Manny Machado (Part 1)

[trwi7]

Found this on Twitter :

 

“I’m a shortstop. I play shortstop.” - Manny Machado, when asked if he’d move back to third base if traded to contender.

 

I guess we're all shortstops.

[KeithStone53151]

Why? This is what he needs to say for free agency. JJ Hardy said this as well.

 

What happens if we trade for him and need him to sub in at 3rd occasionally? Will he do it willingly? Its also generally not good to throw a me-first player into a contending clubhouse.

[JohnBriggs12]

I'd prefer not to trade our only 3b and C prospects

 

 

I'd contend that Payton Henry might be a better prospect in the long run than Nottingham. Nottingham is certainly not the only catching prospect.

[Boomer5]

Why? This is what he needs to say for free agency. JJ Hardy said this as well.

 

What happens if we trade for him and need him to sub in at 3rd occasionally? Will he do it willingly? Its also generally not good to throw a me-first player into a contending clubhouse.

 

Pro atheletes in general and certainly baseball players seem to be incredible jerks. Machados odd stance is sadly not unique. It just comes with the territory. Sogard will play anywhere you ask him, but he won’t help anyone win.

 

I wish there were more Robin Younts than Bryce Harpers and Chris Carpenters but that isn’t the case.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Found this on Twitter :

 

“I’m a shortstop. I play shortstop.” - Manny Machado, when asked if he’d move back to third base if traded to contender.

 

Hey, I know a team that can use one of those!

 

I get it regarding Machado, though. He came up through the Orioles system as a SS, only to be thrown over to 3B to accomodate JJ Hardy. I would imagine he'd like to primarily play one position. I have to imagine that he would be willing to fill in at 3B, though, if Shaw needed a breather. The guy has never come across as a locker room cancer or a me-first guy, so I'm not real sure where that idea is coming from. A few of you guys are making some pretty big logistical leaps in my opinion.

[Fear The Chorizo]

He's also still an Oriole, and I don't think it's a fair question to ask about hypothetical position switches on other teams at this point. All Baltimore media has to look forward to the rest of this year is the trade package returning for Machado - he's probably getting tired of the same questions surrounding a trade since early this season when it was apparent the Orioles were going nowhere in 2018.

[JosephC]

Update on Britton:

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/bs-sp-orioles-britton-brach-20180709-story.html

 

His salary still makes him a questionable fit for the Brewers IMO, but I thought I'd post this for the pro-Britton folks out there. Velocity has been back to normal in the last couple of appearance.

[pacopete4]

Found this on Twitter :

 

“I’m a shortstop. I play shortstop.” - Manny Machado, when asked if he’d move back to third base if traded to contender.

 

Hey, I know a team that can use one of those!

 

I get it regarding Machado, though. He came up through the Orioles system as a SS, only to be thrown over to 3B to accomodate JJ Hardy. I would imagine he'd like to primarily play one position. I have to imagine that he would be willing to fill in at 3B, though, if Shaw needed a breather. The guy has never come across as a locker room cancer or a me-first guy, so I'm not real sure where that idea is coming from. A few of you guys are making some pretty big logistical leaps in my opinion.

 

You mean like taking a comment from the GM about Nelson not pitching until September and flipping it to us acquiring a TOR pitcher? .... I don’t think anyone is flipping anything. He said he’s a shortstop only, yet you’re the one putting words in his mouth saying he would probably be willing to play 3B. I mean, huh?

 

I don’t know if he’s a clubhouse cancer or not but that quote answered the question a couple posters talked about earlier in the thread. They wanted to know if he would be okay filling in for Shaw against lefties and/or defensive double switches. Well, that was answered by the man himself.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

You mean like taking a comment from the GM about Nelson not pitching until September and flipping it to us acquiring a TOR pitcher? .... I don’t think anyone is flipping anything. He said he’s a shortstop only, yet you’re the one putting words in his mouth saying he would probably be willing to play 3B. I mean, huh?

 

I don’t know if he’s a clubhouse cancer or not but that quote answered the question a couple posters talked about earlier in the thread. They wanted to know if he would be okay filling in for Shaw against lefties and/or defensive double switches. Well, that was answered by the man himself.

 

This coming from the guy who was arguing that the Brewers have jerked Villar around position-wise is just ... odd. I mean, Villar was in no position to determine where he played on the field. He didn't have the track record to do that. Machado obviously has a bigger track record.

 

But that doesn't really matter. Machado is a SS, and that's where I would imagine he would see 99% of his playing time with the Brewers. That position, other than some decent play from Saladino in limited action, has been a black hole in the lineup. Machado would immediately solve the team's biggest short-term offensive weakness.

 

And yes, I took the Nelson quote as saying, basically, "Hey, this guy isn't going to be with us much if at all this year, so don't be surprised if we do something to shore up that area." Yeah, it's probably a stretch, but this is the season for wild rumors and speculation.

[PeaveyFury]

They wanted to know if he would be okay filling in for Shaw against lefties and/or defensive double switches. Well, that was answered by the man himself.

 

 

I don't know if that specific question was answered, though. He was asked what position he would like to play if traded, not whether he's open to shifting over to 3B in late-inning situations or spot starting there 1-2 times a week.

[Eye Black]

Random question, if we acquire Machado prior to the AS game, does he go as a Brewer or an Oriole?

My understanding is he would be recognized as an American League All-Star, but ineligible to play in the game. A somewhat similar situation happened with Jeff Samardzija a few years ago I believe.

Well, I guess Ken Rosenthal’s The Athletic article has a different take on this question. From Rosenthal...

 

Baseball will have decisions to make if Baltimore Orioles shortstop Manny Machado and/or Tampa Bay Rays catcher Wilson Ramos get traded to a National League club after their respective elections to the AL All-star team.

 

The situation is not the same as it was in 2014, when Jeff Samardzija wore an NL jersey and generic cap in introductions after the Cubs sent him to the A’s earlier in July. The game is again a pure exhibition, no longer determining home-field advantage for the World Series.

 

Baseball has no hard rule on what it would do with a player who is traded to the other league, but MLB probably would want Machado, in particular, to play in the game, perhaps as an injury replacement on the NL side. How the Orioles would be represented under such circumstances is another question.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

They wanted to know if he would be okay filling in for Shaw against lefties and/or defensive double switches. Well, that was answered by the man himself.

 

 

I don't know if that specific question was answered, though. He was asked what position he would like to play if traded, not whether he's open to shifting over to 3B in late-inning situations or spot starting there 1-2 times a week.

 

Thank you. Context is important.

[pacopete4]

 

You mean like taking a comment from the GM about Nelson not pitching until September and flipping it to us acquiring a TOR pitcher? .... I don’t think anyone is flipping anything. He said he’s a shortstop only, yet you’re the one putting words in his mouth saying he would probably be willing to play 3B. I mean, huh?

 

I don’t know if he’s a clubhouse cancer or not but that quote answered the question a couple posters talked about earlier in the thread. They wanted to know if he would be okay filling in for Shaw against lefties and/or defensive double switches. Well, that was answered by the man himself.

 

This coming from the guy who was arguing that the Brewers have jerked Villar around position-wise is just ... odd. I mean, Villar was in no position to determine where he played on the field. He didn't have the track record to do that. Machado obviously has a bigger track record.

 

But that doesn't really matter. Machado is a SS, and that's where I would imagine he would see 99% of his playing time with the Brewers. That position, other than some decent play from Saladino in limited action, has been a black hole in the lineup. Machado would immediately solve the team's biggest short-term offensive weakness.

 

And yes, I took the Nelson quote as saying, basically, "Hey, this guy isn't going to be with us much if at all this year, so don't be surprised if we do something to shore up that area." Yeah, it's probably a stretch, but this is the season for wild rumors and speculation.

 

Oh my. Get called out and respond back with anything your can think of. Villar and his situation have nothing to do with anything being discussed. Heck, even you say that in your post, so why even mention it? Response of the day at its early...

[Boomer5]

People are getting a little salty over this.

 

Machado can hit and we need hitting. It’s not that complicated.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Update on Britton:

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/bs-sp-orioles-britton-brach-20180709-story.html

 

His salary still makes him a questionable fit for the Brewers IMO, but I thought I'd post this for the pro-Britton folks out there. Velocity has been back to normal in the last couple of appearance.

 

I had posted something similar a few pages back in this thread - the recent injuries (right achilles rupture, Dec 2017 and left forearm/knee soreness throughout the 2017 season) are still of concern. But the achilles is on his landing leg and the arm/knee toubles from last season appear to be behind him. As Britton continues to build up strength (he's basically gone through his spring training over this past month of MLB appearances due to the achilles recovery), there will be a high demand for him. I think the Orioles are foolish to try and package Britton with Machado, because they'd probably get better value by trading Machado before the AS Break, and then continuing to showcase Britton right up to the trade deadline to prove he's healthy and slightly lower what remaining 2018 salary he'd have.

 

If his velocity keeps creeping back into that 97-98 range, he'd be a stretch run difference maker at the back end of someone's bullpen.

[pacopete4]

People are getting a little salty over this.

 

Machado can hit and we need hitting. It’s not that complicated.

 

It really isn’t that simple.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

You mean like taking a comment from the GM about Nelson not pitching until September and flipping it to us acquiring a TOR pitcher? .... I don’t think anyone is flipping anything. He said he’s a shortstop only, yet you’re the one putting words in his mouth saying he would probably be willing to play 3B. I mean, huh?

 

I don’t know if he’s a clubhouse cancer or not but that quote answered the question a couple posters talked about earlier in the thread. They wanted to know if he would be okay filling in for Shaw against lefties and/or defensive double switches. Well, that was answered by the man himself.

 

This coming from the guy who was arguing that the Brewers have jerked Villar around position-wise is just ... odd. I mean, Villar was in no position to determine where he played on the field. He didn't have the track record to do that. Machado obviously has a bigger track record.

 

But that doesn't really matter. Machado is a SS, and that's where I would imagine he would see 99% of his playing time with the Brewers. That position, other than some decent play from Saladino in limited action, has been a black hole in the lineup. Machado would immediately solve the team's biggest short-term offensive weakness.

 

And yes, I took the Nelson quote as saying, basically, "Hey, this guy isn't going to be with us much if at all this year, so don't be surprised if we do something to shore up that area." Yeah, it's probably a stretch, but this is the season for wild rumors and speculation.

 

Oh my. Get called out and respond back with anything your can think of. Villar and his situation have nothing to do with anything being discussed. Heck, even you say that in your post, so why even mention it? Response of the day at its early...

 

You called out my speculation on Nelson (which has absolutely nothing to do with this) in a Machado thread. Glass houses and all ...

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

People are getting a little salty over this.

 

Machado can hit and we need hitting. It’s not that complicated.

 

More specifically, the Brewers need a SS who isn't an offensive black hole. The best available trade candidate happens to play SS. We are the ones making this complicated.

[clancyphile]

I'd rather part with Broxton or Santana for obvious reasons. I love Phillips left-handedness, defense, and that he's controllable for longer.

 

I like Phillips, too.

 

But at this point, Corey Ray has it put together, and the Crew also has Troy Stokes.

 

I could live with Phillips, Arcia, and Ortiz for Machado and international bonus money.

[pacopete4]

 

You called out my speculation on Nelson (which has absolutely nothing to do with this) in a Machado thread. Glass houses and all ...

 

A few of you guys are making some pretty big logistical leaps in my opinion.

That was your original reponse to my post. A post that had no speculation and only Machado’s words. Your Nelson/TOR comments may not be about Machado but it sure shows that what you mention above is exactly what you do. It’s just that this time it goes against what you want. You got called out, didn’t like it, and had a hilarious reponse. It’s okay, we can all do better...

[homer]

Guys, settle down or you're getting a time out.

[pacopete4]

They wanted to know if he would be okay filling in for Shaw against lefties and/or defensive double switches. Well, that was answered by the man himself.

 

 

I don't know if that specific question was answered, though. He was asked what position he would like to play if traded, not whether he's open to shifting over to 3B in late-inning situations or spot starting there 1-2 times a week.

 

All we can do is go by his words. So far it’s that he’s a shortstop. He plays shortstop.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

They wanted to know if he would be okay filling in for Shaw against lefties and/or defensive double switches. Well, that was answered by the man himself.

 

 

I don't know if that specific question was answered, though. He was asked what position he would like to play if traded, not whether he's open to shifting over to 3B in late-inning situations or spot starting there 1-2 times a week.

 

All we can do is go by his words. So far it’s that he’s a shortstop. He plays shortstop.

 

And we need a shortstop.

 

Arguing over whether he'd be willing to play a different position in a pinch is like deciding not to put an offer in on your dream house because the carpet is not a light enough shade of beige.

[pacopete4]

 

 

I don't know if that specific question was answered, though. He was asked what position he would like to play if traded, not whether he's open to shifting over to 3B in late-inning situations or spot starting there 1-2 times a week.

 

All we can do is go by his words. So far it’s that he’s a shortstop. He plays shortstop.

 

And we need a shortstop.

 

Arguing over whether he'd be willing to play a different position in a pinch is like deciding not to put an offer in on your dream house because the carpet is not a light enough shade of beige.

 

Where did I say we didn’t need a shortstop? Or that we shouldn’t trade for him because he will only play shortstop?

 

We get it. You want him. Now let others discuss it as well. Pros and cons. They can coexist in threads.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

You called out my speculation on Nelson (which has absolutely nothing to do with this) in a Machado thread. Glass houses and all ...

 

A few of you guys are making some pretty big logistical leaps in my opinion.

That was your original reponse to my post. A post that had no speculation and only Machado’s words. Your Nelson/TOR comments may not be about Machado but it sure shows that what you mention above is exactly what you do. It’s just that this time it goes against what you want. You got called out, didn’t like it, and had a hilarious reponse. It’s okay, we can all do better...

 

You are right, the "logistical leaps" thing was a little strong. Haven't had enough coffee this morning yet I suppose. I concede ... you win.