Tyler Glasnow

[A Swing and A Drive]

What would it take for the Brewers to acquire him from the Pirates?

 

The Pirates can afford to include Josh Harrison in a potential deal with us as well, and open up a spot at 2B for Adam Frazier.

 

Tyler Glasnow has had control issues at the MLB level but if he ever figures it out...I think he could be an rare ACE.

 

Take a look at his minor league numbers the last 3 seasons.

 

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=607192#/career/R/pitching/2018/ALL

 

Add to that he's 24 and MLB-ready.

 

I realize that this is the type of player that the now re-building Pirates aren't likely looking to trade, but he's the type of young player with a ceiling the Brewers desperately need.

 

Burnes, Woodruff, Ortiz all profile more as mid-rotation type starters and none are guaranteed to be even that.

 

I would trade Corey Ray, either Woodruff or Ortiz, and a low level prospect for Glasnow without hesitation.

[chuckiehacks]

I would trade Corey Ray, either Woodruff or Ortiz, and a low level prospect for Glasnow without hesitation.

 

Why would Pittsburgh do that?

[Dadbauer]

Pirates aren't really tanking - they just added Dickerson. They have a chance to be sneaky good.

[TJH123]

Pirates aren't really tanking - they just added Dickerson. They have a chance to be sneaky good.

 

I disagree, they wouldn’t have trade away the face of their franchise in McCutchen as well as their ace in Cole if they weren’t tanking imo. This looks like nothing more than an appease the angry fans move to me.

[Dadbauer]

McCutchen was the face of the franchise, yes, but also making 10 million more than Dickerson who was only slightly worse offensively last season.

[TJH123]

Yeah McCutchn is on the decline anyways, but I really don’t get the Cole trade at all if they’re looking to contend. He doesnt have much left on his contract but still. Did they ever try to extend him?

[Dadbauer]

I get the sense from Pirates fans that their owner is pretty adverse to spending money - look at how they were a few years ago and instead of adding anyone they really just stood pat and hoped for the best. I don't think Cole was all that great (sure, he'd be good to have, but he's not an elite arm or anything) and they probably didn't want to extend him and sent him out to at least get some prospects. I really don't see them as "tanking" even though I doubt they are serious about competing. They didn't do horrible last year, there was a time when they were in the wild card conversation.

[DocLuna7]

I really doubt that Pittsburgh is willing to trade Glasnow. Seems like the perfect season to see what they have in him.

[brewcrewdue80]

Glasnow's value if I put in relation to Milw would be the idea to trade Hader but two times Hader's value. Glasnow would be like Max Scherzer given up in trade. 

 

Why trade away Cole? He's not an Ace level pitcher, more expensive near ending of contract. Another below expectations season and his trade value while costing more equals poor garbage return.

[JosephC]

I would trade Corey Ray, either Woodruff or Ortiz, and a low level prospect for Glasnow without hesitation.

 

OK, I'm willing to play the Pirates. How about throwing 4-6 names out there as the "low level prospect" you'd be willing to include.

[brewcrewdue80]

I would trade Corey Ray, either Woodruff or Ortiz, and a low level prospect for Glasnow without hesitation.

 

OK, I'm willing to play the Pirates. How about throwing 4-6 names out there as the "low level prospect" you'd be willing to include.

 

I'll do it for him. Burnes or Hiura. Erceg or Lutz with the Woodruff/Ortiz and Grisham over Ray. yeah

 

Maybe that doesn't get hung up on. This is a top 10 prospect-ACE ceiling trading within the division. I may have to toss Grisham/Ray and put Peralta on the offer. Or it's Burnes/Hiura, Erceg, Woodruff/Ortiz and Lutz or Peralta.

 

Understand his AAA ERA in 245IP is 1.95. All it takes is for him to reduce his BBs/9 at the ML level and he'll be a TOR starter from that day forward. Like I said, this is Max Scherzer in the making.

 

Edit. I want to add that his AAA BB/9 were 3.1. I'm very certain as I owned him in Fantasy, this better BB rate occurred as he began pitching strictly from the stretch. The results in AAA last year show what I am talking about becoming a Scherzer future.

[A Swing and A Drive]

I agree with Brewcrewdue80 that having the Pirates sell low on Glasnow within the division was a bit of a pipe dream, I suppose.

 

I was just looking at it as a potential "prospect" buy low opportunity for the Brewers if indeed the Pirates have grown frustrated with Tyler's development at the MLB level.

 

Glasnow represents the type of high ceiling starting pitching prospect the Brewers simply have not had in their system since perhaps Ben Sheets (or maybe Yovani).

 

I'm a huge fan of Corbin Burnes pitchability, but he still only has the ceiling of a mid-rotation starter IMO. Same goes for Woodruff and Ortiz, etc.

 

The Brewers picking Corey Ray one pick before Oakland nabbed A.J. Puk seems like it will come back to haunt them.

 

If...

 

A. Brewers don't draft/develop high ceiling pitchers

B. Teams rarely trade pitching prospects with high, top of the rotation ceilings

C. Brewers can't sign Free Agent TOR starters, but only mid-rotation types (i.e. Cobb, Lynn)

 

Then I really am concerned with the Brewers chances of getting deep into the playoffs in the next 5 years, even if they get there.

 

Trade deadline deals for established ACES like Greinke or Sabathia during a season that the Brewers seem playoff bound may be the only route to go it seems.

 

Outside of that, I think Stearns has to somehow pull off the type of trade where he gives up "the farm" to land a controllable young TOR starter like Archer, Stroman, etc. And those trade opportunities are few and far between, IMO.

[JosephC]

I would trade Corey Ray, either Woodruff or Ortiz, and a low level prospect for Glasnow without hesitation.

 

OK, I'm willing to play the Pirates. How about throwing 4-6 names out there as the "low level prospect" you'd be willing to include.

[DocLuna7]

I agree with Brewcrewdue80 that having the Pirates sell low on Glasnow within the division was a bit of a pipe dream, I suppose.

 

I was just looking at it as a potential "prospect" buy low opportunity for the Brewers if indeed the Pirates have grown frustrated with Tyler's development at the MLB level.

 

Glasnow represents the type of high ceiling starting pitching prospect the Brewers simply have not had in their system since perhaps Ben Sheets (or maybe Yovani).

 

I'm a huge fan of Corbin Burnes pitchability, but he still only has the ceiling of a mid-rotation starter IMO. Same goes for Woodruff and Ortiz, etc.

 

The Brewers picking Corey Ray one pick before Oakland nabbed A.J. Puk seems like it will come back to haunt them.

 

If...

 

A. Brewers don't draft/develop high ceiling pitchers

B. Teams rarely trade pitching prospects with high, top of the rotation ceilings

C. Brewers can't sign Free Agent TOR starters, but only mid-rotation types (i.e. Cobb, Lynn)

 

Then I really am concerned with the Brewers chances of getting deep into the playoffs in the next 5 years, even if they get there.

 

Trade deadline deals for established ACES like Greinke or Sabathia during a season that the Brewers seem playoff bound may be the only route to go it seems.

 

Outside of that, I think Stearns has to somehow pull off the type of trade where he gives up "the farm" to land a controllable young TOR starter like Archer, Stroman, etc. And those trade opportunities are few and far between, IMO.

 

Doesn’t your trade proposal for Glasnow kind of give up the farm anyways? I think we do tend to overvalue our prospects but perhaps other Gm’s do too