Milwaukee Bucks 2018 - 2019

[superfly]

Golden State vs Cleveland again. Yawn.

 

The GOAT earned his spot, and as for the other squad it's not their fault Houston chokes.

[Fear The Chorizo]

4 straight NBA finals, rinse and repeat teams...no real reason to have a league anymore, and a big reason why I've largely tuned out NBA basketball.

[pacopete4]

Amazing that you guys are just figuring out that basketball is ruled by the top players. What do you expect to happen in a me-me-me type of a game? Tune into the NHL if you want something exciting and intriguing.

[Baldkin]

4 straight NBA finals, rinse and repeat teams...no real reason to have a league anymore, and a big reason why I've largely tuned out NBA basketball.

 

They just had two game 7's in the conference finals, with the road teams winning both games.

 

Yep. Inherently boring and noncompetitive.

[paul253]

Yep. Inherently boring and noncompetitive.

 

When you have a League when most of the really good players want to either play in a major market like NYC, LA, Miami, etc or they all want to play on the same team as each other competitiveness kind of goes by the wayside. Add in the fact that the draft is becoming more like the MLB draft where even top five picks take years to develop, which makes it hard for the really bad teams to improve quickly.

 

I’ll watch the Bucks from time to time but in general I could not care less about the NBA.

[superfly]

Yep. Inherently boring and noncompetitive.

 

When you have a League when most of the really good players want to either play in a major market like NYC, LA, Miami, etc or they all want to play on the same team as each other competitiveness kind of goes by the wayside. Add in the fact that the draft is becoming more like the MLB draft where even top five picks take years to develop, which makes it hard for the really bad teams to improve quickly.

 

I’ll watch the Bucks from time to time but in general I could not care less about the NBA.

 

If Houston literally doesn't miss 27 threes in a row Golden State is at home booking tee times. TWENTY SEVEN. Can a blind man miss 27 in a row? I bet you could make more than 1 if you were in the game.

 

Who plays in NY again? The Knicks haven't been relevant in at least 5 years. The Lakers haven't been relevant in at least that long. Miami is not relevant now that the big 3 are retired/injured/moved on. Chicago has been meh or bad for a decade. Big markets aren't the draw that they're made out to be. Golden State was the redheaded stepchild of the west coast until they hit on a couple draft picks called Curry, Klay, and Draymond who won a title without freeloadin' Kevin. Cleveland is the armpit of America.

 

I generally agree with your premises, but there are definitely holes. Hockey has become #1 for me during this time of year because of the competitiveness and other extraneous factors, but there has been some great basketball played in this playoffs IMO. Just sucks that the Bucks are a player short of really making noise ala Boston. By the way, we took them to 7 and weren't far from winning. On a cold February night I couldn't care less about the Kings vs the Clippers, but come May I tune in to watch. It's not all that much different than MLB aside from the Brewers and tiny bit Twins, or NHL aside from the Wild and Blackhawks for me.

 

Oh, and that guy Lebron James. He's pretty good at basketball and can do it with or without friends.

[Baldkin]

This Bryan Colangelo stuff is absolutely crazy.

 

I mean, imagine if the Ted Thompson had 5 fake twitter accounts and was tweeting out medical information about players.

 

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/5/29/17406750/bryan-colangelo-philadelphia-76ers-twitter-joel-embiid-anonymous-markelle-fultz

[coolhandluke121]

Yep. Inherently boring and noncompetitive.

 

When you have a League when most of the really good players want to either play in a major market like NYC, LA, Miami, etc or they all want to play on the same team as each other competitiveness kind of goes by the wayside. Add in the fact that the draft is becoming more like the MLB draft where even top five picks take years to develop, which makes it hard for the really bad teams to improve quickly.

 

I’ll watch the Bucks from time to time but in general I could not care less about the NBA.

 

I think there's a lot more to it. It's not all the biggest markets anymore, and hasn't been for a while. There's a salary cap and revenue sharing, and the CBA allows teams to keep their own players relatively easily. A lot of teams are extremely foolish and short-sighted, and they have nobody to blame but themselves for not being competitive. Then players start to think about moving around, and it's only natural that they look to join a winner - that's not at all unique to basketball.

 

I have a different theory. There's just too many games, and too many scoring events in each game. The better team is almost always going to win a 7-game series. It's nothing like football or baseball, where there are so few scoring events in a game and a lesser team always has a chance. Any team in the playoffs can win the world series. A wild card can win the super bowl. But in basketball, with 82 regular-season games, 7-game playoff series, and 50+ scoring possessions per game, the better team is going to prevail and there's no suspense. It's just flat-out monotonous, repetitive, and boring.

 

Lest anyone think it's an issue with the game itself, consider this: what's the one time of year people who supposedly hate basketball get really into it? The NCAA tournament. People will watch that all weekend for a month, even if they could barely tell you who won the NBA finals any time this decade. That's because it's one and done and you don't know who's going to win, and players are giving their all because they don't have to hold back to avoid injury and overwhelming fatigue. NBA basketball should have 2 games a week and 3 to 5-game series in the playoffs.

[xisxisxis]

I stopped watching basketball years ago when it just all started to look the same. Every game would be 45-46 minutes of irrelevant play then the final 2-3 minutes would take forever and in many ways benefited a team that played like **** for the first 45-46 minutes to change the outcome in 2-3 minutes. Just make games 5 minutes long. The regular season is the same, 82 games and crappy teams get into the playoffs, then you have round after round of 7 game series and the same old same old... Maybe it's late onset ADD, but I can watch a football game and know that, in most cases and when Mike McCarthy isn't running the show, a football game where a team is down 3-4 possessions that they are toast - because all of the game is relevant. In the NBA it's day in day out a different game at the very end. Baseball doesn't change the game in the final inning, football mostly adheres to the same rules, although I would like to see "rushing" of the markers and setup stopped as it cheapens the game. I just have way more demands on my time than to be put through 90+ minutes of my time in irrelevant time then stretch out the final 2-3 minutes over 20-30 minutes of real time. There's no attraction to me from taking a game of flow and movement then play it frame by frame at the end... I'll tune into the NCAA tournament, but you can't pay me to watch the NBA...

[homer]

I feel like the pro game has gotten so physical that refs have become horribly inconsistent when calling fouls.

[OnaBadger58]

I feel like the pro game has gotten so physical that refs have become horribly inconsistent when calling fouls.

They don't even set screens anymore, players literally run up to the defender and hug them causing them to switch. The inconsistency is what drives me nuts. The refs swallowed their whistles in the third quarter when Harden and the Rockets were blatantly fouled on numerous possessions.

 

With that said, I will take this brand of basketball over what college has become in the last 3-4 years. Feel like college should just be a free throw shooting contest.

[FVBrewerFan]

If you don't like the NBA, I wont convince you otherwise. Some points are legit, others really are not. But it's like convincing someone baseball is not boring. Why bother.

 

But if you don't enjoy watching Giannis, then you're probably just not a basketball fan period.

[trwi7]

4 straight NBA finals, rinse and repeat teams...no real reason to have a league anymore, and a big reason why I've largely tuned out NBA basketball.

 

They just had two game 7's in the conference finals, with the road teams winning both games.

 

Yep. Inherently boring and noncompetitive.

 

The average margin of defeat in the conference finals was larger than the average margin of defeat than the 9 win 76ers had a couple years ago.

[pacopete4]

I wish Draymond Green played hockey so he’d get taken care of. What a douchey player/person he is.

[brwrsfan]

I wish Draymond Green played hockey so he’d get taken care of. What a douchey player/person he is.

 

Sooner or later, someone is going to punch him. I hope. Dude deserves it.

 

He's the most arrogant/dbag player when they're winning, and by far, the biggest baby on earth when they're losing. I can't stand him.

[RobDeer 45]

I feel so bad for Lebron. His gang of misfits, should have taken game one. They can't afford to not win a game like that. Bad calls by the referees down the stretch. And yes, Green is the worst. It's one thing to get under people's skin, but it's another to be a blatant jerk. You're on a stacked team, playing a super star and a bunch of nobodies. Act like you've been there before.

[nate82]

Podcast with Khris Middleton talking about Celtics series, Sterling Brown, Giannis, and other random things.

 

Starts at about 19:30 mark.

 

 

https://player.fm/series/mickstape-1542578

[Austin Tatious]

Good interview. Thank you for pointing it out. I’m surprised they didn’t discuss Parker.

[Austin Tatious]

I see the Bucks as needing three pieces.

 

1. A point guard who can distribute

2. A big man with strength to get boards consistently, protect the rim, and generally match up with the power up front, e.g., Al Holford

3. A dead eye shooter who can stretch the court and play off Giannis.

 

With all that in mind, and seeing what’s possible at 17, the player who screams out to me is Kevin Huerter. He’s a smart player with moxie and he can drill shots all day long at 6’7. He’s the guy I think is fairly obvious. I don’t know if someone slips, e.g., a Robert Williams, but unless something wacky happens, I’d go with Huerter.

 

With Budenholzer on board, I hope he can use his influence to get on the Huerter bandwagon. I do not trust these guys in the front office after that DJ Wilson pick which we could see was dumb the whole way. If we can see it, it’s ludicrous that a paid professional cannot see it. I wanted OG Anunoby or Harry Giles even. If we hadn’t made that stupid Vasquez trade, we could have drafted both.

 

A home run offseason is if we keep 17 for Huerter, and perhaps trade a piece to get up for Bamba. If you add Bamba and Huerter to this team, the personnel portion will be on its way. The player development and on court strategy is expected to be top notch going forward.

[patrickgpe]

I'm fully prepared to be disappointed on Thursday (hopefully not as much as last season), but I decided that I want DiVincenzo, Huerter, and K. Thomas in that order, unless Robert Williams somehow falls.

[JackNicholson1974]

I want that guy Dzazan Musa.

[RollieTime]

If the Bucks are serious about trading up to draft Bamba if he is available in the 3-5 range, what would it take to get there?

 

Would trading the number 17 pick plus Middleton get it done? Middleton is owed $13 million this season and will definitely opt out of the last year of his contract and get a hefty bump probably in the $25 million range for 4 years.

 

I don’t see any other possible way for the Bucks to get up that high in the draft unless Middleton is involved. I think that Bamba will be a force very early in his career and will be a true rim protector from day 1.

 

Getting Bamba would be a nice splash move to open the new arena. Plus having Parker and Middleton’s contracts off the books would free up a lot of cap space to chase after big name players either this offseason or next offseason.

 

Plus, who wouldn’t want to watch Bamba and Giannis running the floor together on fast breaks or destroying the rim on pick and rolls?

[Baldkin]

I severely doubt that Middleton + 17 would be enough to get top 3. Why would those terrible teams want a worse pick and someone they'll have to overpay to keep in a year?

 

If they find a way to trade up, I hope it's for Doncic. I just love his game and he'd be perfect next to Giannis.

[statman0007]

I'd like Khryi Thomas at #17. Seems like a Brogdon type of guy. If Robert Williams or Lonnie Walker drop they'd be good too. I wouldn't be opposed to trading #17 for an early-mid 2nd round pick if a team was willing to take on a Delly/Snell/Henson contract. Guys like Jevon Carter, Moritz Wagner, Brunson, ect could be there and would be interesting.

 

I'd also trade Bledsoe, Henson, and #17 for Whiteside if Miami is looking to make a deal.

[rwa12]

Package the pick with a dead salary for relief. Don’t care if we get a pick this year. Not a Bamba believer at all. Get something for Parker after the draft. Miami doesn’t like Whiteside, he’d help this team, although not a fan.