2018 Wisconsin Badgers football

[long ball]

I don't know what to make of the case against Cephus. I don't see any motivation for these women to make false claims against him. In general, false claims of rape are rare.

[tmwiese55]

I don't know what to make of the case against Cephus. I don't see any motivation for these women to make false claims against him. In general, false claims of rape are rare.

 

Generally agree. At the very least one would assume something very shady went on even if not technically illegal or is some gray area. The only thing I can think of that would lead to them pushing these allegations would be pressure from their lawyer parents (if untrue/exaggerated, obviously if it's true that would lead to it too). The pure guess scenario, they or one of them end up at the hospital super drunk like that and parents are called to help. They tell the story in a way to make themselves sound completely innocent, parents get ticked off and want to get the guy. Again, I have no idea. Maybe they are telling the complete truth to their recollection. I just generally agree with you that it doesn't make sense to make this up or exaggerate as it is kind of seeming, so that's the only scenario popping into my head that could lead down this road.

[LouisEly]

The only thing I can think of that would lead to them pushing these allegations would be pressure from their lawyer parents.

That's what I'm hearing - there is external pressure to press charges. Not sure if it's the parents, but someone with some stroke is pressing hard for it.

 

Now the hearing is delayed until 9/11. Wonder if that means Davis gets suspended for an additional game. They might be being cautious with Davis and not wanting to risk playing him if he ends up getting in more trouble. Not sure where the line is in having to forfeit games with players who are accused of something and later end up getting found guilty.

[nate82]

Only the first half of the first game but the D-Line looks weak. Absolutely no push at all.

 

WR and TE look weak also.

 

Somewhat concerned that the Badgers are not going to play with the top teams unless Hornibrook is perfect. Badgers need to find another weapon on offense.

[stoutdude04]

Friend of mine works for madison pd... says the girl that is in the middle of all of this has accused other members of the team before. Take that for what its worth.

 

Also said...there's a lot to the story that hasn't been published.

[FVBrewerFan]

Friend of mine works for madison pd... says the girl that is in the middle of all of this has accused other members of the team before. Game that for what worth.

 

Also said...there's a lot to the story that hasn't been published.

 

I have heard some things as well. I will just add that the me too movement while great in bringing attention to abuse, the side effect is some with an agenda really stretching the definition of consent.

[pacopete4]

So these girls did it to other players but Cephus and co were dumb enough to be alone with them?

[trwi7]

I guess I don't know why they would press charges if there wasn't evidence of wrongdoing. Something obviously happened, whether it's as bad as the charges, I don't know but it seems like something, probably illegal went on that night.

[superfly]

I guess I don't know why they would press charges if there wasn't evidence of wrongdoing. Something obviously happened, whether it's as bad as the charges, I don't know but it seems like something, probably illegal went on that night.

 

Agenda driven people do alot of weird things. Duke lacrosse team says hi.

[homer]

Only the first half of the first game but the D-Line looks weak. Absolutely no push at all.

 

WR and TE look weak also.

 

Somewhat concerned that the Badgers are not going to play with the top teams unless Hornibrook is perfect. Badgers need to find another weapon on offense.

 

D Line is missing Laudermilk, they played vanilla the whole game (almost no blitzing). WR missing Davis. TE weak? I thought Ferguson was pretty good.

 

UW almost always starts out slow for whatever reason. They'll be fine come Big Ten opener.

[Jenkins5]

Badgers offense is nothing to worry about. Ferguson is a big playmaking TE like Fum. Developing still but kid can play! Our top 2 WRs out hurts but still Pryor & Taylor are real good receivers.

 

DL & DBs are the two groups on team that can make you a little nervous due to the high turnover & lack of experience but they have kids with talent. Dixon & Olive are studs & great leaders for each of those groups.

[nate82]

 

D Line is missing Laudermilk, they played vanilla the whole game (almost no blitzing). WR missing Davis. TE weak? I thought Ferguson was pretty good.

 

UW almost always starts out slow for whatever reason. They'll be fine come Big Ten opener.

 

That is why I said only the first half of the first game of the year. TE looked weak during the game no separation like the WR when running their routes. I like Ferguson but he didn't look all that impressive in the first half maybe it was more to do with Hornibrook than him.

 

I am still rather nervous with the offense and Hornibrook at QB. If he continues to just air out the ball under throwing the ball with a lot of air under it, this could be a long season. It looks like Hornibrook is still playing QB at HS where you are putting more air under the ball and the WR rather than throwing spirals and line drives to your WR.

 

This is what is wrong with Hornibrook he is lofting his throws to much which is allowing defenders to make plays on passes they shouldn't be able to. This is going to hurt the Badgers against teams like Michigan and Ohio State as they are going to be able to stack the line knowing that Hornibrook is just going to be lofting balls instead of driving them to his WR allowing their DB's to cover more ground.

[Baldkin]

 

D Line is missing Laudermilk, they played vanilla the whole game (almost no blitzing). WR missing Davis. TE weak? I thought Ferguson was pretty good.

 

UW almost always starts out slow for whatever reason. They'll be fine come Big Ten opener.

 

That is why I said only the first half of the first game of the year. TE looked weak during the game no separation like the WR when running their routes. I like Ferguson but he didn't look all that impressive in the first half maybe it was more to do with Hornibrook than him.

 

I am still rather nervous with the offense and Hornibrook at QB. If he continues to just air out the ball under throwing the ball with a lot of air under it, this could be a long season. It looks like Hornibrook is still playing QB at HS where you are putting more air under the ball and the WR rather than throwing spirals and line drives to your WR.

 

This is what is wrong with Hornibrook he is lofting his throws to much which is allowing defenders to make plays on passes they shouldn't be able to. This is going to hurt the Badgers against teams like Michigan and Ohio State as they are going to be able to stack the line knowing that Hornibrook is just going to be lofting balls instead of driving them to his WR allowing their DB's to cover more ground.

 

Hornibrook doesn't have a strong arm. That's why he throws that way. He also lacks the ability to anticipate routes beyond 10 yards so his throws are always late.

 

That said, he could very well end up holding every single Wisconsin career QB record by the time he's done.

[pacopete4]

Woof. Badgers playing a stinker so far.

[pacopete4]

Woof. Badgers playing a stinker so far.

 

Very happy they pulled it together in the second half. I really do not like when we come out with no real plan to throw throw the football. Both running and passing games need to find rythym. It’s the coaching staffs job to find ways to make that happen.

[OldHeidelberg]

NM run defense was so bad I actually thought the Badgers screwed up every time they threw, but the play action started working eventually. Big day for AJ Taylor, I had thought of him as just an OK receiver coming into the season but like a lot of Badgers starting to shine as he spends more time in the system. I didn't see last weeks game and was worried about the D after that first drive but they looked good overall.

[PeaveyFury]

The team has a history of starting slow, dating back to the past season or two. I'm hoping each of these games builds confidence for both the offense and the very young secondary. In both games so far, the adjustments made have led to success, but if you start slow against a team like Iowa or Michigan on the road, you may dig a hole that you're unable to get out of.

 

Having Davis back this week will be significant, I'd expect. Hoping for a clean, sharp win over BYU, then on to a big matchup vs. Iowa that likely already determines the frontrunner in the B1G West.

[bani1717]

I feel like it’s hard to draw too many conclusions from these non-conference games against weak opponents. Obviously the Badgers (like other good P5) teams are playing to win, but against a clearly inferior opponent it’s not like the Chryst or Leonhard are going to pull too much out of the playbook. It seems like the goal in these games is more so to come away with a clear win (not too close of a game) while also allowing your team the opportunity to execute as a team against a different team in a game situation. I think of it as somewhere between an NFL preseason game and a regular season game in terms of coaching strategy.

[bjkrautk]

I was at the game, but I'm curious as to what the heck happened on Hornibrook's fumblinterception? If we got a replay of it on the scoreboard, I was too irritated to see it.

 

I'm guessing he lost the grip on the ball, and came forward with little more than an open hand. Really glad it wasn't a better opponent, since the Badgers just wore them out over the course of the game.

[owbc]

I feel like it’s hard to draw too many conclusions from these non-conference games against weak opponents. Obviously the Badgers (like other good P5) teams are playing to win, but against a clearly inferior opponent it’s not like the Chryst or Leonhard are going to pull too much out of the playbook. It seems like the goal in these games is more so to come away with a clear win (not too close of a game) while also allowing your team the opportunity to execute as a team against a different team in a game situation. I think of it as somewhere between an NFL preseason game and a regular season game in terms of coaching strategy.

 

Exactly. I stopped watching the non-conference games entirely. Wisconsin gets a glorified scrimmage and the opponent gets a paycheck. There is zero incentive to schedule better nonconference games. Washington managed to knock themselves (and possibly their entire conference) out of the playoff in week 1. (Of course the pundits would never say that, but there's no way a 1-loss Pac 12 team gets in).

[tmwiese55]

Yup, everyone that freaks out that teams need to play tough non conference games for SOS to make the playoffs is just wrong. If you win out or have 1 loss while winning your conference title game you're almost for sure in the playoffs. Why make it tougher scheduling Bama, LSU, ND, etc to start every year. Or in your example, Washington playing Auburn did nothing for them. If they play Miami of Ohio instead they're fine. It's great for competition, entertainment, exposure, and generating money to play big games like that but it only hurts your chances of making the playoffs.

[owbc]

Yup, everyone that freaks out that teams need to play tough non conference games for SOS to make the playoffs is just wrong. If you win out or have 1 loss while winning your conference title game you're almost for sure in the playoffs. Why make it tougher scheduling Bama, LSU, ND, etc to start every year. Or in your example, Washington playing Auburn did nothing for them. If they play Miami of Ohio instead they're fine. It's great for competition, entertainment, exposure, and generating money to play big games like that but it only hurts your chances of making the playoffs.

 

One of the other unwritten rules is that SOS only matters if you have a low preseason ranking. Alabama has 'earned' the right to play a softer SOS.

[tmwiese55]

Yes that's true. And I grant the argument could've been more back when it was only two teams and based on a computer formula. But now, as long as you win your conf title game with 1 loss or less you're almost a lock to make it barring something really unlucky.

[Jenkins5]

I personally loved LSU match up & the upcoming Notre Dame. As a coach, we schedule a tough non conference schedule. We run our conference pretty easy so to prepare for state we want to battle test ourselves & teach kids to battle a bit. I think the soft non conference schedule hurts them with most of the West not being very good. When you get to those tough games you are less prepared & battle tested.

 

However, high school you have playoffs so a D5 or 6 team losing to a D2 or D3 school or another elite state contender in close game doesn’t hurt you at all. In college system 1 or 2 loses can cost you a shot. You lose to LSU & say Penn St. you may be off to Capital One Bowl. So I understand that argument and risk of tough schedule

[tmwiese55]

Yea I had an absolute blast at both LSU games and let's be real, the chances of UW winning it all is slim to none anyway so I'm all for these types of things for the entertainment/fun aspects of it all. The ND game at Lambeau should be great. Soldier Field I'm not too thrilled about but at least it's better than playing New Mexico at 11 am.