Cam Roegner

[Mr Southpaw]

Wisconsin native who has a .068 era in A+ after nine starts and 53 innings. He has never had a 4.00 era in his three years with the Brewers. At six foot six and left handed and his current number, he is hard not to like without ever seeing him pitch. Has anyone seen him pitch? What does he throw and how fast?

[And That]

Mid-high 80s fastball, plus a curveball and change-up. Primarily relies on fastball command.

[ClosetBrewerFan]

He's also old for the league (25 and lg average is 23.1)

[Mr Southpaw]

So he is similar to Suter? Older college guy with good control and not much else? He needs to have good control and outsmart hitters to be successful?

[JohnBriggs12]

He's also old for the league (25 and lg average is 23.1)

 

I discount the age factor for Midwest kids like Suter and Roegner. They didn't play year round growing up. Roegner was almost 23 when he was drafted. He has no more pro experience than the guys he's facing, and less than most.

[JohnBriggs12]

So he is similar to Suter? Older college guy with good control and not much else? He needs to have good control and outsmart hitters to be successful?

 

Fastball command is the single most critical skill a pitcher needs to have success. If you don't have it, it doesn't matter how hard you throw it.

[markedman5]

Gets lots of ground balls....not 25 for another 3 weeks to be accurate

 

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/Professional/2018/05/24/Mudcats-Roegner-Supak-have-been-dominant-in-a-few-different-ways.html

 

Supak might be the steal from that Jason Rogers trade.....

[OnTheBlack]

So he is similar to Suter? Older college guy with good control and not much else? He needs to have good control and outsmart hitters to be successful?

 

Fastball command is the single most critical skill a pitcher needs to have success. If you don't have it, it doesn't matter how hard you throw it.

 

And if you have it, you're a lefty who throws 87-91 and has two other good pitches and gets a lot of ground balls, you can have a successful career. Just today I was YET AGAIN baffled as a lefty with average(at best) stuff got through a solid lineup with 88 MPH fastballs, but he locates them really well.

 

Supak's stuff is far more exciting because of the obviously ceiling on pitchers who can't get those K's, but Roegner sounds like the type of guy who gets called up at 27 and just plugs along as a swing man, loogy or even back of the rotation starter.

 

Absolutely loving the Brewers young arms right now. I was thinking we'd have a nice looking pen down the road when the young power arms sorted themselves out. The guys who didn't have that third pitch or failed as starters. But we already have that dominant pen with some really smart moves and we have guys to spare(in years past, Houser and Barnes could have been our 8th/closer combo).

 

Just....really hoping Nelson comes back and finds it quickly this year and Burnes can be that X-factor that nobody is counting on, but gets called up and jumps out to a fast start.

[Mr Southpaw]

A nice article about his life.

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2018/05/29/brewers-fan-kid-now-his-star-team-rising/650411002/

 

Talks about him speaking with Suter when he was on rehab about being "crafty" and not having a 100 mile fastball.

[KeithStone53151]

Gets lots of ground balls....not 25 for another 3 weeks to be accurate

 

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/Professional/2018/05/24/Mudcats-Roegner-Supak-have-been-dominant-in-a-few-different-ways.html

 

Supak might be the steal from that Jason Rogers trade.....

 

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but have you or anyone else seen any specific velocity readings on Supak...or know why he's having so much success so far? I remember seeing some video on him last year and was a bit underwhelmed by his offspeed...that and his velocity was more low 90s than mid 90s.

[And That]

Supak has been around 91-93 from what I’ve heard this year. His curveball is, IMO, still easily his best pitch. He’s a bit atypical in that he likes to work up in the zone with his fastball. Partly to change eye level when he spins his big breaking curve.

[FVBrewerFan]

Supak has been around 91-93 from what I’ve heard this year. His curveball is, IMO, still easily his best pitch. He’s a bit atypical in that he likes to work up in the zone with his fastball. Partly to change eye level when he spins his big breaking curve.

 

Not really atypical anymore. High fastballs are in. As for Roegner, 25 is old for A ball regardless of where he's from. Doesnt mean he can't make it, but we'll see how he does on Biloxi, which will be soon.

[OnTheBlack]

Gets lots of ground balls....not 25 for another 3 weeks to be accurate

 

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/Professional/2018/05/24/Mudcats-Roegner-Supak-have-been-dominant-in-a-few-different-ways.html

 

Supak might be the steal from that Jason Rogers trade.....

 

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but have you or anyone else seen any specific velocity readings on Supak...or know why he's having so much success so far? I remember seeing some video on him last year and was a bit underwhelmed by his offspeed...that and his velocity was more low 90s than mid 90s.

 

 

I've seen where others have said that he sits in the lower 90's and hits 95 or 96 on occasion. My guess would be a 92 MPH fastball maybe? So take that for what it's worth. A few links I've read saying he sits in the low 90's with a mid 90's fastball and that he could still add a tick or two.

 

 

Edit-Sorry, missed "AndThat's" post. That is essentially what I've seen with just a bit higher velocity in scouting reports. If he can add 2 MPH(I know, asking a lot, but nice big frame) and he's sitting 93-95....who knows.

[KeithStone53151]

Supak has been around 91-93 from what I’ve heard this year. His curveball is, IMO, still easily his best pitch. He’s a bit atypical in that he likes to work up in the zone with his fastball. Partly to change eye level when he spins his big breaking curve.

 

Not really atypical anymore. High fastballs are in. As for Roegner, 25 is old for A ball regardless of where he's from. Doesnt mean he can't make it, but we'll see how he does on Biloxi, which will be soon.

 

Even if the curve is above average-plus...I'm not sure that's enough velocity to be overly successful on 2 pitches in the majors, even in relief. If he can add some velocity, he can very likely be a good reliever. If he can improve a 3rd pitch then he has a real shot to start. He still has plenty of time though.

[And That]

Not really atypical anymore. High fastballs are in.

For the most part, the top Brewers' pitching prospects work low and vary their look by going up high. I'd say that would more or less be true of Burnes, Woodruff, Jankins, Brown, Webb, Ponce, Houser, and Medeiros. I don't know if that's by design or chance, but it is what it is.

 

From my observation, Ortiz and to a lesser extent Diplan and Wilkerson work more up, though Ortiz, Diplan, Wilkerson, and Supak have very few commonalities beyond that. And of those four, I'd say Supak is the only one who I expect to be high in the zone. The others will work lower.

[And That]

Even if the curve is above average-plus...I'm not sure that's enough velocity to be overly successful on 2 pitches in the majors, even in relief. If he can add some velocity, he can very likely be a good reliever. If he can improve a 3rd pitch then he has a real shot to start. He still has plenty of time though.

I've seen Supak throw a few good changeups this year, though I don't know how the pitch projects at the big league level. He also has a good feel for moving the ball around the plate, and pitch sequencing in general. I think he has at least a decent shot to remain as a starter.

[clancyphile]

A nice article about his life.

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2018/05/29/brewers-fan-kid-now-his-star-team-rising/650411002/

 

Talks about him speaking with Suter when he was on rehab about being "crafty" and not having a 100 mile fastball.

 

I'm beginning to wonder if Suter may not have a future as a pitching coach after his playing career ends. Not that he will have a bad career...

 

Also, will we see Roegner head up to AA?

[liveforoctober]

I've always been interested in the college guys who aren't over powering for some reason. Yes, you always want the Kerry Wood prospects... but having brainy kids who know how to pitch really fill out the depth in the organization if they can progress to the higher tanks.

 

Like Roegner, there is another Wisconsin kid drafted last year with the Padres is off to a great start in low A ball, Caleb Boushley. Sub 2 ERA, sub 1 whip, k/bb over 4, almost 9ks per 9. Like Cam, fastball doesn't go much above 90. College grad so old for the league.

 

I like these types for some reason.

[clancyphile]

I've always been interested in the college guys who aren't over powering for some reason. Yes, you always want the Kerry Wood prospects... but having brainy kids who know how to pitch really fill out the depth in the organization if they can progress to the higher tanks.

 

Like Roegner, there is another Wisconsin kid drafted last year with the Padres is off to a great start in low A ball, Caleb Boushley. Sub 2 ERA, sub 1 whip, k/bb over 4, almost 9ks per 9. Like Cam, fastball doesn't go much above 90. College grad so old for the league.

 

I like these types for some reason.

 

They produce. What's not to like about them?