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dudes walked 7 times already, bring him up and get him on base

Posted: July 10, 2014, 12:30 AM

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Phillips has cut down on the Ks and increased his OPB, which is exactly what he was asked to do. He is also a ++ defender at all three OF spots, whereas it seems that Broxton is confined to CF. Hopefully we'll eventually get to see the dream defensive OF of Yelich/Cain/Phillips when Yelich heals up.
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his stay won't be long. a starting pitcher is needed wednesday. aaron wilkerson is injured. marcos diplan, junior guerra and freddy peralta are the remaining starter options on the 40-man. of the three, only guerra has major league experience.

 

adrian houser has to stay down 10 days. so does brandon woodruff. if optioned, taylor williams would have to stay down 10 days. the only other relievers on the 25-man that could be optioned are jacob barnes and josh hader, and neither of those moves are happening.

 

at this point, jorge lopez is the only reliever on the 40-man that could be recalled in case another guy struggles.

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I have dreams of Hader getting that start and never leaving the rotation and turning into Chris Sale. I think he pitched about 3 innings Friday and hasn't pitched since. Should be able to get 4-5 out of him if he's off until Wednesday. I know it's a pipe dream.
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I have dreams of Hader getting that start and never leaving the rotation and turning into Chris Sale. I think he pitched about 3 innings Friday and hasn't pitched since. Should be able to get 4-5 out of him if he's off until Wednesday. I know it's a pipe dream.

Seriously, this

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I don’t think it is because there’s simpler reasons but I hope this also isn’t an indication Yelich is hurt worse than has been said

Researching the effect of oblique injuries, it was very wishful thinking to give him a few days to see if he could play. He struggled to swing a bat apparently the other day. Obliques are very tricky with all the torque on a player's core muscles. It hurts to sneeze. Try swinging a bat facing a 95 mph fastball and making contact with a sore oblique.

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I have dreams of Hader getting that start and never leaving the rotation and turning into Chris Sale. I think he pitched about 3 innings Friday and hasn't pitched since. Should be able to get 4-5 out of him if he's off until Wednesday. I know it's a pipe dream.

Seriously, this

If you paid attention to the radar gun during that outing, by his last inning as he hit around 30-35 pitches, Hadar's fastball was down to 91-92mph.

 

Maybe if he was stretched as a starter he could keep his velocity up, but i recall this happened another time or two last year once Hadar got into that 35ish pitch range and his velocity was already declining.

 

What makes Sale special is that he can remain a high velocity pitcher deep into games, something i'm not so sure Hadar can.

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I have dreams of Hader getting that start and never leaving the rotation and turning into Chris Sale. I think he pitched about 3 innings Friday and hasn't pitched since. Should be able to get 4-5 out of him if he's off until Wednesday. I know it's a pipe dream.

Seriously, this

If you paid attention to the radar gun during that outing, by his last inning as he hit around 30-35 pitches, Hadar's fastball was down to 91-92mph.

 

Maybe if he was stretched as a starter he could keep his velocity up, but i recall this happened another time or two last year once Hadar got into that 35ish pitch range and his velocity was already declining.

 

What makes Sale special is that he can remain a high velocity pitcher deep into games, something i'm not so sure Hadar can.

While that’s something to consider a lefty at 91-93 can be perfectly effective and I don’t expect him to be Sale, that’s silly. But I think he’s one of the 3 best options on the team right now for the rotation.

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I have dreams of Hader getting that start and never leaving the rotation and turning into Chris Sale. I think he pitched about 3 innings Friday and hasn't pitched since. Should be able to get 4-5 out of him if he's off until Wednesday. I know it's a pipe dream.

 

 

 

I'm glad that I'm not the only person that has thought this.

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While that’s something to consider a lefty at 91-93 can be perfectly effective and I don’t expect him to be Sale, that’s silly. But I think he’s one of the 3 best options on the team right now for the rotation.

Well, tmwiese55 brought up Sale.

 

I'm not against turning Hadar back into a starter, i just wonder if he did struggle to keep his velocity up, would he then go from being a dominant reliever to just a decent starter who needed to be pulled by the 5th or 6th inning?

 

One thing which i think helps Hadar be so dominant in relief is not just that he can let loose and throw 95-96, it's also that hitters generally only see him once per game and the arm angle which he throws from.

 

Have big league hitters though see him three times in a game and the velocity be down in those 2nd/3rd at bats, will Hadar start getting hit harder, especially given he only has two pitches?

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his stay won't be long. a starting pitcher is needed wednesday. aaron wilkerson is injured. marcos diplan, junior guerra and freddy peralta are the remaining starter options on the 40-man. of the three, only guerra has major league experience.

 

adrian houser has to stay down 10 days. so does brandon woodruff. if optioned, taylor williams would have to stay down 10 days. the only other relievers on the 25-man that could be optioned are jacob barnes and josh hader, and neither of those moves are happening.

 

at this point, jorge lopez is the only reliever on the 40-man that could be recalled in case another guy struggles.

Back in spring training Stearns said that, to paraphrase, he has 8-9 guys who he feels comfortable starting games.

 

I wonder if they take the bottom four of those guys (Woodruff, Guerra, Wilkerson, Peralta) and rotate them in and out with the last few bullpen guys (Houser, Williams, Lopez, Hoover) and Phillips/Broxton/Dubon to maximize the bench and bullpen when the fifth starter isn't pitching?

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Of course Sale would be the dream scenario and very unlikely. Call it a poor man's version, whatever you like. But man it would be nice to have a legit ace level pitcher and his stuff is the closest chance we have. Throw in similar deliveries as Sale, similar path starting in the bullpen and it's just an obvious comparison. I know how good Sale is and how unlikely it is to get to that level. But I did call it a dream so...
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Just will not understand why we would want to move an absolutely dominant WEAPON out of high leverage situations. We can't buy pitching as was blatantly shown this offseason, so we will need to lock down the 6/7/8/9 innings for the foreseeable future.
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Just will not understand why we would want to move an absolutely dominant WEAPON out of high leverage situations. We can't buy pitching as was blatantly shown this offseason, so we will need to lock down the 6/7/8/9 innings for the foreseeable future.

Not even trying Hader as a starter so we can lock down the 6/7/8 innings the next few years is awful use of him and resources in general. It’s much harder and more expensive to fill the rotation than build a bullpen. Even just 160-175 innings of ~4 ERA out of Hader in the rotation is more valuable than whatever he does in his ~60 or so innings out of the bullpen. Plus we already know what he can do out of the pen and we aren’t winning a WS this year, might as well try him as a starter. He can always go back to the pen if he’s a disaster.

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Just will not understand why we would want to move an absolutely dominant WEAPON out of high leverage situations. We can't buy pitching as was blatantly shown this offseason, so we will need to lock down the 6/7/8/9 innings for the foreseeable future.

Not even trying Hader as a starter so we can lock down the 6/7/8 innings the next few years is awful use of him and resources in general. It’s much harder and more expensive to fill the rotation than build a bullpen. Even just 160-175 innings of ~4 ERA out of Hader in the rotation is more valuable than whatever he does in his ~60 or so innings out of the bullpen. Plus we already know what he can do out of the pen and we aren’t winning a WS this year, might as well try him as a starter. He can always go back to the pen if he’s a disaster.

 

Don't mess with this guy's head. His pitches (mainly fastballs) don't translate well to the rotation. He has a unique role and is doing well in it.

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