my top 5.

[DuWayne Steurer]

All the rest of this stuff is debatable, but Khris Davis is the 'premier slugger in the game"????

 

Stanton.

Judge.

Trout.

Betts

Arenado

Jose Ramirez

 

on and on...... all of whom do more than JUST hit homeruns and hit .240 and play awful defense.

[superfly]

All the rest of this stuff is debatable, but Khris Davis is the 'premier slugger in the game"????

 

Stanton.

Judge.

Trout.

Betts

Arenado

Jose Ramirez

 

on and on...... all of whom do more than JUST hit homeruns and hit .240 and play awful defense.

 

Not even including Bryce Harper lol on a bad season. Khris Davis isn't even on my radar as "the premiere slugger." Hell, Aguilar is up there as a slugger. You have to at least be able to throw a baseball to be a premiere anything...

[danzig6767]

All the rest of this stuff is debatable, but Khris Davis is the 'premier slugger in the game"????

 

Stanton.

Judge.

Trout.

Betts

Arenado

Jose Ramirez

 

on and on...... all of whom do more than JUST hit homeruns and hit .240 and play awful defense.

That was just said because he leads baseball in home runs since Oakland acquired him.

[Boomer5]

Davis has like a 900 OPS and 33 HRs which is the primary way the Brewers score runs. We just traded for two low OBA guys who really only hit HRs in theory.

 

Yes we could use Davis now.

[jerichoholicninja]

I saw a highlight of Santana's last HR for CS on Twitter recently and it reminded how unusual his swing is for a slugger. I'm not a hitting expert by any means but to me he doesn't really have swing to drive the ball. You watch Braun or Thames and they have a swing that drives through the ball before and after contact. Santana almost seems like he's swinging the bat to a spot and if the ball and bat meet perfectly he'll drive it, otherwise it's weak contact somewhere. Almost like a slap hitter would but he doesn't have the speed or bat to ball skills to make it effective.

[homer]

Davis has like a 900 OPS and 33 HRs which is the primary way the Brewers score runs. We just traded for two low OBA guys who really only hit HRs in theory.

 

Yes we could use Davis now.

 

The Brewers can't use a DH.

[adambr2]

Davis has like a 900 OPS and 33 HRs which is the primary way the Brewers score runs. We just traded for two low OBA guys who really only hit HRs in theory.

 

Yes we could use Davis now.

 

The Brewers can't use a DH.

 

They have played Thames in both corners, Schoop at SS, Aguilar at 3rd, and Shaw at 2nd. They would find a way to work him in somewhere to get his bat in the lineup.

[xisxisxis]

They have played Thames in both corners, Schoop at SS, Aguilar at 3rd, and Shaw at 2nd. They would find a way to work him in somewhere to get his bat in the lineup.

We have Cain, Yelich, Thames and Aguilar for 3 OF and 1B... Where would Davis play? All of them are better than he is at this point. . Then you have a $20M PH in Braun sitting on the bench. Davis is like a shot of alcohol... empty calories with no nutrition..

[homer]

Davis has like a 900 OPS and 33 HRs which is the primary way the Brewers score runs. We just traded for two low OBA guys who really only hit HRs in theory.

 

Yes we could use Davis now.

 

The Brewers can't use a DH.

 

They have played Thames in both corners, Schoop at SS, Aguilar at 3rd, and Shaw at 2nd. They would find a way to work him in somewhere to get his bat in the lineup.

 

 

Again, Davis cannot play anywhere but LF. Thames can play 1st, Schoop 2nd, Aguilar 1B, and Shaw 3rd.