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Where does Lucroy get an offer from? He wants a contender but I'm not sure there's a team that is in contending mode for him.
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might he do better here based on familiarity?

 

I'm not on the bandwagon to sign him, but if it was cheap enough, couple million a year, it wouldn't hurt, as long as it wasn't for 3 years or more. Ideally, a one year deal, 2 at most.

 

I agree with most, he is declining, and doubt he is even a shell of his former self, but if the situation presented itself for the right cost and length, I'd kick the tires for certain.

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Sure, but I guess the idea is that he was still 2017 Lucroy in that small sample on the road. His bump up in production was the Coors effect that any other player that contacts the baseball well has, probably. Small enough sample that we'll never know, but just saying his time on the Rockies does not sway me that he "figured it out" again.

 

Fair enough. There is just some middle ground between the “Lucroy of old” and the poor 1st half he had in Texas.

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Sure, but I guess the idea is that he was still 2017 Lucroy in that small sample on the road. His bump up in production was the Coors effect that any other player that contacts the baseball well has, probably. Small enough sample that we'll never know, but just saying his time on the Rockies does not sway me that he "figured it out" again.

 

Fair enough. There is just some middle ground between the “Lucroy of old” and the poor 1st half he had in Texas.

 

Agree. He's had a season like last season before and bounced back. I don't see him as bad as his '17 nor as good as his '16. He went bonkers after the trade to TEX in '16 too that skewed his numbers. It wouldn't shock me if he came close to his MIL '16 slash of .299/.359/.482 (that's not a prediction), though that .482 SLG might be out of range.

 

I just don't see much chance of that happening as a Brewer, just don't see him choosing to come to the Brewers, at a discount, to play 2nd fiddle or even a 50/50 time share. No way.

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Where does Lucroy get an offer from? He wants a contender but I'm not sure there's a team that is in contending mode for him.

 

Nats. He’s better than Wieters

I agree that Washington is a good fit for Lucroy. Other teams that might be interested could be Houston, the Mets, Boston, Seattle. But none of those are great fits. Each team has options - just might be they like Lucroy better. And he wouldn't necessarily get a full time gig.

 

I am not clamoring to have Lucroy back, but I'd certainly take him over Vogt. A Lucroy/Pina platoon would be good.

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With an injury to Vogt, it's at least within the realm of possibility we may upgrade at catcher. Vogt's biggest downfall is his throwing arm, and after working on it all winter he is now out 2-3 weeks with a shoulder strain.

 

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With an injury to Vogt, it's at least within the realm of possibility we may upgrade at catcher. Vogt's biggest downfall is his throwing arm, and after working on it all winter he is now out 2-3 weeks with a shoulder strain.

 

"Don't you ... forget about me." - Jett Bandy

 

Jett - Don't forget your bat (out of hell) this year then.

 

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This will be an interesting thread to bring up later this year. If we roll with Bandy and Pina and they stink while Lucroy was just sitting there all offseason... I don't know.
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Bandy gave us -.6WAR in 60 games. Vogt gave us .3WAR in 45 games but was -.5 in 54 for Oakland. Just add to Pina's workload and Games started, let Bandy play the 2-4 games he will catch for that stretch. Pina hadn't occurred his workload previously. Now you can give him another 15-20 starts so up to 100 and just need 62 games from your backup.
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If Pina were to get hurt though you'd be in a world of hurt.

 

I like Lucroy and he ended up so drastically underpaid on his contract that I'm rooting for him to put some money in the bank. But on the other hand as a fan, I'd be happy if a very reasonable 1-2 year deal with us is the best he can do so he takes it.

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Has Lucroy's name been mentioned in any rumor anywhere this offseason? I seem to remember very early there was some talk about resigning with Colorado but I can't think of anything else. I'm not really a fan of his but he's still a top 10 catcher in baseball, maybe higher. Collusion or not, the top guys are at least being rumored somewhere but it seems like total crickets for ole Jonny.
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Has Lucroy's name been mentioned in any rumor anywhere this offseason? I seem to remember very early there was some talk about resigning with Colorado but I can't think of anything else. I'm not really a fan of his but he's still a top 10 catcher in baseball, maybe higher. Collusion or not, the top guys are at least being rumored somewhere but it seems like total crickets for ole Jonny.

 

Those crickets are likely the clearest indication that Lucroy is no longer a top 10 catcher in baseball...

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I’d take 60-80 games of Lucroy. We have no way of knowing how Pina will hold up offensively or defensively over an entire season. It’s not like he’s young—he turns 31 this season. How many catchers in the majors can handle the workload for 100+ games in their 30s without seeing some diminishing performance.
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Even though I think it would be a very wise decision, I just don't see the Brewers bringing Lucroy back. To quote Mark Murphy the Brewers have "crossed the Rubicon."

 

For reference, you don’t really need to say that in quotes. It’s a common expression. Mark Murphy may be the 10 millionth person to say that.

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I'd imagine Luc is going to want to sign sooner than later. The basic idea is you want to give your catchers more time to learn the team's pitchers and so forth. It's just not as simple as being a first baseman or pitcher or whatever.

 

As people have noted, the market has been quiet for Lucroy. I never thought he'd be out of work like this.

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Yeah, I'm pretty shocked, honestly. I haven't been an advocate of signing Luc but at this point if he wanted to sign for 1/$5 I would pull the trigger and send Vogt packing.

 

Agreed. I've been very anti-lucroy as well...but having him and Pina in a somewhat even timeshare would add a lot of value and would be very cheap. I have to think someone else(Astros, Nationals) are willing to beat that offer, but hard to know. I would like to think Stearns is at minimum monitoring the market...as he's done with just about everyone. I think C might be a bigger need than 2b with Vogt getting hurt and the 2b options looking solid thusfar.

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