2018-05-09: Indians (Carrasco) at Brewers (Guerra) 12:10 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 6-2; Knebel makes his return]

[stoutdude04]

13 ks through 7. Might as well hope he gets 19 at this point.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

I know 2 Ks, but Villar has had some good ABs today.

 

Thought Pina's 15 pitch K might help him turn it around, but he's really struggling.

[pacopete4]

I feel like Villar has had some good at-bats, seeing 5-7 pitches a crack but it always seems like it still ends in a K. Ends up swinging through something. It is just so strange.

[Fear The Chorizo]

strikeouts are less damaging to big innings than double play balls...but when 13 of 21 outs thus far are recorded without the defense having to make any kind of play it really doesn't matter all that much, does it?

[adambr2]

I had so much hope for Villar after 2016. He looked like a young ascending star that we flat out stole from Houston. His blend of power and speed as a middle infielder made it easy to forgive his choppy defense.

 

I had the same hopes for Broxton after his 2nd half in 2016, but Villar doing it for a full season made it seem more real.

 

Unfortunately he just hasn’t been able to build on that and solidify himself as a lineup mainstay. I guess we can only be glad he didn’t take our extension offer.

[KeithStone53151]

That was truly impressive. In the 8th inning, 3 guys see 6 pitches combined and get themselves out. Well done!

[PinaMadness]

How does a double down the right field line somehow always turn into a triple?

[pacopete4]

Well, at least we split this series. Could be worse.

[trwi7]

How does a double down the right field line somehow turn into a triple?

 

Santana had a long way to go and instead of bouncing out back towards the field, it kind of stuck in the corner.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

How does a double down the right field line somehow always turn into a triple?

 

The ball got "Domingo'd"

[KeithStone53151]

Well, at least we split this series. Could be worse.

 

If you told me yesterday afternoon that we'd split a 2 game series with Suter and Guerra starting against Kluber and Carrasco...I'd be pretty thrilled.

[IntentionalHBP]

I had so much hope for Villar after 2016. He looked like a young ascending star that we flat out stole from Houston. His blend of power and speed as a middle infielder made it easy to forgive his choppy defense.

 

I had the same hopes for Broxton after his 2nd half in 2016, but Villar doing it for a full season made it seem more real.

 

Unfortunately he just hasn’t been able to build on that and solidify himself as a lineup mainstay. I guess we can only be glad he didn’t take our extension offer.

There could have been some pressure to maintain his success after denying the extension.

[adambr2]

How does Coles seriously still have a job?

 

I know it’s not all his fault but this was supposed to be the one part of our team we didn’t need to worry about and here we are still just leaving off from the second half of 2017. Broxton gone. Cain here. Yelich here. Problems also still here. Sure they’ve cut down on strikeouts, which has accomplished absolutely nothing.

 

At some point you just have to hold the guy in charge accountable and give someone else a shot to get through to these guys.

[trwi7]

That was truly impressive. In the 8th inning, 3 guys see 6 pitches combined and get themselves out. Well done!

 

To be fair, Pina, Arcia and Perez were the batters and saw about 3 more pitches than I expected them to.

[jonescm128]

Let's hope the thin air in Colorado wakes up our bats

[pacopete4]

Well, at least we split this series. Could be worse.

 

If you told me yesterday afternoon that we'd split a 2 game series with Suter and Guerra starting against Kluber and Carrasco...I'd be pretty thrilled.

 

Great point. It is easy for us to be so negative because they are giving us a ton of reasons to be but they are still in the mix for most wins in the NL. Hopefully, this will get turned around and we'll all have a good laugh about all the stuff we have said about these guys.

[FVBrewerFan]

I had so much hope for Villar after 2016. He looked like a young ascending star that we flat out stole from Houston. His blend of power and speed as a middle infielder made it easy to forgive his choppy defense.

 

I had the same hopes for Broxton after his 2nd half in 2016, but Villar doing it for a full season made it seem more real.

 

Unfortunately he just hasn’t been able to build on that and solidify himself as a lineup mainstay. I guess we can only be glad he didn’t take our extension offer.

 

It's why you should trade guys like that after their hot/career year. Just like they did with Gomez. Anderson, Broxton, Villar, Pina, Knebel, etc. Especially while rebuilding. You may get burned by one of them for trading them away, but for the most part it will be the right decision.

[KeithStone53151]

Well, at least we split this series. Could be worse.

 

If you told me yesterday afternoon that we'd split a 2 game series with Suter and Guerra starting against Kluber and Carrasco...I'd be pretty thrilled.

 

Great point. It is easy for us to be so negative because they are giving us a ton of reasons to be but they are still in the mix for most wins in the NL. Hopefully, this will get turned around and we'll all have a good laugh about all the stuff we have said about these guys.

 

I tend to agree. Being on our A game right now isn't as important as it will be in August and September. Just scratch out the wins and put ourselves in a position to add at the deadline, and hopefully have guys get hot and make a run.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I had so much hope for Villar after 2016. He looked like a young ascending star that we flat out stole from Houston. His blend of power and speed as a middle infielder made it easy to forgive his choppy defense.

 

I had the same hopes for Broxton after his 2nd half in 2016, but Villar doing it for a full season made it seem more real.

 

Unfortunately he just hasn’t been able to build on that and solidify himself as a lineup mainstay. I guess we can only be glad he didn’t take our extension offer.

 

It's why you should trade guys like that after their hot/career year. Just like they did with Gomez. Anderson, Broxton, Villar, Pina, Knebel, etc. Especially while rebuilding. You may get burned by one of them for trading them away, but for the most part it will be the right decision.

 

That very well may have been the original plan. Winning 86 last year meant those plans changed.

[bigredrobbo]

You'd think, from most of the comments, we had the Reds' record, not tied for the divisional lead going into today.

[trwi7]

I had so much hope for Villar after 2016. He looked like a young ascending star that we flat out stole from Houston. His blend of power and speed as a middle infielder made it easy to forgive his choppy defense.

 

I had the same hopes for Broxton after his 2nd half in 2016, but Villar doing it for a full season made it seem more real.

 

Unfortunately he just hasn’t been able to build on that and solidify himself as a lineup mainstay. I guess we can only be glad he didn’t take our extension offer.

 

It's why you should trade guys like that after their hot/career year. Just like they did with Gomez. Anderson, Broxton, Villar, Pina, Knebel, etc. Especially while rebuilding. You may get burned by one of them for trading them away, but for the most part it will be the right decision.

 

Braun, Shaw, Santana, Guerra etc. But no, we just had to trade for major league players to make our record respectable.

[adambr2]

You'd think, from most of the comments, we had the Reds' record, not tied for the divisional lead going into today.

 

My comments were specific to the offense, which has stunk for years and continues to stink, and they are not going to contend until that changes.

[FVBrewerFan]

I had so much hope for Villar after 2016. He looked like a young ascending star that we flat out stole from Houston. His blend of power and speed as a middle infielder made it easy to forgive his choppy defense.

 

I had the same hopes for Broxton after his 2nd half in 2016, but Villar doing it for a full season made it seem more real.

 

Unfortunately he just hasn’t been able to build on that and solidify himself as a lineup mainstay. I guess we can only be glad he didn’t take our extension offer.

 

It's why you should trade guys like that after their hot/career year. Just like they did with Gomez. Anderson, Broxton, Villar, Pina, Knebel, etc. Especially while rebuilding. You may get burned by one of them for trading them away, but for the most part it will be the right decision.

 

Braun, Shaw, Santana, Guerra etc. But no, we just had to trade for major league players to make our record respectable.

 

Million dollar question, did Stearns want to continue rebuilding or did Mark A want to move the needle more to the "compete" side of the dial? Just knowing Mark A, I would bet he wanted to compete this year, without giving up too many prospects/ money. (Not all-in.) So many of us recognized last season as fool's gold, I just have to believe Stearns knew it too.

[jonescm128]

You'd think, from most of the comments, we had the Reds' record, not tied for the divisional lead going into today.

 

My comments were specific to the offense, which has stunk for years and continues to stink, and they are not going to contend until that changes.

 

They are at 3.70 runs per game this year which would put this team as fourth worst in Brewers history, right ahead of the '71, '72, and '76 teams.

[trwi7]

Million dollar question, did Stearns want to continue rebuilding or did Mark A want to move the needle more to the "compete" side of the dial? Just knowing Mark A, I would bet he wanted to compete this year, without giving up too many prospects/ money. (Not all-in.) So many of us recognized last season as fool's gold, I just have to believe Stearns knew it too.

 

No, this is Stearns. As I said before, I have no idea why he had to have Shaw in the Thornburg trade or Anderson in the Segura trade. You get those guys when you're ready to contend and have holes to fill, not in the middle of a rebuild.