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Reds fire manager Bryan Price


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Won't make a difference. The GM/Owner should fire themselves.
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I don't get it. It was obvious that the Reds were tanking this season when they did absolutely nothing in the offseason to help their club. I wouldn't even really call it a rebuild, though, as they haven't made any effort to move their veterans with value to restock their system. I would imagine guys like Votto, Hamilton, Duvall, Barnhart, Iglesias, Bailey and even Gennett would have solid value. It isn't Price's fault that team leadership has no direction.
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It's definitely Bryan Price's fault that Joey Votto has 1 XBH and a .588 OPS.

 

The Reds have plenty of guys that can hit. None of them are actually doing it. They were not going to be a good team coming into the season, but with a pitching staff that bad, if nobody hits... well, we're seeing the results. Someone has to be the fall guy, and it's usually the manager.

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Looks like management just wanted him gone, but wanted a decent "reason" for the fans. They probably thought 3-15 was as bad as it was ever going to get so they didn't want to let this opportunity go to waste. Easy press release, Reds have a worse record than the Browns so we had to fire the manager.
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Weird timing. Everyone knows the Reds were going to suck, why fire him 20 games into the season?

 

I know, right?

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2015/05/03/ron-roenicke-fired-as-manager-of-the-brewers/26852463/

 

(okay, so maybe 25 games is different?)

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I think a commenter on MLBTradeRumors nailed it. After Suarez got hurt they called up a young guy to play 3B. However, it's been Phil Gosselin and Cliff Pennington playing 3B. Those guys have little business being on a 25 man roster, let alone playing over a young guy on a rebuilding team. If Price was going to continue to run out over the hill, never was's over young players he has no business managing that team.
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Weird timing. Everyone knows the Reds were going to suck, why fire him 20 games into the season?

 

I know, right?

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2015/05/03/ron-roenicke-fired-as-manager-of-the-brewers/26852463/

 

(okay, so maybe 25 games is different?)

 

I think RR's firing was 85% the collapse of 2014 and 10% the start to 2015 and 5% starting Mark Kotsay in CF in the NLCS.

 

The Reds could have fired Price in the 1st inning of the 1st game of the season and I wouldn't have mind, just this timing seems strange when everyone knows the Reds are gonna be junk for a while. If it's about play decisions with younger guys, I can understand that.

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I think a commenter on MLBTradeRumors nailed it. After Suarez got hurt they called up a young guy to play 3B. However, it's been Phil Gosselin and Cliff Pennington playing 3B. Those guys have little business being on a 25 man roster, let alone playing over a young guy on a rebuilding team. If Price was going to continue to run out over the hill, never was's over young players he has no business managing that team.

 

That actually sounds like a valid reason to fire the manager.

 

They have a lot of youngsters on the roster and will rid themselves of Mesoraco's $13.125M salary after this year. If they can flip some vets (Gennett and Hamilton will be in their final arby year next year) for young talent this year they could be a decent team in the near future. Note that "decent" probably means ".500 talent hoping things go well" instead of "playoff favorite." It's more common these days to do a bigger tear-down/rebuild, but the Reds probably figure that they don't want to waste Votto's MVP-caliber years.

 

They seem to be a bit of a rudderless ship with about half their salary going to Votto and Bailey, but they're not without talent (veteran and prospect).

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They actually finished last season really well (relatively speaking) but nobody was paying attention. Their offense was raking. Played above .500 ball from Aug-Mid Sept before quitting the last couple weeks. Of course they have no pitching besides the closer, but he got really unlucky their offense has sputtered to start which is what's keeping them from being respectable so far.
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The Reds also announced that Thames is the new owner.

 

[not my joke...saw it elsewhere...]

Thames is minority partner. Majority shareholder is actually Bill Hall.

 

vs. Reds:

Bill Hall: 289/368/569/938

Thames: 344/481/922/1.403

 

Granted, Bill Hall gets extra points for doing most of it on Mother's Day while rocking the pink bat (and more ABs)...

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