The Ryan Braun Milestone Thread

[The stache]

Brauny with career home run #240 tonight. He is now 11 home runs behind Robin Yount for the team's all-time lead. At this rate, he'll be passing Yount sometime in July. He has an outside chance at passing Cooper for third on the team's all-time runs scored list by season's end. He's 83 behind him. He should pass Geoff Jenkins for fourth on the all-time doubles list. Jenkins has 287, and Braun, with two last night, has 272. He's one triple behind Jim Gantner for fourth, and 5 behind Charlie Moore for third at 42.

[splitterpfj]

Ryan Braun is now the franchise leader in career home runs.

[AKCheesehead]

Ryan Braun is now the franchise leader in career home runs.

 

I got curious as to how many MLB franchises had a career HR leader with less HR than Milwaukee. In case you were wondering, it's the Rays, Marlins, Padres, Dbacks and Nats. One more for Braun and you can add the Mets to that list, as Strawberry hit 252 in his time with NYM.

edit: forgot dbacks.

[The stache]

I said it in the other thread, I'll say it here. Milwaukee can't compete with the big clubs. Whenever we get a guy that is a major home run hitter, we can't keep them long term. It's not that we haven't had great power hitters. Eventually, they just benefit other teams instead of our own.

 

Prince Fielder started in Milwaukee. He's over 300 home runs now.

Gary Sheffield started his career in Milwaukee. He hit 509 home runs in his career. But he was unhappy here because the team wasn't a contender.

Richie Sexson didn't start in Milwaukee, to be sure. But if we had kept him here long term, he might have hit more than 251. In his three full seasons, he hit 119 home runs, for pete's sake.

 

There have been some special power hitters to play ball in Milwaukee. 252 isn't a huge number, but let's remember our relatively abbreviated history, and our financial means.

 

Besides, if somebody were to mention our puny all-time home run leader, I would remind them that Hank Aaron hit 398 home runs in Milwaukee as a Brave, and Eddie Mathews hit 452. I imagine that would shut them up pretty quickly.

[AKCheesehead]

Definitely, 'stache. The Yount reaction/interview tells it too. Even Greg Vaughn, who had 355 in his 15 year career. It was exciting watching him develop from a kid to becoming the 30 year old 950 ops guy he was for us in '96. But we all knew at that point we had to trade him or else lose him at the end of the season for nothing at all.

Though on your last point, I will say, I wouldn't want to give some cards fan the smug satisfaction of telling me that Mathews and Aaron's glory was with the Braves, not the Brewers. (aside from Aaron's last 22, of course)

[torts]

Ryan Braun is now the franchise leader in career home runs.

 

I got curious as to how many MLB franchises had a career HR leader with less HR than Milwaukee. In case you were wondering, it's the Rays, Marlins, Padres, Dbacks and Nats. One more for Braun and you can add the Mets to that list, as Strawberry hit 252 in his time with NYM.

edit: forgot dbacks.

 

rays - 1998

MArlins - 1993

DBacks - 1998

Nationals - 2004 (or does that include the Expos, too?)

PAdres - 1969

 

so of the teams without a player who has hit 252 home runs, 4 of the five have only been around for less than 20 years... just to emphasize how much the brewers have struggled to keep a power hitter in town

[Boomer5]

I said it in the other thread, I'll say it here. Milwaukee can't compete with the big clubs. Whenever we get a guy that is a major home run hitter, we can't keep them long term. It's not that we haven't had great power hitters. Eventually, they just benefit other teams instead of our own.

 

Prince Fielder started in Milwaukee. He's over 300 home runs now.

Gary Sheffield started his career in Milwaukee. He hit 509 home runs in his career. But he was unhappy here because the team wasn't a contender.

Richie Sexson didn't start in Milwaukee, to be sure. But if we had kept him here long term, he might have hit more than 251. In his three full seasons, he hit 119 home runs, for pete's sake.

 

There have been some special power hitters to play ball in Milwaukee. 252 isn't a huge number, but let's remember our relatively abbreviated history, and our financial means.

 

Besides, if somebody were to mention our puny all-time home run leader, I would remind them that Hank Aaron hit 398 home runs in Milwaukee as a Brave, and Eddie Mathews hit 452. I imagine that would shut them up pretty quickly.

 

Thats true, but in a way thats how it is for every franchise. FA is great for the players, but not necessarily great for the game and the fans. Its very rare to have a 15 year star player year after year, which is what fans want to see.

 

The game has evolved, and older guys like me will just need to adjust.

[BrewCrewForever]

Let’s say Braun hit’s another 8 this season and gets to 260 for his career. In his next five seasons with the Brewers he would need to average 28 per season and he could get to 400. I would say he has a legit shot to get there. No guarantee, but if he stays healthy he should get there. Hopefully the thumb procedures twice per year will continue to help remedy that issue. Wish I could have been at Miller Park to see it live, I was at the game Sunday to see him tie Yount with the slam, great moments.

[reillymcshane]

Let’s say Braun hit’s another 8 this season and gets to 260 for his career. In his next five seasons with the Brewers he would need to average 28 per season and he could get to 400. I would say he has a legit shot to get there. No guarantee, but if he stays healthy he should get there. Hopefully the thumb procedures twice per year will continue to help remedy that issue. Wish I could have been at Miller Park to see it live, I was at the game Sunday to see him tie Yount with the slam, great moments.

So much is going to rely on good health. One pulled muscle or whatever and he has a season with 10 HR. Averaging 28 is pretty tough for a guy (especially for a guy in his 30s). It would be sweet for him to get 400, but I'm skeptical just knowing that guys often breakdown as they age. A monster or two season - say 35 HR - would really help.

[AKCheesehead]

 

rays - 1998

MArlins - 1993

DBacks - 1998

Nationals - 2004 (or does that include the Expos, too?)

PAdres - 1969

 

so of the teams without a player who has hit 252 home runs, 4 of the five have only been around for less than 20 years... just to emphasize how much the brewers have struggled to keep a power hitter in town

 

Nats record includes Expos. Vlad, at 234. So, another 1969 team.

[torts]

so 3 of the 4 1969 expansion teams and every team since then havent had anyone over 252 HRs. that doesnt really surprise me for some reason.

[torts]

so 3 of the 4 1969 expansion teams and every team since then havent had anyone over 252 HRs. that doesnt really surprise me for some reason.

 

I take that back, 4 of the 10 teams since 1969 have someone over 252 homers. those 4 teams are colorado, toronto, seattle, and kansas city

[Outlander]

Braun is now tied with Cecil Cooper for 3rd in franchise history in runs with 821. He has also moved from 9th to 6th in franchise walks since the start of the season. Is currently 7 hits away from 1,500. Unfortunately for Ryan he is now second in avg. and OPS, contrary to the title of this thread.

[pacopete4]

Braun's Rank - Stat # = (Leader and Stat)

1st in HR- 306 (2nd- Yount- 251)

2nd in RBI- 1,000 (Yount- 1,406)

2nd in SLG - .539 (Fielder- .540)

2nd in OPS- .903 (Fielder- .929)

3rd in SB- 195 (Molitor- 412)

3rd in 3B- 45 (Yount- 126)

3rd in 2B- 347 (Yount- 583)

3rd in Runs- 942 (Yount- 1,632)

4th in Hits- 1,711 (Yount- 3,142)

4th in Average - .301 (Cirillo- .307)

4th in OBP - .363 (Fielder- .390)

4th in BB- 514 (Yount- 966)

5th in Games- 1,472 (Yount- 2,856)

5th in At Bats- 5,685 (Yount- 11,008)

 

*A mod can do this better if they know how to list it but I thought it was interesting to follow after last night and him reaching 1,000 RBI's.

 

Edit: I put them in order based on his ranking.

[pacopete4]

Braun also had this to say about reaching that 1,000 RBI milestone:

 

Per @AdamMcCalvy

After reaching 1,000 RBIs, Ryan Braun mentioned his most prominent teammate over the years. "For five or six years, I had Prince Fielder hitting behind me, so people never wanted to walk me to get to him. You’re just getting a lot of opportunity.”

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I think this should be morphed into the Ryan Braun Appreciation Thread, and any anti-Braun stuff deleted.

[pacopete4]

I think this should be morphed into the Ryan Braun Appreciation Thread, and any anti-Braun stuff deleted.

 

To be honest, I could've sworn that we had some sort of thread like this that tracked his march up the leaderboards but when searching I could not find it. If there is, a mod is more than welcomed to morph all that together.

 

It was cool to see Braun give a shoutout to Fielder. Always forget how much of a beast he was as a Brewer. They were so much fun to watch.

[FVBrewerFan]

Still over .300 career BA, hope he can hang on to that but not real likely. Also, I think he could have made a run at SB leader if the game didn't change so much, and teams stopped running for the most part.

 

That list also reminded me how great it would be to Cirillo's bat in the line-up right about now.

[bork]

For most of the counting stats, he's pretty far behind Yount and Molitor. He'll have to put up a number of big, healthy season to move up those lists.

[tmwiese55]

YEa two wasted seasons right in his prime by the suspension and thumb injury killed his counting stats for list like this and HOF counting stats to even make a discussion for him there. PED wouldn't allow it anyway, but his counting stats won't be there regardless.

[Outlander]

The original topic is at http://forum.brewerfan.net/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=29750&start=60 but has not been updated for a couple of years.

[pacopete4]

The original topic is at http://forum.brewerfan.net/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=29750&start=60 but has not been updated for a couple of years.

Good find Outlander. I must be terrible at using the search feature.

[topper09er]

Robin Yount through his first 6304 PAs (Braun's total right now)

 

6304 PA, 5764 AB, 831 R, 1642 H, 312 2B, 121 HR, 677 RBI .285/.328/.425, age=28

 

and Braun

6304 PA, 5685 AB, 942 R, 1711 H, 347 2B, 306 HR, 1000 RBI .301/.363/.539, age=34

[3and2Fastball]

Congrats to Braun on the 1000th RBI

[bork]

Robin Yount through his first 6304 PAs (Braun's total right now)

 

6304 PA, 5764 AB, 831 R, 1642 H, 312 2B, 121 HR, 677 RBI .285/.328/.425, age=28

 

and Braun

6304 PA, 5685 AB, 942 R, 1711 H, 347 2B, 306 HR, 1000 RBI .301/.363/.539, age=34

 

Yount played another 9 years and had 3 more MVP caliber seasons. Braun will be lucky to make it to 37, like Yount.