2018-04-05: Cubs (Lester) at Brewers (Suter) 7:10 PM CDT [Brewers lose 8-0; Knebel down w/injury]

[adambr2]

Same old Hernan, hack away. Would have liked to see him make up for his big miscue.

[adambr2]

No B.A. and Rock, Lester is not an ace. Not anymore, anyway.

[topper09er]

No B.A. and Rock, Lester is not an ace. Not anymore, anyway.

 

Hey now, BA called him an ace and Rock said he was "so-so" last year

[TJseven7]

Belt high FBs and junk that can't hit edges isn't going to work.

[rondoman]

I still cannot believe this is the rotation we have. So frustrating.

[Boomer5]

Suter is getting lit up, as I would expect from a high school pitcher in the majors

 

He seems like such a likable guy but I swear Rock and Brian literally giggle when a major league hitter swings and misses at his “stuff”.

 

I can’t believe the rotation Stearns put out there. Can we get Bill Travers and Jim Slaton to come out of retirement to help us?

 

Maybe Auggie still has his brick-a-ball working?

 

This gets a like from me even though we don’t have one.

[82brewcrew82]

I still cannot believe this is the rotation we have. So frustrating.

It really is taking the fun out of this. It is still early and things could change but this was so predictable.

[wildcat83]

Brewers want to pitch up in the zone more this year, but we don't have guys who throw 96+ and everything that is belt and up gets hammered. Don't agree with the philosophy at all.

[TJseven7]

I still cannot believe this is the rotation we have. So frustrating.

 

Well suters bad on his location.

Davies sucks in april

Chacin can't get his slider going

And Anderson has been decent at best.

 

Its looking worse that it should but yeah...

[TJseven7]

Brewers want to pitch up in the zone more this year, but we don't have guys who throw 96+ and everything that is belt and up gets hammered. Don't agree with the philosophy at all.

 

I've seen these results... did they actually say this stupidity is planned. Belt high 92 mph fbs aren't a good pitch.

[82brewcrew82]

Suter certainly isn't fooling anyone.

[adambr2]

Suter is an absolute trash can.

[TJseven7]

Belt high fbs at 86 mph and junk in the middle 3rd are going to get crushed.

[Boomer5]

What’s actually funny is Suter isn’t even our number 5. Stearns willingly put him as our regular number 4.

 

My goodness what a waste of a quality lineup.

[adambr2]

Maybe the whole "Derek Johnson will fix 'em!" idea wasn't so solid. (I was guilty of this too.)

[wildcat83]

Brewers want to pitch up in the zone more this year, but we don't have guys who throw 96+ and everything that is belt and up gets hammered. Don't agree with the philosophy at all.

 

I've seen these results... did they actually say this stupidity is planned. Belt high 92 mph fbs aren't a good pitch.

 

Yeah, they talked about it a few different times this spring. It's a philosophy that might work for hard throwers, but that's just not our personnel outside of Woodruff.

[topper09er]

Suter cannot face the lineup again, Bryant will destroy him.

[TJseven7]

Brewers want to pitch up in the zone more this year, but we don't have guys who throw 96+ and everything that is belt and up gets hammered. Don't agree with the philosophy at all.

 

I've seen these results... did they actually say this stupidity is planned. Belt high 92 mph fbs aren't a good pitch.

 

Yeah, they talked about it a few different times this spring. It's a philosophy that might work for hard throwers, but that's just not our personnel outside of Woodruff.

 

Stunning... yeah for woodruff and most of the pen. Suter doing it is tee ball.

[cnycerveceros]

Be quiet BA. He's never quiet. Always recapping the misery.

[Fear The Chorizo]

even the whole piggy back starter theory before a guy with marginal stuff gets into the lineup for a 3rd time only really works when he can give you more than 3 innings and give up less than half a dozen runs.

 

I'm not sure why anyone expected anything more from Suter - he's a bullpen longman at best, but most likely his professional ceiling is as a starter in the Japanese leagues. His lack of fooling anyone sticks out even worse when the other more established starters on this roster are all struggling to open the year, too. After tonight I think you've gotta switch him out for Guerra in the rotation, shift Suter into the long man bullpen spot, see if you can squeeze Aguilar back to AAA without another team picking him up (unlikely), and hope like hell Woodruff can give you some decent starts in the #5 role.

 

Otherwise, this is going to be a gas can rotation and the pen will get fried. Probably will be anyways unless guys sort out some problems very quickly. Not having a bona-fide #1 or at least acknowledged staff ace could lead to a disaster.

[CheezWizHed]

Stunning... yeah for woodruff and most of the pen. Suter doing it is tee ball.

 

They did more of it last year too. But "up in the zone" wasn't meant to be belt high. More like up around the letters or shoulders.

[cnycerveceros]

It is remarkable the number of ways this team can be bad.

[Patrick425]

There is a rule that allows umps to not allow a play if he thinks you let a ball drop on purpose? Huh? Never heard of that.

[adambr2]

Why was Suter hitting? I swear, Counsell is the king of "I've got to let him hit here because I've got to squeeze a few more hitters out of him."

 

We had a guy on to start the inning, just PH for Suter and see if you can string together a big inning and get back in this game. But no, you've got to give away an out and snuff out the chance for a big inning to ride it out with the total junk he's throwing when you'll be fortunate to even get another inning out of him.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Why was Suter hitting? I swear, Counsell is the king of "I've got to let him hit here because I've got to squeeze a few more hitters out of him."

 

We had a guy on to start the inning, just PH for Suter and see if you can string together a big inning and get back in this game. But no, you've got to give away an out and snuff out the chance for a big inning to ride it out with the total junk he's throwing when you'll be fortunate to even get another inning out of him.

 

Exactly my thoughts - I'd be shocked if he doesn't get yanked next 1/2 inning with at least two guys on and one out, after essentially giving away an out by letting him hit the inning earlier.