Trade for “Lesser Pitcher” (Jharel Cotton / Jake Odorizzi)

[monty57]

I don't think they are really in on anyone bit or small. They are going into spring training telling guys they have a shot at starting and then what? They sing a different guy and tick everyone off? What you see is what you are going to get.

 

That's baseball, and these guys are professionals that get that. I doubt Stearns is worried about what Gallardo or Miley thinks if they sign Cobb.

That'd be a pretty poopy way to go about your business. You need filler FA's to sign for depth and none will if you make it a standard practice to lie to them about their opportunities. I highly doubt that doesn't factor in at some level. I'd put the chances of a significant pitching acquisition at about 40% right now.

 

I highly doubt that anyone was lied to. Telling the media that they're comfortable with what they have is standard practice for teams looking to make a move.

 

When a veteran signs a non-guaranteed deal with an invitation to camp, no one is telling them that they're a shoo-in for a spot. They know they're running out of chances to prove themselves. They only signed with the Brewers because they knew the Brewers were trying to improve their final rotation spot, so it would make sense that if in trying to improve that spot they would trade for or sign a more talented player if possible.

[brewcrewdue80]

Random Question - Say the Brewers have a trade offer to the Rays for Odorizzi...Did they have to wait until the arbitration cases are done?

Which was decided today per Heyman. Odorizzi won.

 

Good question and could be good news for teams wanting him given the Rays are supposedly trying to clear payroll.

 

Made this assumption a bit back. If he's going year to year in Arb the decision in Odorizzi's favor would mean an expected increase on salary in the future than if he lost. And I'd imagine a team's trade offer being a B prospect vs a C prospect type of affect(not the headliner prospect in the deal) Take the Jakes in our system, maybe Gatewood if he lost, or Nottingham if he won.

[Boomer5]

Random Question - Say the Brewers have a trade offer to the Rays for Odorizzi...Did they have to wait until the arbitration cases are done?

Which was decided today per Heyman. Odorizzi won.

 

Good question and could be good news for teams wanting him given the Rays are supposedly trying to clear payroll.

 

Made this assumption a bit back. If he's going year to year in Arb the decision in Odorizzi's favor would mean an expected increase on salary in the future than if he lost. And I'd imagine a team's trade offer being a B prospect vs a C prospect type of affect(not the headliner prospect in the deal) Take the Jakes in our system, maybe Gatewood if he lost, or Nottingham if he won.

 

If we land a guy who was a 3 WAR player in 15 and 16 for Jake Nottingham I will truly be impressed. Actually if we can get a door stop for Nottingham I will be impressed.

[brewcrewdue80]

You missed my parenthesis not the headliner.

[Steiny231]

Well I guess it won't be Odorizzi...

[pacopete4]

Heck yes. One less bum we won’t be wasting prospects on.

[KCBrewerfan34]

Odorizzi to the Twins her Passan

[Steiny231]

He would have been very much a buy low option. I do like the fact that this most likely takes Minny out of the running for Archer.

[TURBO]

Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports the Rays have traded Jake Odorizzi to the Twins.

 

Source: Marc Topkin on TwitterFeb 17 - 9:47 PM

[jonescm128]

Twins sent Jermaine Palacios...that can't be the only piece otherwise I am going to be extremely disappointed in Stearns.

[NOMAAM]

He would have been very much a buy low option. I do like the fact that this most likely takes Minny out of the running for Archer.

Does it take them out of the running for FA pitchers? Is another interesting question.

[Steiny231]

Maybe. They've got Berrios, Odorizzi, Sanchez, Gibson, and then Santana when he comes back. Maybe they go after someone else too. They're hard to get a read on.

[Steiny231]

Nightengale seems to think they won't sign anyone now.

[NOMAAM]

Thought I saw they are in on Tillman too.

[nate82]

Jake was a 3 war pitcher in 2015 and 2016. We aren't getting him for Dubon and Broxton, etc.

 

So about that we aren't getting him for Dubon and Broxton, etc....

 

Dubon by himself would have been an overpay from what the Twins gave the Rays for Odorizzi.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Bullet dodged?

 

[brewmann04]

whew

[Oldcity]

The funny thing would be if this led to Oakland making a push for Cobb (I'm sure it won't).

[JosephC]

Sounds like Jharel Cotton is headed for Tommy John surgery. Tough break for him.