Significant Acquisition Coming? Krasnick says "buzz" Brewers close to a trade

[pogokat]

 

Here's the possible scenarios I am dreaming up:

 

Brewers Trade Travis Shaw for Jacoby Ellsbury, Dellin Betances, either Justus Sheffield or Gleybor Torres.

 

Then, Brewers turn to the Blue Jays and offer whichever the Blue Jays desired between Sheffied or Torres (this is where setting up a hypothetical with another team beforehand comes into play) and throw in either Brett Phillips or Monte Harrison along with Luis Ortiz for Josh Donaldson and Marcus Stroman.

 

If that deal falls through, plan B is to sign Mike Moustakas.

 

Now, since the Brewers are rolling and getting somewhere, the Brewers trade Domingo Santana and another just outside a top 100 prospect to the Indians for Salazar and Mejia.

 

If this trade is accepted, then the Brewers sign Eduardo Nunez for Second Base.

 

If that trade doesn't go through, then the Brewers Trade Santana to the Royals for Whit Merrifield and Danny Duffy.

 

In the Brewers dream Scenario they would have traded Shaw and Santana along with 2 top prospect of theirs and a couple other prospects for Josh Donaldson, Dellin Betances, Marcus Stroman, and Danny Salazar along with getting Jacoby Ellsbury to platoon with Lewis Brinson/Keon Broxton and adding Eduardo Nunez through free agency.

 

The Brewers Starting 8 would be:

 

C:Manny Pina

1B:Marcus Thames

2B:Eduardo Nunez

3B:Josh Donaldson

SS:Orlando Arcia

LF:Ryan Braun

CF:Keon Broxton

RF:Lewis Brinson

 

Bench:

 

C:Francisco Mejia (gradually starting)

IF:Hernan Perez, Jesus Aguilar, Jonathan Villar

OF:Jacoby Ellsbury

 

SP:Danny Salazar

Marcus Stroman

Chase Anderson

Kyle Davies

Jhoulys Chacin

 

RP:Corey Knebel (closer)

Dellin Betances (setup)

Josh Hader (alternate setup with Betances dependent on situation)

Boone Logan (loogy)

Jacob Barnes

Oliver Drake?

Junior Guerra/Yovani Gallardo (long relief)

 

 

this man dreams!

[MNBrew]

Can we just hit the pause button on this thread until some credible new info hits? I've been trying to catch up on this and I swear I read on about page 17 of this thread that we are somehow taking on Bonilla's deferred money, Kevin millar, and two bullpen carts to swing a 7 way trade that ropes the Blackhawks and badgers into the equation to keep the warriors under the luxury tax....I guess I'm all for it as long as we keep Hader in the pen/er, rotation!

 

I think it's great Stearns has a bunch of options lined up depending on how dominos start falling....however it's a dangerous game of cat and mouse because by no means are the brewers ever considered to be driving the hot stove bus across all of mlb. You can try to get too cute and wind up getting burned if the wrong thing goes sideways or some other team swoops in and over pays in fa or trade value for a key piece you need to execute a grand offseason scheme worthy of book deals and movies.

 

You're missing Jason Kidd becoming the new radio announcer in there as part of the mobes

I thought Kidd would be the new eye-in-the-sky coach. Maybe he does both. He could from up in the booth.

 

I don't think anyone's suggesting the Brewers are driving the MLB hot stove bus. We just heard about the potential for dominoes, which I'm sure is not unique to the Brewers. For as hopeful as we all are for transaction action, I think it's also widely understood that nothing happening is always a possibility until something actually happens.

[wallus]

Here's the possible scenarios I am dreaming up:

 

Brewers Trade Travis Shaw for Jacoby Ellsbury, Dellin Betances, either Justus Sheffield or Gleybor Torres.

 

Then, Brewers turn to the Blue Jays and offer whichever the Blue Jays desired between Sheffied or Torres (this is where setting up a hypothetical with another team beforehand comes into play) and throw in either Brett Phillips or Monte Harrison along with Luis Ortiz for Josh Donaldson and Marcus Stroman.

 

If that deal falls through, plan B is to sign Mike Moustakas.

 

Now, since the Brewers are rolling and getting somewhere, the Brewers trade Domingo Santana and another just outside a top 100 prospect to the Indians for Salazar and Mejia.

 

If this trade is accepted, then the Brewers sign Eduardo Nunez for Second Base.

 

If that trade doesn't go through, then the Brewers Trade Santana to the Royals for Whit Merrifield and Danny Duffy.

 

In the Brewers dream Scenario they would have traded Shaw and Santana along with 2 top prospect of theirs and a couple other prospects for Josh Donaldson, Dellin Betances, Marcus Stroman, and Danny Salazar along with getting Jacoby Ellsbury to platoon with Lewis Brinson/Keon Broxton and adding Eduardo Nunez through free agency.

 

The Brewers Starting 8 would be:

 

C:Manny Pina

1B:Marcus Thames

2B:Eduardo Nunez

3B:Josh Donaldson

SS:Orlando Arcia

LF:Ryan Braun

CF:Keon Broxton

RF:Lewis Brinson

 

Bench:

 

C:Francisco Mejia (gradually starting)

IF:Hernan Perez, Jesus Aguilar, Jonathan Villar

OF:Jacoby Ellsbury

 

SP:Danny Salazar

Marcus Stroman

Chase Anderson

Kyle Davies

Jhoulys Chacin

 

RP:Corey Knebel (closer)

Dellin Betances (setup)

Josh Hader (alternate setup with Betances dependent on situation)

Boone Logan (loogy)

Jacob Barnes

Oliver Drake?

Junior Guerra/Yovani Gallardo (long relief)

 

How much would we sign Kyle Davies for and what would happen to Zach? How much would we sign Marcus Thames for and what would happen to Eric?

[FVBrewerFan]

27 pages? Didn't Carlos Gomez trade to the Mets go through yet or something?

[pogokat]

Carlos Gomez! that's a great idea! lets sign him, then trade broxton for Wilmer. The irony would be awesome!

[ougiqbxy]

Here's the possible scenarios I am dreaming up:

 

Brewers Trade Travis Shaw for Jacoby Ellsbury, Dellin Betances, either Justus Sheffield or Gleybor Torres.

 

Then, Brewers turn to the Blue Jays and offer whichever the Blue Jays desired between Sheffied or Torres (this is where setting up a hypothetical with another team beforehand comes into play) and throw in either Brett Phillips or Monte Harrison along with Luis Ortiz for Josh Donaldson and Marcus Stroman.

 

If that deal falls through, plan B is to sign Mike Moustakas.

 

Now, since the Brewers are rolling and getting somewhere, the Brewers trade Domingo Santana and another just outside a top 100 prospect to the Indians for Salazar and Mejia.

 

If this trade is accepted, then the Brewers sign Eduardo Nunez for Second Base.

 

If that trade doesn't go through, then the Brewers Trade Santana to the Royals for Whit Merrifield and Danny Duffy.

 

In the Brewers dream Scenario they would have traded Shaw and Santana along with 2 top prospect of theirs and a couple other prospects for Josh Donaldson, Dellin Betances, Marcus Stroman, and Danny Salazar along with getting Jacoby Ellsbury to platoon with Lewis Brinson/Keon Broxton and adding Eduardo Nunez through free agency.

 

The Brewers Starting 8 would be:

 

C:Manny Pina

1B:Marcus Thames

2B:Eduardo Nunez

3B:Josh Donaldson

SS:Orlando Arcia

LF:Ryan Braun

CF:Keon Broxton

RF:Lewis Brinson

 

Bench:

 

C:Francisco Mejia (gradually starting)

IF:Hernan Perez, Jesus Aguilar, Jonathan Villar

OF:Jacoby Ellsbury

 

SP:Danny Salazar

Marcus Stroman

Chase Anderson

Kyle Davies

Jhoulys Chacin

 

RP:Corey Knebel (closer)

Dellin Betances (setup)

Josh Hader (alternate setup with Betances dependent on situation)

Boone Logan (loogy)

Jacob Barnes

Oliver Drake?

Junior Guerra/Yovani Gallardo (long relief)

 

How much would we sign Kyle Davies for and what would happen to Zach? How much would we sign Marcus Thames for and what would happen to Eric?

 

Oops, first post. Nerves got to me. I will edit the correct names....lol

[MrTPlush]

Welcome to the forum.

 

I wish I had time to dream that big and put together such a post that is (no offense) pretty unrealistic. Videos game dreams are fun.

[homer]

 

Here's the possible scenarios I am dreaming up:

 

Brewers Trade Travis Shaw for Jacoby Ellsbury, Dellin Betances, either Justus Sheffield or Gleybor Torres.

 

Then, Brewers turn to the Blue Jays and offer whichever the Blue Jays desired between Sheffied or Torres (this is where setting up a hypothetical with another team beforehand comes into play) and throw in either Brett Phillips or Monte Harrison along with Luis Ortiz for Josh Donaldson and Marcus Stroman.

 

If that deal falls through, plan B is to sign Mike Moustakas.

 

Now, since the Brewers are rolling and getting somewhere, the Brewers trade Domingo Santana and another just outside a top 100 prospect to the Indians for Salazar and Mejia.

 

If this trade is accepted, then the Brewers sign Eduardo Nunez for Second Base.

 

If that trade doesn't go through, then the Brewers Trade Santana to the Royals for Whit Merrifield and Danny Duffy.

 

In the Brewers dream Scenario they would have traded Shaw and Santana along with 2 top prospect of theirs and a couple other prospects for Josh Donaldson, Dellin Betances, Marcus Stroman, and Danny Salazar along with getting Jacoby Ellsbury to platoon with Lewis Brinson/Keon Broxton and adding Eduardo Nunez through free agency.

 

The Brewers Starting 8 would be:

 

C:Manny Pina

1B:Eric Thames

2B:Eduardo Nunez

3B:Josh Donaldson

SS:Orlando Arcia

LF:Ryan Braun

CF:Keon Broxton

RF:Lewis Brinson

 

Bench:

 

C:Francisco Mejia (gradually starting)

IF:Hernan Perez, Jesus Aguilar, Jonathan Villar

OF:Jacoby Ellsbury

 

SP:Danny Salazar

Marcus Stroman

Chase Anderson

Zach Davies

Jhoulys Chacin

 

RP:Corey Knebel (closer)

Dellin Betances (setup)

Josh Hader (alternate setup with Betances dependent on situation)

Boone Logan (loogy)

Jacob Barnes

Oliver Drake?

Junior Guerra/Yovani Gallardo (long relief)

 

Welcome! Epic 1st post!

[wallus]

Welcome to the forum.

 

I wish I had time to dream that big and put together such a post that is (no offense) pretty unrealistic. Videos game dreams are fun.

 

I am sure you could had time to put together a post that big with your 6000 posts.

[MrTPlush]

Welcome to the forum.

 

I wish I had time to dream that big and put together such a post that is (no offense) pretty unrealistic. Videos game dreams are fun.

 

I am sure you could had time to put together a post that big with your 6000 posts.

 

Haha that is true. I guess it is more the type of post. Not my cup of tea to invest time in. Nothing personal against the poster just so things are clear.

[KeithStone53151]

If this whole Stearns has moves lined up if X move happens things is true, it's a tribute to the talent at all levels of the system. I feel like the Brewers are a one stop shop and have players at good rates at most positions at the mlb level and tons of sought after talent at the minor league level. Need a 3b, we've got Shaw. Need an outfielder, we've got about 6 guys. Want some prospects for a SP or 2b, we can do that. Add in having more payroll flexibility than a majority of teams this specific off season. Stearns has all the flexibility in the world and has virtually endless options.

 

It's hard to know what to root for. It would be nice to get some big time prospects in a trade for Ellsbury, or that 3 team deal with us getting Salazar and Mejia is a dream scenario. I think the more simple moves would be best. Broxton and/or Santana for pitching, though that doesn't necessarily fit the multiple moves noted throughout this thread.

 

It's been a fun couple days, hopefully we get something real in the next few days.

[brewmann04]

I just hope this Jacoby talk is just talk

[Eye Black]

A question for the group... if/when the Brewers begin making player acquisitions in the coming days or weeks, do you think they will be trades that clearly help the team immediately in 2018, or trades that prioritize longer term value with potentially less immediate impact?

 

...And yes, we all hope for both, but answer one versus the other. Think Josh Donaldson or Jose Abreu (as mentioned in this thread) versus the concept of Francisco Mejia or taking on bad contracts.

[KeithStone53151]

A question for the group... if/when the Brewers begin making player acquisitions in the coming days or weeks, do you think they will be trades that clearly help the team immediately in 2018, or trades that prioritize longer term value with potentially less immediate impact?

 

...And yes, we all hope for both, but answer one versus the other. Think Josh Donaldson or Jose Abreu (as mentioned in this thread) versus the concept of Francisco Mejia or taking on bad contracts.

 

I think it's far more likely to be win now moves vs building the system, though I expect most of the players we acquire to be with multiple years of team control. We might make a move with KC for Duffy and Herrera for example, clearly in this case we are targeting Duffy with Herrera being an add-in. I don't think we would make a trade for Herrera only.

[CanOfCorn]

I personally think that the lack of movement from a lot of teams is enticing to Stearns that maybe our window does include 2018. I also think Stearns is sold on trading Santana. He's not the typically Stearn's-guy. He plays poor defense, isn't necessarily fast, and has the build of a player that is going to decline as he ages. Sure he's still young but Stearns has Brinson and Phillips waiting in the wings and both are SUBSTANTIALLY better defenders. If HH is right about a 'significant' trade I just have a feeling it involves Santana over Shaw. Shaw fits the mold of a guy Stearns wants to keep around much more than Santana or Moustakas for that matter unless we are getting an unbelievable return and I just don't see how that's possible considering other third baseman are available both via trade and FA.

 

Santana for Kipnis and Salazar just seems more and more realistic by each passing second.

[RockCoCougars]

Reading through this, my gut feeling is there are legs to the Cleveland idea. Kipnis and Salazar both may be odd men out in Cleveland and both seem like guys the Brewers would add. I could see them having interest in Santana and possibly Villar, and this would allow them to clear salary to pursue Machado, etc. My guess is the major hangup would be whether or not the Tribe kicked any cash back due to the clause where Kipnis' option kicks in with a trade.

[sheetskout]

Santana for Kipnis and Salazar just seems more and more realistic by each passing second.

 

I've been following this thread since page one and out of all the scenarios this one seems the most likely to me at this point.

[pacopete4]

Some posters have sucked the life out of this thread for me. We all knew that these moves were not 100% but man, do some people rain on the parade.

 

Keep it coming HighHeat19. Most enjoy all the connections we can get to the inside.

[CanOfCorn]

I don't think the Ellsbury situation makes sense for either team. I'd be more inclined to think there may be something to the White Sox rumors. Maybe there is interest in Abreu and/or Shields on our side. An Abreu trade would certainly HAVE to initiate a set of other trades (unless Thames would be part of the package going back to CHW). I'm just not sure who the Sox would be of interest to them. They don't necessarily need Santana with the prospects they have already waiting for their opportunity. I know there was some talk earlier on the thread about whether Abreu is better than a Thames/Aguilar combo and I think that's almost a certainty. Put Abreu in the middle of our lineup and that is a pretty big improvement IMO. That would then fall in line with the theory that additional moves would then be made (i.e. trade for 2B, sign Cain, trade/sign SP).

 

 

Cubs are going to end up with Darvish. Seems like a certainty now.

[clancyphile]

A question for the group... if/when the Brewers begin making player acquisitions in the coming days or weeks, do you think they will be trades that clearly help the team immediately in 2018, or trades that prioritize longer term value with potentially less immediate impact?

 

...And yes, we all hope for both, but answer one versus the other. Think Josh Donaldson or Jose Abreu (as mentioned in this thread) versus the concept of Francisco Mejia or taking on bad contracts.

 

My inclination is longer-term value.

 

I don't think they are mutually exclusive. Maybe the Brewers pick up ALL of Jean Segura's salary, but in exchange for that, it limits either the payout, lands another player/prospect package, or both. The Brewers have the space to pull that off once or twice.

 

Take what I proposed with Seattle earlier in the thread:

Mariners get:

OF Lewis Brinson

1B Jesus Aguilar

 

Brewers get:

2B Jean Segura

LHP James Pazos

LHP JP Sears

RHP Robert Dugger

OF Anthony Jiminez

C Joe DeCarlo

 

This helps long-term (Pazos is controllable for four years, plus four more prospects for the farm system), and onekey to doing it is taking Segura's contract on. All of it.

[Mudville9]

This is a tricky offseason for DS and it will be interesting to see what he does. I think we can definitely contend, but I also think this team is in for a bit of a regression on top of Nelson being out for awhile. I believe the answer to the question whether we bring in more MLB or prospects will depend on what kind of prospects DS can get. We are getting to the point where the 40 man will be getting tight in the next year or two, so I think if we get solid Top 100 type prospects or lottery tickets types, deals will be made. I just don't see much value in getting a prospect that will have to be added to our 40 man next off season that is going to fall into our #20 prospect range. I think we should use some of those prospects that are in the 10-20 range and are on the 40 man or will be next year to get some talented young major leaguers like Yelich, Salazar, Archers of the world.

 

If we can turn the Santana's, Broxton's, Gatewood's, Ray's and Ponce's of the world to get top talent we can afford to do so if they are controllable. Otherwise sell off depth for higher talent as we get closer to contending.

 

FYI, I'm not saying that we can get top flight talent with only those types of players, but the more of them we throw into the deal, the less "high end talent" we would have to give up.

[TJseven7]

I wouldn't mind kipnis but at the same time his contract makes him a zero value player in my eyes. If not a slight negative. If walker comes for 10/2 paying more for kipnis isnt worth it.

 

Salazar's 3 years of control is a big get in my eyes. He's still reasonably priced and if we could add that without sending them a high level arm I'm all ears. To be honest I dont know if Santana's 4 years of control is enough to get salazar for 3. And I love Santana.

 

Anderson Salazar davies chacin woodruff puts suter as a long man and if woodruff succeeds and nelson comes back Chacin is trade bait by the deadline. Unfortunately the offense without santana is yikes. Even with Cain. Phillips would have to explode on the scene and kipnis would have to revert to .280/.340 just to hold its own vs last years offense.

[superfly]

I like the Ellsbury idea personally. Just gets another good veteran bat in here to platoon with Braun when he gets hurt and we get ahold of a top Yankees prospect. Say what you want about our own system but taking from NYY is the cream of the crop.

[82brewcrew82]

A question for the group... if/when the Brewers begin making player acquisitions in the coming days or weeks, do you think they will be trades that clearly help the team immediately in 2018, or trades that prioritize longer term value with potentially less immediate impact?

 

...And yes, we all hope for both, but answer one versus the other. Think Josh Donaldson or Jose Abreu (as mentioned in this thread) versus the concept of Francisco Mejia or taking on bad contracts.

That is the question that keeps hanging me up. If there is a move "A" that serves as the lynch pin, and that move seems to be taking on a bad contract to get prospects, how does that translate to "all in" and a cascade of other trades that back that up?

 

Remember that HH19 said t his would be a big trade. Maybe our definitions of "big" differ, but that trade would have to a) send a significant piece out of Milwaukee and b)bring back a piece/pieces that make the team better now. It can't be a move to just take on a salary dump and get prospects.

 

The only thing that I have seen that makes any sense given the information that has been shared is the Cleveland idea. The only other option is that if trade "A" is a salary dump, the acquired prospect(s) are just moving through.

[JohnBriggs12]

Reading through this, my gut feeling is there are legs to the Cleveland idea. Kipnis and Salazar both may be odd men out in Cleveland and both seem like guys the Brewers would add. I could see them having interest in Santana and possibly Villar, and this would allow them to clear salary to pursue Machado, etc. My guess is the major hangup would be whether or not the Tribe kicked any cash back due to the clause where Kipnis' option kicks in with a trade.

 

Makes a ton more sense than Ellsbury. Kipnis is overpriced, but only if you base it on his 2017. He's pretty similar over his career to Walker. They certainly could use Santana, having lost Carlos Santana in FA. They might even have interest in Thames too, opening up 1B for Shaw and freeing a spot for Brewers to sign Moustakas. Imagine an IF of Moustakas, Arcia, Kipnis, and Shaw and an OF of Braun, Cain, Phillips/Brinson with a rotation of Anderson, Davies, Salazar, Chacin, Woordruff/Suter/Guerra/Gallardo.