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Cain to Brewers - 5 years/$80M

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That outfield D is gonna be pretty darn good.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Signing Cain means more than the money on the contract being spent..

I believe the signing of Cain at that amount means the Brewers give up their competitive balance pick in the 2018 draft (between round 1 & 2) and some international signing pool monies.

 

Can anyone follow up on this with the actual impacts....

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Braun/Cain/Yelich/Santana/Phillips/Broxton

 

Over under 12 hours until the next move is announced?

 

I'll take the under on that. Goodbye Santana, hello Mejia plus pitching (just a hunch)

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It's an overpay in the current market but not from what guys have been getting the last few years. To wit:

 

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/37070/rubbing-mud-lorenzo-cain-still-available/

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Love Cain. Wish it was 3-4 years, but the $16M annual tag is fair. MLBTR pegged him for 4/70.

 

Heyman nailed it perfectly.

 

6. Lorenzo Cain, CF. He’s just a terrific all-around player who has been a big part of the Royals success. There doesn’t seem to be much (or any) chance he’ll stay, but there should be plenty of suitors, with the Dodgers, Giants, Mariners and Rangers among the most logical landing spots.

 

Expert: $68M/4 years. Me: $80M/5 years.

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"Recall the Jayson Werth deal. Werth hit free agency after his age-31 season, with a small handful of very good seasons under his belt. Like Cain, injuries and foolishness on the part of the team trying to develop him delayed Werth’s establishment as an everyday player, but he was a guy with a broad base of skills and tremendous overall athleticism. He signed a seven-year, $126 million deal with the Nationals, to the shock and chagrin of many observers. Over the life of that deal, however, Werth was worth 16.9 WARP, meaning that the Nationals paid about $7.4 million per win—hardly a bust, especially considering that much of that value was concentrated in the first four seasons of the term.

 

Cain is unlikely to even approximate Werth’s payday. It would be no surprise, now, if he were forced to settle for, say, a four-year deal worth $80 million. At that price, he would be an outlandish bargain, and if he comes in even lower, he’s going to give some organization a huge boost."

 

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/37070/rubbing-mud-lorenzo-cain-still-available/

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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If you trust fWAR and UZR, then over his career (3052 PA) Cain has been worth 5.0 fWAR per 162 games. I'd say that's worth a $16M/year contract!! He's already in his 30s so it might be an "overpay" by the end of the contract, but that's just how the free agency market works. It's certainly not an overpay based on market values.
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