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[82brewcrew82]

I’ve have more thoughts on this that I will post if this thread isn’t locked before, but one thing:

 

It is ridiculous it isn’t okay to question HH19’s information etc. when every day on here we constantly nitpick and question rumors from people who’s jobs are to find inside info and we know 100% they are a legitimate person to get info from. We call out those rumors if they don’t make sense. If HH19 says something that is questionable or doesn’t make sense he better be ready for skepticism too.

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[pacopete4]

I’ve have more thoughts on this that I will post if this thread isn’t locked before, but one thing:

 

It is ridiculous it isn’t okay to question HH19’s information etc. when every day on here we constantly nitpick and question rumors from people who’s jobs are to find inside info and we know 100% they are a legitimate person to get info from. We call out those rumors if they don’t make sense. If HH19 says something that is questionable or doesn’t make sense he better be ready for skepticism too.

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You didn't question his information though. You just made a smart remark towards him. What good does something like that do? Ohhhhh, you got him. He didn't give us any new "news". Congrats man.

[tmwiese55]

But this is an average joe just relaying info from a friend. Take it for what it is with the proper grain of salt, no need for attacks or trying to prove him as bs and for blowing it up. Moreso than him not liking criticism is that it's just gotten too much attention so he should just back off so whoever he's talking to doesn't get in trouble. If you don't believe him, just don't believe him, no need to be jerks about it.

[82brewcrew82]

But this is an average joe just relaying info from a friend. Take it for what it is with the proper grain of salt, no need for attacks or trying to prove him as bs and for blowing it up. Moreso than him not liking criticism is that it's just gotten too much attention so he should just back off so whoever he's talking to doesn't get in trouble. If you don't believe him, just don't believe him, no need to be jerks about it.

Again, what attack? Who was a jerk (except maybe that one guy that had like three posts)?

[hurricanecrush]

I appreciated all of what HH shared. My only recommendation would have been to just drop nuggets when you have a hot scoop and not share all of the intermediate thoughts and offers, it just opens you up for criticism when a deal falls through or things get stalled. I've seen people on other boards work in this manner and it's very effective and those posters have great credibility. They may post infrequently about nuggets but when they do, you trust it's true. Just my $.02

[tmwiese55]

Making a mock parody account on twitter is a pretty jerky move and just the general nitpicking and questioning if he's full of it. It is what it is, no reason for it to be a combative thing.

 

and again I would venture to guess it's not like he can't handle people talking back, but the bigger issue is that it's just gotten too big and will catch the eye of someone and get back to his friend.

[MrTPlush]

I’ve have more thoughts on this that I will post if this thread isn’t locked before, but one thing:

 

It is ridiculous it isn’t okay to question HH19’s information etc. when every day on here we constantly nitpick and question rumors from people who’s jobs are to find inside info and we know 100% they are a legitimate person to get info from. We call out those rumors if they don’t make sense. If HH19 says something that is questionable or doesn’t make sense he better be ready for skepticism too.

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You didn't question his information though. You just made a smart remark towards him. What good does something like that do? Ohhhhh, you got him. He didn't give us any new "news". Congrats man.

 

Oh sure I could have explained in more detail, but you really think that would matter? Yah, I don’t think so personally. He doesn’t like when people question him nor do a lot of other people.

[82brewcrew82]

Making a mock parody account on twitter is a pretty jerky move and just the general nitpicking and questioning if he's full of it. It is what it is, no reason for it to be a combative thing.

I thought it was funny. You have to laugh at yourself sometimes. If poking fun of someone is jerky then every single person on this thread is jerky. It's a message board. My opinions aren't going to get censored because someone has thin skin. There is a whole lot about what he posted that doesn't make sense and I've bit my tongue on a lot of it but the whole point of this board is contrary to the point you are trying to make.

[JCREW]

What attack?

 

A number of times in this thread and others, people have said things along the lines of, "This thing didn't happen yet, so you were lying about having inside information."

 

I'd be upset too if someone accused me of lying when the more probable situation is market factors and GM valuations shifted.

 

To HighHeat19: The internet is not private and gets snarky and mean quickly. Thank you for the info. I wish it would keep coming, but at some point publicity and snark were bound to happen, so please don't be too hurt.

 

To his detractors: Please don't call someone a liar when there are more plausible options than falsehood. Please don't call hard work nothing.

[kfizz]

Giving us info is not his job, so he doesn't have to put up with garbage. Everyone should have known that he didn't love being called out. I don't come here primarily to exercise my right to free speech. I am interested in info on the Brewers. Now there's less of it. Unfortunate. I wouldn't be surprised if the forum is less lively without him.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Making a mock parody account on twitter is a pretty jerky move and just the general nitpicking and questioning if he's full of it. It is what it is, no reason for it to be a combative thing.

I thought it was funny. You have to laugh at yourself sometimes. If poking fun of someone is jerky then every single person on this thread is jerky. It's a message board. My opinions aren't going to get censored because someone has thin skin. There is a whole lot about what he posted that doesn't make sense and I've bit my tongue on a lot of it but the whole point of this board is contrary to the point you are trying to make.

 

I guess one man's funny is another man's stupid and pointless, but to each their own I suppose.

[Brewfan77]

Giving us info is not his job, so he doesn't have to put up with garbage. Everyone should have known that he didn't love being called out. I don't come here primarily to exercise my right to free speech. I am interested in info on the Brewers. Now there's less of it. Unfortunate. I wouldn't be surprised if the forum is less lively without him.

 

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[MrTPlush]

I’d like to see some of these “He is a liar” posts. Being skeptical and questioning him is not calling him a liar. Entirely different.

[adambr2]

I’ve have more thoughts on this that I will post if this thread isn’t locked before, but one thing:

 

It is ridiculous it isn’t okay to question HH19’s information etc. when every day on here we constantly nitpick and question rumors from people who’s jobs are to find inside info and we know 100% they are a legitimate person to get info from. We call out those rumors if they don’t make sense. If HH19 says something that is questionable or doesn’t make sense he better be ready for skepticism too.

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+2. Skepticism is healthy. It's why MLBtraderumors doesn't post every whisper across the internet. In any other regard when someone posts a rumor from a little known source, people ask, "Is this a reliable source?" And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. You know what's weak? Shaming posters for not accepting a source at face value just because you want access to any juicy whisper you can get a hint of.

 

Frankly to me, the pining and begging for any possible hint of a rumor was getting to be old and a distraction.

 

I have no idea what the extent of HH's 'insider' information is, if any, but if you truly want to share, having your audience accept your word as gospel without reservations shouldn't be a condition for it. Either way, getting that kind of access to me isn't important enough to me for people to risk getting into trouble or putting friendships on the line to do it.

[82brewcrew82]

What attack?

 

A number of times in this thread and others, people have said things along the lines of, "This thing didn't happen yet, so you were lying about having inside information."

 

I'd be upset too if someone accused me of lying when the more probable situation is market factors and GM valuations shifted.

 

To HighHeat19: The internet is not private and gets snarky and mean quickly. Thank you for the info. I wish it would keep coming, but at some point publicity and snark were bound to happen, so please don't be too hurt.

 

To his detractors: Please don't call someone a liar when there are more plausible options than falsehood. Please don't call hard work nothing.

Show me a post (outside of that one crazy dude) where someone called him a liar?

[KeithStone53151]

Giving us info is not his job, so he doesn't have to put up with garbage. Everyone should have known that he didn't love being called out. I don't come here primarily to exercise my right to free speech. I am interested in info on the Brewers. Now there's less of it. Unfortunate. I wouldn't be surprised if the forum is less lively without him.

 

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The forum hit a record high yesterday, and I've seen a ton of new posters lately...which can largely be attributed to HH.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I wouldn't be surprised if the forum is less lively without him.

 

I don't think that's even a question. The traffic and energy here over the last couple weeks has been unprecedented and fun. Hopefully something will happen soon transaction-wise to keep it going.

[82brewcrew82]

Giving us info is not his job, so he doesn't have to put up with garbage. Everyone should have known that he didn't love being called out. I don't come here primarily to exercise my right to free speech. I am interested in info on the Brewers. Now there's less of it. Unfortunate. I wouldn't be surprised if the forum is less lively without him.

Is there really less of it?

[82brewcrew82]

Making a mock parody account on twitter is a pretty jerky move and just the general nitpicking and questioning if he's full of it. It is what it is, no reason for it to be a combative thing.

I thought it was funny. You have to laugh at yourself sometimes. If poking fun of someone is jerky then every single person on this thread is jerky. It's a message board. My opinions aren't going to get censored because someone has thin skin. There is a whole lot about what he posted that doesn't make sense and I've bit my tongue on a lot of it but the whole point of this board is contrary to the point you are trying to make.

 

I guess one man's funny is another man's stupid and pointless, but to each their own I suppose.

Exactly!

[tmwiese55]

Making a mock parody account on twitter is a pretty jerky move and just the general nitpicking and questioning if he's full of it. It is what it is, no reason for it to be a combative thing.

I thought it was funny. You have to laugh at yourself sometimes. If poking fun of someone is jerky then every single person on this thread is jerky. It's a message board. My opinions aren't going to get censored because someone has thin skin. There is a whole lot about what he posted that doesn't make sense and I've bit my tongue on a lot of it but the whole point of this board is contrary to the point you are trying to make.

 

But the important thing is that it's helping blow up his spot. That's the bigger issue here imo. And it's a jerk move to do such a thing to the person and source who it could get back to. Just take it for what it is, discuss the rumors.

 

I mean, we had days of people constantly asking for updates with no response, the guy gives an update that there really is no update on anything close, but says some things that have at least been discussed and where his friend thinks the issues are. And several people make fun or complain that it's such a bad update. What's he supposed to do if there is nothing big imminent, he passed on what he was told. He's trying to give info to diehards, would you bother keeping it up to deal with that reaction?

[BuckyBrewer61]

I mean look we all appreciate what you do around here HH, it gives us something to be excited about in these cold winter months.

 

However, it's getting kind of old to have to stroke your ego every couple days because someone was mean to you. Or let alone doubted you. I mean you have to understand people would have reasonable doubt about the information you're giving right? Now people on twitter (who probably aren't even site members) make a parody account and you're going to leave again. We'd love for you to stay and continue to give some of us die hards something to hope for, but not at the risk of dividing the forum completely.

 

Sorry if this seems rude, because I do actually enjoy the content you've provided.

 

This x1000

 

I believe he actually does have a source, but even if he doesn't I enjoy the rumors. I hope he keeps posting because I enjoy the content one way or the other, it makes for fun hot stove speculation.

 

But man...it's a niche internet message board that a few hundred people know about. The minimal anonymous internet fame isn't a big deal, nor is a parody account with a handful of followers or a doubtful comment here or there. If these rumors are so sensitive that they are going to be peppered with fishing for ego-stroking and threatening to leave and take the ball home...well I guess I don't care about that either, I'll just ignore it, but it is getting old.

 

Sorry to the other posters, I'm assuming HH19 won't care for this. Mods can feel free to take it down if desired.

[StearnsFTW]

I’d like to see some of these “He is a liar” posts. Being skeptical and questioning him is not calling him a liar. Entirely different.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure those posts don't exist. It's possible I missed them, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.

[kfizz]

I’d like to see some of these “He is a liar” posts. Being skeptical and questioning him is not calling him a liar. Entirely different.

 

I'm new here so I'm not trying to tell any of you long time posters how to do this. I would note that there is a fair amount of ground between "he is a liar" and "being skeptical and questioning." I suspect you and a few others were a little closer to the former in some instances.

[MrTPlush]

Giving us info is not his job, so he doesn't have to put up with garbage. Everyone should have known that he didn't love being called out. I don't come here primarily to exercise my right to free speech. I am interested in info on the Brewers. Now there's less of it. Unfortunate. I wouldn't be surprised if the forum is less lively without him.

 

Well that is unfortunate for him and he has a right to leave if people questioned him. It is no different then people calling out my opinion on Archer, wanting to sign Darvish, or anything else. I’m not going to refrain myself from speaking to not offend someone cause I don’t agree with them or something they said is questionable.

 

If people calling you out or disagreeing with your opinion is a problem a forum is probably not the place for you. I was skeptical and questioned him in a respectful way and respected people who didn’t. That’s my right on a forum and what it is all about.

[brewcrewdue80]

Fun ride while it lasted. But yeah, the moment the Cubs forum got connected in on this, you knew it was going to get out of control. Appreciate the inside info and how HH worded it back.

 

The Kipnis idea has it's ups/downs but the highs are a 1st rate 2b. Ceiling above Villar which, is something I look to over someone who may have a higher floor but not close to Villar's ceiling.(Merrifield) If you're going to make a move that can help propel this team in a WS contender he's the 2b you target when your trade piece fits for the other team. I think that's some of the difference with the Archer trade request, they don't need Santana he's redundant like he is now on this team.

 

What's next is sitting here and awaiting Darvish seek what? 180mil while the offers are at 130mil. or 90mil if you're a Cubs fan.