Marcus Stroman

[jjfanec]

If it were to happen I would be supportive and would enjoy watching him throw but this is the type of trade I am not in favor of. We are still in the rebuild. Trading for Yelich was a good move in theory because you are replacing the hopeful long term solution at a position (Brinson) with an actual long term solution at the same position (Yelich) while not yielding too much of other hopeful long term solutions, if that makes sense at all.

 

Trading Santana is fine because our outfield is set and replacing one hopeful LTS (say Burnes) with the real thing (Stroman) is fine but this would cost us a couple of other big pieces that we are not immediately replacing. Losing 2 top 5 guys (along with Santana) in our system is too steep I think given our current position.

 

A rotation of Stroman, Anderson, Nelson, Davies, and Chacin and bullpen with Knebel and Hader is definitely enough to compete now. They are all young enough and controlled long enough that the window is a few years not one or two. That staff with Yelich, Cain, Braun, Shaw and others will win quite a few games

[Madhawk23]

Well, that was a fun 5 minutes while it lasted! Thanks for the buzzkill Jose! Ha.

[jjfanec]

Stroman was in Phoenix for an Arbitration hearing which also was the genesis of his tweet about baseball being a business.

 

Probably time to cool the jets on this rumor.

 

Buzzkill

[trwi7]

Everyone keeps saying we need a TOR pitcher

 

This is an underrated post.

[pacopete4]

[sarcasm]And we wonder why we get made fun of on the Cubs boards.[/sarcasm]

 

All kidding aside, Stroman would be so fun to have in a Brewers uniform but it really doesn't make a lot of sense for Toronto to move him right now. Maybe at the halfway point if/when they are out of it. Unless they want to do a total rebuild.

[Roderick]

Stroman will be 27 this year and is arby this year and the next two years, right? So the Brewers would be trading for three years of service, at escalating arby prices.

 

Did they go to arbitration with him yet for this year's cost?

 

I would start the negotiations with Santana, and one of Woodruff/Burnes/Ortiz/Peralta, plus any two other players in the system not named Hiura or Lutz and see how that goes. They could have Broxton too, but I consider Phillips the 4th OF for next year.

 

Maybe Toronto would really like Ray or Erceg or someone else and that would make the deal closer than one would guess. At minimum, Santana would be in the majors right away, so the club can show the fans it isn't all for tomorrow. And the pitcher could be in majors or very close.

[MKEguy]

[sarcasm]And we wonder why we get made fun of on the Cubs boards.[/sarcasm]

 

All kidding aside, Stroman would be so fun to have in a Brewers uniform but it really doesn't make a lot of sense for Toronto to move him right now. Maybe at the halfway point if/when they are out of it. Unless they want to do a total rebuild.

 

I think it’s been noted that Stroman has been discussed as a mid season option, as DS is already poking around at teams that may be out of it, like the blue jays and mariners.

[Madhawk23]

OK - so even though there probably isn't much truth to this Stroman rumor - let's play along anyway.

 

Why don't we trade Hiura, Woodruff, Peralta and Carmona to Toronto for Stroman. Then go out and sign Arrieta, and just go all-in on this thing!

 

Then, turn around and trade Santana to Arizona for Pavin Smith and Jon Duplantier to replenish some of the farm system.

 

Yay or nay?

[Madhawk23]

OK - so even though there probably isn't much truth to this Stroman rumor - let's play along anyway.

 

Why don't we trade Hiura, Woodruff, Peralta and Carmona to Toronto for Stroman. Then go out and sign Arrieta, and just go all-in on this thing!

 

Then, turn around and trade Santana to Arizona for Pavin Smith and Jon Duplantier to replenish some of the farm system.

 

Yay or nay?

 

I mean, how much fun could a Stroman, Arrieta, Anderson, Davies, Chacin rotation be? Then, you'd have plenty of time to bring Jimmy back slowly - and if he's completely healthy come June/July, then he slips into the rotation wherever there is a need (either performance based or due to an injury to one of the five), and you may not even need to go out and get much pitching help at the deadline?

 

OK, I'm going to stop dreaming now.

[homer]

Everyone keeps saying we need a TOR pitcher

 

This is an underrated post.

 

Agreed. We need a thumbs up thingy on here.

[HighHeat19]

FYI, regarding HH, on Al's Ramblings (assuming he's talking to the real HH), he's saying he's still not on Twitter as well:

 

FYI, none of the Twitter accounts that have High Heat's handle on them are him. Even the ones I follow. He chose to contact me to get the word out.

http://albethke.blogspot.com/

 

I can only be heard on Al's Rambling's now.

 

The HH19 Twitter's out there are all fakes.

[bill hAll Star]

Even if it costs less than Archer, it had better cost a very small amount in prospect capital, or I'd rather just overpay one of the free agents.

[pacopete4]

FYI, regarding HH, on Al's Ramblings (assuming he's talking to the real HH), he's saying he's still not on Twitter as well:

 

FYI, none of the Twitter accounts that have High Heat's handle on them are him. Even the ones I follow. He chose to contact me to get the word out.

http://albethke.blogspot.com/

 

I can only be heard on Al's Rambling's now.

 

The HH19 Twitter's out there are all fakes.

 

Just curious as to why that blog?

[brooks_quichenick]

FYI, regarding HH, on Al's Ramblings (assuming he's talking to the real HH), he's saying he's still not on Twitter as well:

 

FYI, none of the Twitter accounts that have High Heat's handle on them are him. Even the ones I follow. He chose to contact me to get the word out.

http://albethke.blogspot.com/

 

I can only be heard on Al's Rambling's now.

 

The HH19 Twitter's out there are all fakes.

 

So is that blog just some random right-wing guy posting things from twitter about Trump? Where's the baseball info?

[bill hAll Star]

FYI, regarding HH, on Al's Ramblings (assuming he's talking to the real HH), he's saying he's still not on Twitter as well:

 

FYI, none of the Twitter accounts that have High Heat's handle on them are him. Even the ones I follow. He chose to contact me to get the word out.

http://albethke.blogspot.com/

 

I can only be heard on Al's Rambling's now.

 

The HH19 Twitter's out there are all fakes.

 

Man, that's a cauldron of takes over there.

[chuckiehacks]

 

Man, that's a cauldron of takes over there.

 

That's a great band name.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

FYI, regarding HH, on Al's Ramblings (assuming he's talking to the real HH), he's saying he's still not on Twitter as well:

 

FYI, none of the Twitter accounts that have High Heat's handle on them are him. Even the ones I follow. He chose to contact me to get the word out.

http://albethke.blogspot.com/

 

I can only be heard on Al's Rambling's now.

 

The HH19 Twitter's out there are all fakes.

 

Well, they say imitation is the finest form of flattery. So I guess you should be flattered?

 

I know the offseason is boring, particularly this year, but seriously, are there really fans out there who are ... um ... this? Although I do have to say that @High_Heat_19 is pretty spot on as far as impersonations go. The dead giveaway that it isn't you, though, is everything speculated on there is piggybacking off other insider posts.

[Madhawk23]

HH19 - I suppose you wouldn't take a few minutes while you are here to give us all an update on where things stand with the FA pitchers and any recent trade discussions?

[B2k1121]

FYI, regarding HH, on Al's Ramblings (assuming he's talking to the real HH), he's saying he's still not on Twitter as well:

 

FYI, none of the Twitter accounts that have High Heat's handle on them are him. Even the ones I follow. He chose to contact me to get the word out.

http://albethke.blogspot.com/

That blog gave me cancer.

[HighHeat19]

HH19 - I suppose you wouldn't take a few minutes while you are here to give us all an update on where things stand with the FA pitchers and any recent trade discussions?

 

Sorry, but there were a few people on here who ruined that opportunity.

[Point Beer Is Best]

Didn’t Al used to be a fixture of this site, posting under the username “Dad of Andrew” or something like that? This is going back probably 15 years.

[chuckiehacks]

Didn’t Al used to be a fixture of this site, posting under the username “Dad of Andrew” or something like that? This is going back probably 15 years.

He was definitely a poster here in the old days.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Didn’t Al used to be a fixture of this site, posting under the username “Dad of Andrew” or something like that? This is going back probably 15 years.

 

I think you're right. He was "Al The Thinking Man" as well.

[StCroixCtyBrewer]

HH19 - I suppose you wouldn't take a few minutes while you are here to give us all an update on where things stand with the FA pitchers and any recent trade discussions?

 

Sorry, but there were a few people on here who ruined that opportunity.

I respect that you stand your ground, I do. It does seem like the positive far outweighed the negative in terms of support for you though.

[Madhawk23]

Speaking of "old," does anyone else love the fact that the home page here still has a story on a Shea Vucinich in the lead spot! I realize that this site is just used as a fan forum now, but I remember the days when they actually used to write stories on prospects here - and the home page always gives me that reminder. And I'm pretty sure that Shea Vucinich has to love that his name will live on for years here on the BF.net home page!