Yelich to the Brewers in exchange for Brinson, Isan Diaz, M. Harrison and Yamamoto

[Boomer5]

The best player in the NL is DeGrom.

[homer]

The best player in the NL is DeGrom.

 

What does that have to do with the Yelich trade?

[brewcrewdue80]

Happy that Yelich is exceeding everyone's expectations. Loved him in Miami said he was going to be high quality but, he's done better than even my higher expectations. The trade is win for the Brewers. MVP worthy season. There's nothing more you could ask for to get when trading for the player. Stay on the field the next few years is all that needs to be done even regressing to his avg seasons prior.

 

It was a big cost and Im so surprised the years these 4 had. The pain in losing this potential group lessened quite a lot.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

What a fun read. Some real cringe-worthy reactions in those early pages. As struck as I was by some of the over the top negative reactions, it was a fun reminder that no one saw THIS coming. I think one guy said he expected Yelich to be in the MVP mix. The Brewers have the best GM in baseball. Hopefully they'll be able to keep him.

[TURBO]

The pain in losing this potential group lessened quite a lot.

 

This sums it up for me.

 

The lot they gave up really caused me grief. I was attached to Diaz and Monte due to their time in Appleton.

 

I'm over it, and looking forward to 4 more years of MVP seasons!

[coolhandluke121]

The best player in the NL is DeGrom.

 

What does that have to do with the Yelich trade?

 

What else is Stearns gonna do for an encore? He acquired the current two most valuable players in the NL last year. Gotta figure Scherzer and DeGrom are next.

[liveforoctober]

What a fun read. Some real cringe-worthy reactions in those early pages. As struck as I was by some of the over the top negative reactions, it was a fun reminder that no one saw THIS coming. I think one guy said he expected Yelich to be in the MVP mix. The Brewers have the best GM in baseball. Hopefully they'll be able to keep him.

 

I think most people didn't realize/remember the Marlins moved Stanton UP in the order last year ahead of Yelich because teams weren't pitching to him. I remember a lot of "well he had Stanton protecting him so he got pitches to hit" but that wasn't true. Ozuna was behind him yes... but Yelich earned his numbers last year.

[MrTPlush]

What a fun read. Some real cringe-worthy reactions in those early pages. As struck as I was by some of the over the top negative reactions, it was a fun reminder that no one saw THIS coming. I think one guy said he expected Yelich to be in the MVP mix. The Brewers have the best GM in baseball. Hopefully they'll be able to keep him.

 

I wouldn't say that. A lot of people were hoping/expecting his HR total to bump up near 30. He had 18 last year and if they were all at MP he would have had 8 more plus a lot of wall scrappers. Not hard to imagine his HR total being what it is right now...I personally expected him to float around 30 HRs a year with us. That is where a huge majority of his stat bump comes from. What is a little surprising is the .320 average to really juice up his stats. Personally I was expecting about .300 as a safe bet.

 

What is most surprising is he still got to these stats despite starting off a little blah with the bat. He had to really turn it on in the second half (insane) to do it. It makes you wonder how good he might be moving forward. If he could hit for more power to RF...whew.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

What a fun read. Some real cringe-worthy reactions in those early pages. As struck as I was by some of the over the top negative reactions, it was a fun reminder that no one saw THIS coming. I think one guy said he expected Yelich to be in the MVP mix. The Brewers have the best GM in baseball. Hopefully they'll be able to keep him.

 

I wouldn't say that. A lot of people were hoping/expecting his HR total to bump up near 30. He had 18 last year and if they were all at MP he would have had 8 more plus a lot of wall scrappers. Not hard to imagine his HR total being what it is right now...I personally expected him to float around 30 HRs a year with us. That is where a huge majority of his stat bump comes from. What is a little surprising is the .320 average to really juice up his stats. Personally I was expecting about .300 as a safe bet.

 

I had just read the entire thread. Somehow I must have missed your prescient scouting report. I don't recall anyone projecting THESE numbers for Yelich or that he'd be the best bat in the NL. It was well known that MP would give a boost to his numbers. No one took it this far. The only one who should be tooting their own horn is the guy who put him in the MVP race when the trade was made.

[MrTPlush]

What a fun read. Some real cringe-worthy reactions in those early pages. As struck as I was by some of the over the top negative reactions, it was a fun reminder that no one saw THIS coming. I think one guy said he expected Yelich to be in the MVP mix. The Brewers have the best GM in baseball. Hopefully they'll be able to keep him.

 

I wouldn't say that. A lot of people were hoping/expecting his HR total to bump up near 30. He had 18 last year and if they were all at MP he would have had 8 more plus a lot of wall scrappers. Not hard to imagine his HR total being what it is right now...I personally expected him to float around 30 HRs a year with us. That is where a huge majority of his stat bump comes from. What is a little surprising is the .320 average to really juice up his stats. Personally I was expecting about .300 as a safe bet.

 

I had just read the entire thread. Somehow I must have missed your prescient scouting report. I don't recall anyone projecting THESE numbers for Yelich or that he'd be the best bat in the NL. It was well known that MP would give a boost to his numbers. No one took it this far. The only one who should be tooting their own horn is the guy who put him in the MVP race when the trade was made.

 

I would never have guessed he would really compete for the MVP race...but then again I would never have thought the MVP race would be so, average. Yelich is really good, but won't even hit a 7 WAR (just over 6 right now) according to Baseball Reference.

 

Just looking at the last few years:

 

2018 - 6.1 WAR (Yelich/Baez currently)

2017 - 7.6 WAR

2016 - 7.4 WAR

2015 - 10 WAR (holy...)

2014 - 7.7 WAR

2013 - 7.9 WAR

2012 - 7.6 WAR

2011 - 7.7 WAR

 

2007 - Jimmy Rollins 6.1 WAR

 

Rollins was a low WAR guy as was Ryan Howard when he won it. That being said I don't know who was voting back then but wow... How did Ryan Howard ever win it over Pujols in 2006 is amazing. It is pretty impressive how low bar was set this year in the NL to be the best. The NL just does not have a Trout/Betts/etc. I don't know how far back one would have to go to find zero NL hitters without a 7+ WAR.

[homer]

I think a few people thought his homers would increase to high 20's (maybe 30) but no one thought he'd be leading the league in SLG and OPS.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

I think a few people thought his homers would increase to high 20's (maybe 30) but no one thought he'd be leading the league in SLG and OPS.

 

Yeah, this is right in line with what people were saying. No one was calling for the latter.

[YelichPosse]

What a fun read. Some real cringe-worthy reactions in those early pages. As struck as I was by some of the over the top negative reactions, it was a fun reminder that no one saw THIS coming. I think one guy said he expected Yelich to be in the MVP mix. The Brewers have the best GM in baseball. Hopefully they'll be able to keep him.

 

I wouldn't say that. A lot of people were hoping/expecting his HR total to bump up near 30. He had 18 last year and if they were all at MP he would have had 8 more plus a lot of wall scrappers. Not hard to imagine his HR total being what it is right now...I personally expected him to float around 30 HRs a year with us. That is where a huge majority of his stat bump comes from. What is a little surprising is the .320 average to really juice up his stats. Personally I was expecting about .300 as a safe bet.

 

What is most surprising is he still got to these stats despite starting off a little blah with the bat. He had to really turn it on in the second half (insane) to do it. It makes you wonder how good he might be moving forward. If he could hit for more power to RF...whew.

 

Not only was he sort of blah, remember he was hurt for a bit there too, and the adjustment period after that. That makes this year even more special, as not just the counting stats are there, but the eye test is there. I was thinking he would fit MP perfectly, and his numbers are reflecting as such. One of the most underrated parts of his game is how he runs the bases. The man glides. He gets the extra base. He's no "burner" like a Gomez or somebody known for speed, but, he is quite possibly (minus maybe arm strength) one of the best all around players we have seen in a long time. AND HE IS STILL GETTING BETTER! Ahhhh. This trade, went from I like it, to a slam dunk already for me. Provided he stays healthy... he has to project to some amazing years the next few......

[clancyphile]

I think a few people thought his homers would increase to high 20's (maybe 30) but no one thought he'd be leading the league in SLG and OPS.

 

I think they looked only at homers. Two other factors were probably not accounted for entirely:

 

1. Miller Park meant that other fly balls that didn't go out of the park instead went off the wall for doubles rather than being caught for outs. Those add to average and SLG, too.

 

2. He also has had Aguilar, Shaw, and Braun behind him in the order, giving him a fair bit of protection. He saw more fastballs. Yeah, he could hurt you, but those three are still dangerous (Braun was "unlucky" in the first half).

[sobomp3]

Haven't really read the thread, but I'd do this trade again in a heartbeat!

[clancyphile]

Here is what is amazing - imagine this Opening Day 2019 lineup:

 

cf: Cain

rf: Yelich

1b: Aguilar

2b: Shaw

lf: Braun

3b: Moustakas

ss: Schoop

c: Pina

Pitcher

 

I think 2019 will be even better than 2018!

[Devinep]

Here is what is amazing - imagine this Opening Day 2019 lineup:

 

cf: Cain

rf: Yelich

1b: Aguilar

2b: Shaw

lf: Braun

3b: Moustakas

ss: Schoop

c: Pina

Pitcher

 

I think 2019 will be even better than 2018!

 

Why imagine that lineup with an eye towards 2019 when it could be done right now ?

[StearnsFTW]

I had just read the entire thread. Somehow I must have missed your prescient scouting report. I don't recall anyone projecting THESE numbers for Yelich or that he'd be the best bat in the NL. It was well known that MP would give a boost to his numbers. No one took it this far. The only one who should be tooting their own horn is the guy who put him in the MVP race when the trade was made.

 

I would never have guessed he would really compete for the MVP race...but then again I would never have thought the MVP race would be so, average. Yelich is really good, but won't even hit a 7 WAR (just over 6 right now) according to Baseball Reference.

 

Just looking at the last few years:

 

2018 - 6.1 WAR (Yelich/Baez currently)

2017 - 7.6 WAR

2016 - 7.4 WAR

2015 - 10 WAR (holy...)

2014 - 7.7 WAR

2013 - 7.9 WAR

2012 - 7.6 WAR

2011 - 7.7 WAR

 

2007 - Jimmy Rollins 6.1 WAR

 

Rollins was a low WAR guy as was Ryan Howard when he won it. That being said I don't know who was voting back then but wow... How did Ryan Howard ever win it over Pujols in 2006 is amazing. It is pretty impressive how low bar was set this year in the NL to be the best. The NL just does not have a Trout/Betts/etc. I don't know how far back one would have to go to find zero NL hitters without a 7+ WAR.

 

I was interested, so I checked. 2014 no NL hitters over 7, and only 1 pitcher (Kershaw). Before that, 1986. And before that 1942. So, yeah. Not a great position player season in the NL this year.

[clancyphile]

Here is what is amazing - imagine this Opening Day 2019 lineup:

 

cf: Cain

rf: Yelich

1b: Aguilar

2b: Shaw

lf: Braun

3b: Moustakas

ss: Schoop

c: Pina

Pitcher

 

I think 2019 will be even better than 2018!

 

Why imagine that lineup with an eye towards 2019 when it could be done right now ?

 

OH, I wish, but Arcia's there.

 

He's rapidly overtaking Jim Gantner as my all-time LEAST favorite Brewer. Same reason - an offensive black hole.

[brewcrewdue80]

Here is what is amazing - imagine this Opening Day 2019 lineup:

 

cf: Cain

rf: Yelich

1b: Aguilar

2b: Shaw

lf: Braun

3b: Moustakas

ss: Schoop

c: Pina

Pitcher

 

I think 2019 will be even better than 2018!

 

Why imagine that lineup with an eye towards 2019 when it could be done right now ?

 

OH, I wish, but Arcia's there.

 

He's rapidly overtaking Jim Gantner as my all-time LEAST favorite Brewer. Same reason - an offensive black hole.

 

When he was demoted his avg was .197/.231/251-.482ops.

 

Change in role, hes at .221/.257/291-548ops now for season. That's some small improvement, but improvement nonetheless.

 

With how he plays defense, he only need a little more from the bat to have added value for the team. Right jow BWar has him at -.3war. Somebody somewhere is going to reach to him and improve his approach. He's young still but a guy out there I believe similar history would be Brandon Crawford. Who has had a spiked year sprinkled in here and there I believe with quite a positive value. Ill have to check, but I feel good stating that for now w/o checking.

[StearnsFTW]

Crawford has been 1.9 WAR or higher every season of his career, averaging around 2.9.

 

2 big seasons of 4.3 & 5.3, but otherwise quite consistently around 2.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5343&position=SS

[hurricanecrush]

If there was another week left in the season, with the way Yelich has been playing, I think he could have made a run at the triple crown.

[The stache]

I would never have guessed he would really compete for the MVP race...but then again I would never have thought the MVP race would be so, average. Yelich is really good, but won't even hit a 7 WAR (just over 6 right now) according to Baseball Reference.

 

Yelich entered the day with a 6.4 WAR according to Baseball-Reference.com, and that's not updated for tonight, when he went 2 for 5 with a triple, home run, and 6 RBI. He'll be at a 6.5-6.6 tonight, with 4-5 games left.

 

A few good games, and he'll push close to 7.

 

110 runs scored, 181 hits, 34 doubles, 7 triples, 33 home runs, 104 RBI, 21 SB, .321 AVG, slash of .390/.583/.973 157 OPS + that's hardly average from a #2 hitter in the lineup. Driving in 100 + from the two slot is nuts. He has 327 total bases, one behind Baez.

 

And hitting is down this year. Only 7 guys in the entire National League at over .300.

[dlk9s]

I'm concerned that we gave up too much for him. What if a couple of those prospects pan out?

[MillerParkSouth]

Fair trade imo