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Pittsburgh Gazette reporting Brew interested in Harrison. He’s 30, will be 31. Under contract for 3 years.

 

Hell yes! Go get him! Im sure he wont be cheap tho.

 

Leadoff hitter we need.

 

Harrison

Thames

Braun

Shaw

Santana

Phillips

Pina

Arcia

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Harrison is good. Harrison also doesn’t get on base enough. Career OBP of .321 leading off for us? No thanks.
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Maybe it's time to start a thread about all the MLB players the Brewers are not interested in?!

 

Harrison makes 10+ million each of the next three years (two options). Neil Walker will probably end up with a 2 year deal that will be under 10 million per season. Walker is 32 years old and over the last three seasons has slashed .272/.344/.446/.790. Josh Harrison is 30 years old and over the last three seasons has slashed .280/.326/.404/.730. Is there that much concern over Walker's age and a possible decline? Looks like Walker is a better offensive player, would be cheaper and the Brewers wouldn't have to give up prospects for him. I'll put this one down as another one in the growing column of moves that really wouldn't make any sense.

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Perez vs. LHP in 2017: .316/.342/.447 .789

 

Sogard vs. RHP in 2017: .275/.402/.372 .774

 

Harrison in 2017: .272/.339/.432 .771

 

Harrison had one better year than that, in 2014. Bottom line, Sogard and Perez combined = or > Harrison.

 

Stop using Sogards hot streak of last year to put him in the same sentence with a guy like Harrison. Sogard is not good. I’ll give you Perez and his splits vs LHP but that’s about it for that guy too.

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Perez vs. LHP in 2017: .316/.342/.447 .789

 

Sogard vs. RHP in 2017: .275/.402/.372 .774

 

Harrison in 2017: .272/.339/.432 .771

 

Harrison had one better year than that, in 2014. Bottom line, Sogard and Perez combined = or > Harrison.

 

Stop using Sogards hot streak of last year to put him in the same sentence with a guy like Harrison. Sogard is not good. I’ll give you Perez and his splits vs LHP but that’s about it for that guy too.

 

If we go into the 2018 season banking on a Sogard/Perez soft platoon at 2B, we are going to be severely disappointed. Perez's biggest selling point is his versatility, and that would take it away. While Harrison isn't a world beater, he has the ability to be a top-of-the-lineup table setter. Walker would be an ideal #2 hitter. If the team doesn't end up with one of those guys, I think they roll with Villar and hope he recaptures his 2016 form. I don't get how people believe that Sogard can consistently provide what he did during his hot streak last year, while at the same time dismissing the idea that Villar can recapture his 2016 form.

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Perez vs. LHP in 2017: .316/.342/.447 .789

 

Sogard vs. RHP in 2017: .275/.402/.372 .774

 

Harrison in 2017: .272/.339/.432 .771

 

Harrison had one better year than that, in 2014. Bottom line, Sogard and Perez combined = or > Harrison.

 

Stop using Sogards hot streak of last year to put him in the same sentence with a guy like Harrison. Sogard is not good. I’ll give you Perez and his splits vs LHP but that’s about it for that guy too.

 

If we go into the 2018 season banking on a Sogard/Perez soft platoon at 2B, we are going to be severely disappointed. Perez's biggest selling point is his versatility, and that would take it away. While Harrison isn't a world beater, he has the ability to be a top-of-the-lineup table setter. Walker would be an ideal #2 hitter. If the team doesn't end up with one of those guys, I think they roll with Villar and hope he recaptures his 2016 form. I don't get how people believe that Sogard can consistently provide what he did during his hot streak last year, while at the same time dismissing the idea that Villar can recapture his 2016 form.

 

Well... I won't go there. But you are correct.

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Perez vs. LHP in 2017: .316/.342/.447 .789

 

Sogard vs. RHP in 2017: .275/.402/.372 .774

 

Harrison in 2017: .272/.339/.432 .771

 

Harrison had one better year than that, in 2014. Bottom line, Sogard and Perez combined = or > Harrison.

 

Stop using Sogards hot streak of last year to put him in the same sentence with a guy like Harrison. Sogard is not good. I’ll give you Perez and his splits vs LHP but that’s about it for that guy too.

 

If we go into the 2018 season banking on a Sogard/Perez soft platoon at 2B, we are going to be severely disappointed. Perez's biggest selling point is his versatility, and that would take it away. While Harrison isn't a world beater, he has the ability to be a top-of-the-lineup table setter. Walker would be an ideal #2 hitter. If the team doesn't end up with one of those guys, I think they roll with Villar and hope he recaptures his 2016 form. I don't get how people believe that Sogard can consistently provide what he did during his hot streak last year, while at the same time dismissing the idea that Villar can recapture his 2016 form.

 

With Brinson, and Phillips added to the OF, even assuming the subtraction of Broxton, the usefulness of a super utility player like Perez is a lot less. Perez got a lot of AB's as the 4th OF. He'd be at best the 5th OF in that scenario, and if you go back to Villar, where you going to play him? Shaw's an everyday 3B. Arcia's the everyday SS. Sogard's available as backup plan for Villar.

 

As versatile as Perez is, if he concentrates on one position, I think he becomes a better offensive player.

 

I'm dismissing Villar because he shouldn't be handed his job back. He was behind both Sogard and Perez not to mention Walker at the end of 2017 and those guys all produced. Sogard had a .364 OBP in September.

 

Look I'm all for signing Walker as he's a proven veteran bat with more pop than Sogard and I like Sogard as a utility guy and as a guy who might bet better suited for spot play. I just don't see the need to shell out both players and money to add Harrison.

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With Brinson, and Phillips added to the OF, even assuming the subtraction of Broxton, the usefulness of a super utility player like Perez is a lot less. Perez got a lot of AB's as the 4th OF. He'd be at best the 5th OF in that scenario, and if you go back to Villar, where you going to play him? Shaw's an everyday 3B. Arcia's the everyday SS. Sogard's available as backup plan for Villar.

 

As versatile as Perez is, if he concentrates on one position, I think he becomes a better offensive player.

 

I'm dismissing Villar because he shouldn't be handed his job back. He was behind both Sogard and Perez not to mention Walker at the end of 2017 and those guys all produced. Sogard had a .364 OBP in September.

 

Look I'm all for signing Walker as he's a proven veteran bat with more pop than Sogard and I like Sogard as a utility guy and as a guy who might bet better suited for spot play. I just don't see the need to shell out both players and money to add Harrison.

 

If there are no significant changes to the MLB roster, we will likely have to cut loose one of Aguilar/Perez. As you've noted, Perez's versatility isn't as critical given we are carrying 4 OF of which 2 can play CF well. If we go the simple/obvious route of trading spare parts for what we can get and keeping the roster intact, I would anticipate both Broxton and Perez being dealt.

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Perez vs. LHP in 2017: .316/.342/.447 .789

 

Sogard vs. RHP in 2017: .275/.402/.372 .774

 

Harrison in 2017: .272/.339/.432 .771

 

Harrison had one better year than that, in 2014. Bottom line, Sogard and Perez combined = or > Harrison.

 

Stop using Sogards hot streak of last year to put him in the same sentence with a guy like Harrison. Sogard is not good. I’ll give you Perez and his splits vs LHP but that’s about it for that guy too.

 

If we go into the 2018 season banking on a Sogard/Perez soft platoon at 2B, we are going to be severely disappointed. Perez's biggest selling point is his versatility, and that would take it away. While Harrison isn't a world beater, he has the ability to be a top-of-the-lineup table setter. Walker would be an ideal #2 hitter. If the team doesn't end up with one of those guys, I think they roll with Villar and hope he recaptures his 2016 form. I don't get how people believe that Sogard can consistently provide what he did during his hot streak last year, while at the same time dismissing the idea that Villar can recapture his 2016 form.

I really enjoyed this point. Sogard had a decent 2017 while Villar had an elite level 2016. If Sogard had a career of putting up 2017 numbers, I would be much more comfortable with him. However, he has a career line of .245/.313/.638 in 1630 PAs whereas Villar has .256/.325/.722 in 1773 PAs. If handing out the 2B job, I would rather see if Villar can regain that elite level of offensive production rather than taking the low floor-low ceiling production of Sogard.

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On the topic of Josh Harrison, I really enjoy him as a player and think he would be a solid addition to the Brewers as currently constructed. However, is his current contract, 1 year at $10.25 with two team options of $10.5 and $11.5, with buyouts of $1 million and $500k, worth it? He doesn't walk or strikeout much. He has only two seasons of double digit HR and has a career OBP of .321.

 

In my opinion, if the Brewers could get Neil Walker on the same deal, I think that would be money better spent given Walker's career OBP is higher (.341), brings more power (8 straight seasons of double digit HR) and won't cost prospects like Harrison would.

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Harrison's a nice player, but I kinda give the same argument when discussing trading for pitchers. I'd rather just spend the money on similar or even slightly inferior free agent than spend the prospect capital. Granted, the Pirates kinda gave away Cole. If he was really, really cheap in terms of prospects...then maybe.
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On the topic of Josh Harrison, I really enjoy him as a player and think he would be a solid addition to the Brewers as currently constructed. However, is his current contract, 1 year at $10.25 with two team options of $10.5 and $11.5, with buyouts of $1 million and $500k, worth it? He doesn't walk or strikeout much. He has only two seasons of double digit HR and has a career OBP of .321.

 

In my opinion, if the Brewers could get Neil Walker on the same deal, I think that would be money better spent given Walker's career OBP is higher (.341), brings more power (8 straight seasons of double digit HR) and won't cost prospects like Harrison would.

This.

 

Harrison's a nice player, but you can get Walker for similar (or less) money - and Walker is a better player. He hits for decent power, gets on base at a good clip, and plays okay defense. At two years old, Walker is probably a bit more of a risk.

 

As I said, Harrison is a good player and I wouldn't have a problem if we got him. I think Walker offers a bit more - and he won't cost any prospect capital to acquire.

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Harrison is one of my favorite non-Brewer players, so I'd be all for getting him assuming the prospect cost isn't abhorrent.

 

The Pirates just traded McCutchen to the Giants for their #4 and #15 prospects. The Giants system is horrible, though. I would imagine that two prospects in the team's top 30 that are close to MLB-ready would probably get it done. The Nottingham/Derby combo they originally acquired from the A's for Khris Davis would probably be about right. I doubt they'd want Broxton back, but they do have an OF opening, too. They'd have to give up much more than Harrison to get Santana.

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If he had a year or two left, I would be mildly interested. Three years? No way. (Ditto for Walker.)

 

2 of those 3 years for Harrison are option years, options that I would think are unlikely to be picked up as they are above market value(approx 10 million apiece). Only 1 year guaranteed. It's tough to justify giving up much value for Harrison considering Walker is still available and very few teams have a need at 2b.

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The ghost of Scotter says hello once again. Trading assets to fill the 2B role is insane. We have plenty of 2B options including resigning Walker.

 

Just go with Villar and Sogard for another year until Dubon then Hiura are ready.

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In a statement released to The Athletic on Tuesday, Pirates infielder Josh Harrison said that he'd prefer to be traded if the Pirates don't expect to contend in 2018 or 2019.

 

Harrison sees which way the wind is blowing after the recent trades of Gerrit Cole and Andrew McCutchen. "If indeed the team does not expect to contend this year or next, perhaps it would be better for all involved, that I also am traded," Harrison said in part of the statement. "I want what is best for the organization that gave me a chance to be a Big Leaguer." The versatile 30-year-old is owed $10 million in 2018, with a $10.5 million club option (or $1 million buyout) for 2019 and an $11.5 million club option (or $500,000 buyout) for 2020. Rosenthal writes that the Mets, Yankees, and Brewers are among the teams with reported interest in Harrison. If the Pirates don't feel they are getting fair value, they could easily hold and wait until the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline.

 

Source: The AthleticJan 16 - 2:09 PM

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