2018 Wisconsin Badgers football

[pacopete4]

Coan was a highly rated QB recruit as well, 4 stars, top 10. All time NY record holder. And in two years of development how did he look? Something is lacking on the offensive side of the coaching. I'd guess PC needs to get more heavily involved in the offense/QBs again. Call it a demotion of Rudolph or not, idc, but something is up. Of course, I don't for sure his current level of involvement but it seems lacking considering he has a tiny playcard and just how bad the passing game has been since he's been back. Nothing looks like it did under him previously. Bostad should be back to coaching OL again.

 

The D, well they lost a ton of seniors and were massively injured yet generally held their own. Don't see too much to be overly worried about there long term.

 

Coan completed 16-of-24 passes for 160 yards with two touchdowns and no interceptions in only his third ever start. I had my brother say the same thing about the coaching/QB situation but it is way too early to write off Coan who will now keep his redshirt year. There is absolutely no reason Hornibrook ever starts again (other than the bowl game) if we have an emerging Coan and hopefully a stud in Mertz in waiting.

[tmwiese55]

Coan was a highly rated QB recruit as well, 4 stars, top 10. All time NY record holder. And in two years of development how did he look? Something is lacking on the offensive side of the coaching. I'd guess PC needs to get more heavily involved in the offense/QBs again. Call it a demotion of Rudolph or not, idc, but something is up. Of course, I don't for sure his current level of involvement but it seems lacking considering he has a tiny playcard and just how bad the passing game has been since he's been back. Nothing looks like it did under him previously. Bostad should be back to coaching OL again.

 

The D, well they lost a ton of seniors and were massively injured yet generally held their own. Don't see too much to be overly worried about there long term.

 

Coan completed 16-of-24 passes for 160 yards with two touchdowns and no interceptions in only his third ever start. I had my brother say the same thing about the coaching/QB situation but it is way too early to write off Coan who will now keep his redshirt year. There is absolutely no reason Hornibrook ever starts again (other than the bowl game) if we have an emerging Coan and hopefully a stud in Mertz in waiting.

 

Yea I'm all for it as well. You can see the zip on the ball and just he's clearly a better thrower, like if you were just standing around outside throwing balls he's clearly got the better 'arm talent'. I was just pointing it out that in two years he still came in and was basically bad. You can grab one good quarter and grasp to it as at least a positive sign but overall for a top recruit one expects more as we see guys come in all over the country and just wizz it around. Another positive, he didn't throw into triple coverage like Horni does 5 times a game, plus he's mobile. So again, development, playcalling, whatever it was that led to us basically being inept when he (and horni) played is the problem. But when people who don't follow closely go "why not recruit a better QB" I was just saying we have but now we actually have to see it on the field. One of Wolf/Coan/Mertz has to hit and make the passing game legit or these coaches are doing something wrong.

[owbc]

That loss was one of the most embarassing moments of the past 20-25 years that I have been alive and conscious of Badger football. Absolutely pathetic.

 

You must have missed the 63 - 32 loss to Indiana at Camp Randall back in 2001.

 

I was going to say that game against Cal Poly in 2008 but it turns out they actually won that. Might as well have been a loss. That was a 7-win year plus an embarrassing bowl performance.

[PeaveyFury]

but overall for a top recruit one expects more

 

Coan was a solid recruit, yes. But a guy like Mertz is on a different level. Coan was a 3-star in some places, 4-star in others, ranked in the 12-20 range at his position, with an offer sheet that topped out with Wisconsin, Michigan, Louisville, and Miami.

 

Mertz is ranked between 2nd and 4th at his position, 4-star everywhere, and has offers from Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, Notre Dame, Ohio State, etc.

 

That doesn't mean Coan is bad or that Mertz is destined to be great, but it does mean that when fans ask why Wisconsin doesn't get better QB recruits, they've done fine with guys like Coan or Houston in the past, but Mertz is indeed the counterpoint to that argument.

[superfly]

That loss was one of the most embarassing moments of the past 20-25 years that I have been alive and conscious of Badger football. Absolutely pathetic.

 

You must have missed the 63 - 32 loss to Indiana at Camp Randall back in 2001.

 

I was going to say that game against Cal Poly in 2008 but it turns out they actually won that. Might as well have been a loss. That was a 7-win year plus an embarrassing bowl performance.

 

"One of". The Gophers are an atrocious football team...lets not forget they let a winless (and HIDEOUS) Nebraska team hang a 53 burger on them a few weeks back as well as a 55 burger by Illinois soon after. Of course there have been other moments.

[brewcrewdue80]

Most embarrassing loss I can think of late was the Conference Championship game vs Ohio State with their 3rd string QB demolishing what great a defense we thought we had. I thought we were shutout as well. But I probably remember wrong. Its a game I'd rather forget because it was embarrassing

[tmwiese55]

but overall for a top recruit one expects more

 

Coan was a solid recruit, yes. But a guy like Mertz is on a different level. Coan was a 3-star in some places, 4-star in others, ranked in the 12-20 range at his position, with an offer sheet that topped out with Wisconsin, Michigan, Louisville, and Miami.

 

Mertz is ranked between 2nd and 4th at his position, 4-star everywhere, and has offers from Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, Notre Dame, Ohio State, etc.

 

That doesn't mean Coan is bad or that Mertz is destined to be great, but it does mean that when fans ask why Wisconsin doesn't get better QB recruits, they've done fine with guys like Coan or Houston in the past, but Mertz is indeed the counterpoint to that argument.

 

Yea I get that. essentially Coan was their best QB recruit ever before Mertz though. And going back to Houston, yes another legit recruit. We're nitpicking really, all I'm saying is people saying 'these guys aren't good, recruit better' are kind of missing that they have been doing that. A guy like Coan wasn't a stiff in HS like average fans are going to assume watching his play so far, go back and watch his film, had legit high major offers and basically lit up HS similar to Mertz, had crazy HS stats and film. Wolf also had an offer from OSU. So I'm saying you have them, but now they need to be trained, used properly, better play calling, etc to actually get back to a legit passing attack like they had in 2010-11ish. Hornibrook, yea he was just salvaging the coaching transition as best they could. So basically, their last 3 QB recruits are legit in Coan/Wolf/Mertz so they better pop with one of them so fans aren't saying 4 years from now (again) "why can't we get a good QB to come here".

[trwi7]

That loss was one of the most embarassing moments of the past 20-25 years that I have been alive and conscious of Badger football. Absolutely pathetic.

 

You must have missed the 63 - 32 loss to Indiana at Camp Randall back in 2001.

 

I was going to say that game against Cal Poly in 2008 but it turns out they actually won that. Might as well have been a loss. That was a 7-win year plus an embarrassing bowl performance.

 

Cal Poly may have been worse because I'm pretty sure they are/were FCS and I believe they missed several extra points. Game doesn't even get to OT if they make them.

[nodakfan17]

I saw a bowl prediction yesterday that had Wisconsin and Stanford in the Redbox Bowl at Levi’s Stadium on December 31 to be televised on Fox.

[LouisEly]

I saw a bowl prediction yesterday that had Wisconsin and Stanford in the Redbox Bowl at Levi’s Stadium on December 31 to be televised on Fox.

Lovely. Basically a home game for Stanford.

[BrewersSuperCollector]

I saw a bowl prediction yesterday that had Wisconsin and Stanford in the Redbox Bowl at Levi’s Stadium on December 31 to be televised on Fox.

Lovely. Basically a home game for Stanford.

 

Before this last comment I would have had no clue where Levi’s Stadium for the Redbox Bowl would even be located.

[nodakfan17]

Aside from the fact that the 49ers stadium is much closer to Palo Alto than Madison, I think this is the best draw they can realistically hope for:

 

- Power 5 Opponent

- Decent Location (for fans who enjoy travel)

- Network TV

- December 31 (most fans will be off work)

 

It’s not like they deserve better.

[MrTPlush]

I mean I have also seen them as a possibility for the Pinstripe bowl...so it can be worse.

[pacopete4]

I kind of wish the bowl committee wouldn't give in to giving the Badgers better than they deserve this year. Time and time again we end up getting a better bowl game because our fan base travels. Punish us for the putrid season we put together this season for once.

[PlayerHader]

I kind of wish the bowl committee wouldn't give in to giving the Badgers better than they deserve this year. Time and time again we end up getting a better bowl game because our fan base travels. Punish us for the putrid season we put together this season for once.

 

Do you have examples of us getting better bowl games than we deserve because of our fan base traveling?

 

I'd say that IF that has been the case, it has typically been in years where 3 B1G teams have been in BCS/New Years 6 bowls, bumping other programs up a notch on the bowl assignment chart.

[trwi7]

I saw a bowl prediction yesterday that had Wisconsin and Stanford in the Redbox Bowl at Levi’s Stadium on December 31 to be televised on Fox.

Lovely. Basically a home game for Stanford.

 

Stanford was 10,000+ seats short of selling out against Wazzu this year and almost 10,000 short of selling out against USC early in the season when Stanford was ranked in the top 10 and USC was rated in the top 20. Not really concerned about the Badgers facing a hostile crowd. The only way it would be hostile is if Badger fans saw a performance similar to the one against Minnesota.

[Fear The Chorizo]

The Brewers' 2018 season coupled with the Badgers' and Packers' disappointing years sure has solidified football at the bottom of my list of sports entertainment I actively follow.

 

Kiddos have alot to do with it, but I'd guess I've watched about 10X more 'Tru and the Rainbow Kingdom' programming in terms of actual time logged in front of a TV than Packer & Badger games combined this fall - and the kiddos don't have much time at all to watch a show between dinner and bedtimes! It didn't help that the Packers' NFL season kicked off with several unwatchable game outcomes due to officiating nonsense and typical early season McCarthy-led team underachievement, and the Badgers wasted no time in proving to be posers with the BYU loss just as the Crew was on fire in late September.

[PlayerHader]

The Brewers' 2018 season coupled with the Badgers' and Packers' disappointing years sure has solidified football at the bottom of my list of sports entertainment I actively follow.

 

Kiddos have alot to do with it, but I'd guess I've watched about 10X more 'Tru and the Rainbow Kingdom' programming in terms of actual time logged in front of a TV than Packer & Badger games combined this fall - and the kiddos don't have much time at all to watch a show between dinner and bedtimes! It didn't help that the Packers' NFL season kicked off with several unwatchable game outcomes due to officiating nonsense and typical early season McCarthy-led team underachievement, and the Badgers wasted no time in proving to be posers with the BYU loss just as the Crew was on fire in late September.

 

It's strange you felt compelled to make a post like this in a thread about Badger football.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

The Brewers' 2018 season coupled with the Badgers' and Packers' disappointing years sure has solidified football at the bottom of my list of sports entertainment I actively follow.

 

Kiddos have alot to do with it, but I'd guess I've watched about 10X more 'Tru and the Rainbow Kingdom' programming in terms of actual time logged in front of a TV than Packer & Badger games combined this fall - and the kiddos don't have much time at all to watch a show between dinner and bedtimes! It didn't help that the Packers' NFL season kicked off with several unwatchable game outcomes due to officiating nonsense and typical early season McCarthy-led team underachievement, and the Badgers wasted no time in proving to be posers with the BYU loss just as the Crew was on fire in late September.

 

It's strange you felt compelled to make a post like this in a thread about Badger football.

 

Not so much I think. The Badgers, considering their preseason hype, are a bigger disappointment than the Packers this year.

[Fear The Chorizo]

The Brewers' 2018 season coupled with the Badgers' and Packers' disappointing years sure has solidified football at the bottom of my list of sports entertainment I actively follow.

 

Kiddos have alot to do with it, but I'd guess I've watched about 10X more 'Tru and the Rainbow Kingdom' programming in terms of actual time logged in front of a TV than Packer & Badger games combined this fall - and the kiddos don't have much time at all to watch a show between dinner and bedtimes! It didn't help that the Packers' NFL season kicked off with several unwatchable game outcomes due to officiating nonsense and typical early season McCarthy-led team underachievement, and the Badgers wasted no time in proving to be posers with the BYU loss just as the Crew was on fire in late September.

 

It's strange you felt compelled to make a post like this in a thread about Badger football.

 

Why, when I specifically mention the Badgers' disappointing season several times within it?

[PlayerHader]

Because your post was about you, not Badger football. You came to a Badger football thread to tell everyone you have little interest in football this fall.

 

It just seemed strange.

[pacopete4]

Because your post was about you, not Badger football. You came to a Badger football thread to tell everyone you have little interest in football this fall.

 

It just seemed strange.

 

This is more strange than anything he said.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Because your post was about you, not Badger football. You came to a Badger football thread to tell everyone you have little interest in football this fall.

 

It just seemed strange.

 

He doesn't have interest because the Badgers are bad. I think stating that basically he lost interest because the Badgers did not even come close to meeting expectations, and are a bad football team, is pretty on point.

[MrTPlush]

I mean I have also seen them as a possibility for the Pinstripe bowl...so it can be worse.

 

See, this is what you get for complaining!

 

Rematch from the Orange Bowl (boring) and two teams that absolutely flopped to embarrassing finishes (woo...). Not many will get pumped for that.

[JosephC]

Have to agree with the word "boring" when looking at the bowl matchup. I can't imagine this will excite anybody in Madison.