Packers Offseason Moves- Latest: Gutekunst Hired as GM, signed to 5-year deal (Joe Philbin-OC, Mike Pettine-DC)

[pacopete4]

1. Part ways with Capers

2. Hire Dave Aranda to replace Capers

3. Thompson retires (or asked to step down)

4. Hire Elliot as the new GM

5. Restructure: Clay Matthews, Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb

6. Franchise Davante Adams (concussions scare me away from 5-year deal)

7. Sign DeMarcus Lawrence if the Cowboys are dumb enough to let him walk.

[superfly]

Offseason moves? Status quo on Lombardi avenue. Nobody will get fired, nobody will be signed in FA, and well draft "some guys."

[pacopete4]

Offseason moves? Status quo on Lombardi avenue. Nobody will get fired, nobody will be signed in FA, and well draft "some guys."

 

Thanks for playing, Debbie Downer. Lol It was supposed to be a thread on what you would like to see them do.

[FVBrewerFan]

Fire TT, MM, and most of the coaching staff. Cut Matthews, cut Nelson. Restructure Cobb. Do that and you free up almost $30MM in cap space, depending on how Cobbs deal is structured. Use that money to sign a stud CB, a pass rusher, and impact TE.

 

Bring in a decent, cheap WR FA, Rodgers will make him good. Concentrate on O line in the draft.

[superfly]

Offseason moves? Status quo on Lombardi avenue. Nobody will get fired, nobody will be signed in FA, and well draft "some guys."

 

Thanks for playing, Debbie Downer. Lol It was supposed to be a thread on what you would like to see them do.

 

Lol. Oh I'd like to see some rear ends lit on fire don't get me wrong, but I just don't see it. We won too many games while AR was out so it doesn't "look" like we imploded. Capers deserves retirement and in my opinion McCarthy deserves a hot seat if not a pink slip too.

 

I think if Capers gets canned we should consider ourselves lucky. This clan we have running things is very tightly woven and probably all stays or all goes.

[LouisEly]

1. Part ways with Capers

2. Hire Dave Aranda to replace Capers

3. Thompson retires (or asked to step down)

4. Hire Elliot as the new GM

5. Restructure: Clay Matthews, Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb

6. Franchise Davante Adams (concussions scare me away from 5-year deal)

7. Sign DeMarcus Lawrence if the Cowboys are dumb enough to let him walk.

Hard to argue with this list.

 

Overall, TT is good (not stellar, but very good) at drafting but his refusal to trade late round picks to shore up team needs has cost this team dearly. MM is not the problem.

[OnaBadger58]

1. Fire Capers

2. Trade for Devante Parker

3. Cut/Restructure Clay, Cobb, Nelson

4. Sign Trey Burton and DeMarcus Lawrence

5. Draft Harold Landry (OLB Boston College)

6. Sign Adams

7. Move Ty back to the slot

[GAME05]

Fire the OC. Bennett is just there to implement what TT tells him to do. When you've got three very good WRs and every game two disappear, there's something wrong with your plan. Fire HC and DC. They've been together so long they're really a package deal at this point. Personally I like to evaluate coaches not on record, but if they're getting the most out of their players, and the coaching staff in GB has not, consistently. Sure they go to the playoffs almost every year, but when you've got stars at the best QB in football, that's a given, so I expect more.

 

Cut Cobb. Three high-priced WRs is too many, and Adams and Cobb basically play the same position, making Nelson more valuable than Cobb. Second choice is get Adams on a one-year deal and cut both Cobb and Nelson, and draft a WR in the first round.

 

Trade Ty Montgomery if someone would give up a 2nd round pick, otherwise carry three RBs next season and assume some injuries.

 

Draft: Pass Rusher, OT, WR, OL and in that order.

 

FA: A good crop of CBs available this coming year, and/or a pass rusher if one is available.

 

Send TT to forcible retirement. He's put good players here, but there's a point when you have two patient GMs-in-waiting, it's better to hire one of them than to let both walk for another year or two of TT.

 

Ultimately GB does have a pretty good team and would probably have been a SB contender if not for Rodgers and the OT injuries. But ultimately sticking with the status quo only gives you status quo, and what we've been doing just isn't good enough. All MM has done lately is lose to the Cardinals in the playoffs and miss a SB appearance due almost exclusively to bad playcalling against Seattle. And GB is in an enviable position to hire coaches because the new people won't have to do something like turn around an 0-16 Browns team and will be starting with an immediate SB contender.

[LouisEly]

Adams and Cobb don't play the same position. Adams is a boundary receiver and Cobb plays the slot, sometimes lining up in the backfield. Cobb and Nelson play more of the same position.

[homer]

Move Jeff Janis to the #1 receiver. He just needs playing time.

[pacopete4]

Move Jeff Janis to the #1 receiver. He just needs playing time.

 

[sarcasm]Janis wouldn't have fumbled the game away yesterday. Probably would have housed it.[/sarcasm]

[DHonks]

I'm tired of Ted building his teams to grind out games in December. With it generally warm these days most of the year, and plenty of dome games in December and January, we have seen that our teams are much slower than our opponents. I think it was 2 years ago when the Packers lost and the beat writers said they needed more speed--like the Cardinals. But we haven't successfully used our roster. Clay Matthews is a shell of his former self. Beat writers still like to say good things, but it's painfully obvious that he's terrible at setting the edge, nearly always being fooled into over pursuing and vacating the hole.

 

While we have plenty of money available, Cobb, Nelson, and Matthews all should have pay cuts to keep their spots.

[lcbj68c]

Moves I want?

 

1. Fire DC Dom Capers on Tuesday January 2nd, 2018.

2. Hire DC....Jeremy Pruitt

3. Tell Ted Thompson to Retire/Move to Scout or Janitor, or whatever. Do it well before the 2018 draft. Promote Wolf.

4. Resign Morgan Burnett, Davante Adams, Brett Goode, Corey Linsley at or slightly above reasonable market value

5. Resign Richard Rodgers, Davon House, and Jahri Evans at or under market value

6. Let Brooks, Dial, Goodson, and Janis walk.

7. Let the 2019 impending free agents worry about itself in March of 2019.

8. Sign Le'Veon Bell to 5yr/$65M deal. (Assuming he is not franchised by Pittsburgh)

9. Sign EJ Gaines/Malcolm Butler/Impact CB with cold weather success in Free Agency.

10. Sign Preston Brown/Demario Davis/Avery Williamson/Solid Tackling Type LB in Free Agency at Market Value

11. Draft Roquon Smith LB Georgia in the 1st round (pick 15 or so)

12. Draft Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma in the 2nd round (Pick 45 or so)

13. Draft OT and OG in rounds 3 and 4.

14. Stop drafting DT in the first six rounds. Find UDA or journeymen DT.

[adambr2]

I hate the position that Trevathan and Thomas Davis have put us in with Adams. We almost have to re-sign him, or our WR corps is going to be ugly fast.

 

That being said he's racking up a heavy concussion history early in his career and is inching closer to Sam Shields territory where we can't be sure how long of a career he'll have. Not a good thing.

[adambr2]

Moves I want?

 

1. Fire DC Dom Capers on Tuesday January 2nd, 2018.

2. Hire DC....Jeremy Pruitt

3. Tell Ted Thompson to Retire/Move to Scout or Janitor, or whatever. Do it well before the 2018 draft. Promote Wolf.

4. Resign Morgan Burnett, Davante Adams, Brett Goode, Corey Linsley at or slightly above reasonable market value

5. Resign Richard Rodgers, Davon House, and Jahri Evans at or under market value

6. Let Brooks, Dial, Goodson, and Janis walk.

7. Let the 2019 impending free agents worry about itself in March of 2019.

8. Sign Le'Veon Bell to 5yr/$65M deal. (Assuming he is not franchised by Pittsburgh)

9. Sign EJ Gaines/Malcolm Butler/Impact CB with cold weather success in Free Agency.

10. Sign Preston Brown/Demario Davis/Avery Williamson/Solid Tackling Type LB in Free Agency at Market Value

11. Draft Roquon Smith LB Georgia in the 1st round (pick 15 or so)

12. Draft Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma in the 2nd round (Pick 45 or so)

13. Draft OT and OG in rounds 3 and 4.

14. Stop drafting DT in the first six rounds. Find UDA or journeymen DT.

 

The needs seem to be growing with each successive year.

 

WR is turning into a need even if Adams is re-signed, with Nelson and Cobb looking lucky to even finish out their respective deals in 2018.

 

TE is once again a need with the failed Bennett experiment.

 

I'm ok with a Jones/Williams committee at RB going forward. As much as a guy like Le'Veon Bell would be awesome, we have too many needs elsewhere to invest big money or more picks to upgrade from Jones/Williams.

 

We may not be able to count on Bulaga moving forward, and if not, Spriggs is a pretty low end option at tackle. I assume Linsley will be re-signed but C is also a need if he is not.

 

It's hard to even pin down our needs on defense, trying to separate where the deficiencies spring from talent or scheme. I would have thought we were pretty set at safety coming into this year but they sure were a disaster this season. With Randall having a nice year, Jones having talent and King back next year we don't seem to have as pressing of a need at corner as we did coming into this year. Yet despite all this the secondary continues to be a problem.

 

Daniels and Clark appear to make up 2/3 of a pretty good base D-line, yet, recurring theme here, the production doesn't match the talent.

 

Martinez is a nice ILB but could use a coverage ILB to complement him.

 

The only clear need on defense is a need for a much improved pass rush to come from somewhere.

[pacopete4]

What is the point of signing/drafting a tight end if Rodgers doesn't use them? If I was a decent tight end in this league I wouldn't give Rodgers a second look. I also wouldn't sign here if I was a guy like Bell. Rodgers doesn't want a running game and rarely throws the ball to them either. It's a wide receiver or bust system. Rodgers and McCarthy only have themselves to blame for that.

[adambr2]

What is the point of signing/drafting a tight end if Rodgers doesn't use them? If I was a decent tight end in this league I wouldn't give Rodgers a second look. I also wouldn't sign here if I was a guy like Bell. Rodgers doesn't want a running game and rarely throws the ball to them either. It's a wide receiver or bust system. Rodgers and McCarthy only have themselves to blame for that.

 

Don't really agree with this. While Cook wasn't particularly productive last year most of that was from him missing almost half the season. Once he was back and acclimated Rodgers was looking to him often. He got a whopping 32 targets in 3 playoff games.

 

I remember when Jermichael Finley was here Rodgers would look for him almost to a fault. I think the lack of TE production the last few years has a lot more to do with us not having good TE's than Rodgers not being willing to utilize them.

[brewcrewdue80]

Dom Capers-gone along with the tired 3-4 scheme and hire a DC that will run a 4-3 scheme or even some 5-2 scheme.

Draft all offensive players this draft as you know how to run your offense, you won't know how defense runs the new DC scheme.

Sign a DE in FA to fill out the new 4-3-a pass rusher would be nice next to Daniels.

Attempt to trade Matthews before cutting him outright to get out of his payroll obligation. (use the money to perform above)

Sign a FA O-Lineman. Right Tackle preferred, but I'd take any upgrade at Guard or Center.

 

If there's inability to sign a FA from the above recommendations-go sign a Safety and consider trading Dix in draft for a 2nd-4th round pick to use on Offense.

 

Tight Ends! draft or acquire one. It's terrible to be lacking in this for so long. (Fumagalli?)

[pacopete4]

What is the point of signing/drafting a tight end if Rodgers doesn't use them? If I was a decent tight end in this league I wouldn't give Rodgers a second look. I also wouldn't sign here if I was a guy like Bell. Rodgers doesn't want a running game and rarely throws the ball to them either. It's a wide receiver or bust system. Rodgers and McCarthy only have themselves to blame for that.

 

Don't really agree with this. While Cook wasn't particularly productive last year most of that was from him missing almost half the season. Once he was back and acclimated Rodgers was looking to him often. He got a whopping 32 targets in 3 playoff games.

 

I remember when Jermichael Finley was here Rodgers would look for him almost to a fault. I think the lack of TE production the last few years has a lot more to do with us not having good TE's than Rodgers not being willing to utilize them.

 

Lance Kendricks is going on to his worst statistical year, by far, with the the best QB he's played with, by far.

[adambr2]

What is the point of signing/drafting a tight end if Rodgers doesn't use them? If I was a decent tight end in this league I wouldn't give Rodgers a second look. I also wouldn't sign here if I was a guy like Bell. Rodgers doesn't want a running game and rarely throws the ball to them either. It's a wide receiver or bust system. Rodgers and McCarthy only have themselves to blame for that.

 

Don't really agree with this. While Cook wasn't particularly productive last year most of that was from him missing almost half the season. Once he was back and acclimated Rodgers was looking to him often. He got a whopping 32 targets in 3 playoff games.

 

I remember when Jermichael Finley was here Rodgers would look for him almost to a fault. I think the lack of TE production the last few years has a lot more to do with us not having good TE's than Rodgers not being willing to utilize them.

 

Lance Kendricks is going on to his worst statistical year, by far, with the the best QB he's played with, by far.

 

Well, Lance Kendricks isn't a #1 TE and Rodgers has better targets to throw to. Same with Richard Rodgers who I doubt on the other end of the spectrum is going to put up a 58-510-8 TD season elsewhere.

 

My point is simply that if we had a true #1 TE, a Kelce or Ertz type, I don't think they would need to have any concerns about Rodgers looking their way or trying to feed them targets.

 

Bennett isn't an elite TE and Rodgers was certainly making an effort to get him the ball (31 targets in 5 games prior to his injury).

[homer]

They had a TE catch 55 - 60 balls just a few years ago. Jared Cook was a big part of the offense at the end of last year (he averaged over 9 targets per game the last 6 games including playoffs).

[pacopete4]

They had a TE catch 55 - 60 balls just a few years ago. Jared Cook was a big part of the offense at the end of last year (he averaged over 9 targets per game the last 6 games including playoffs).

 

Maybe it is just the personnel but it just seems like they've went away from an offense that includes the tight end. This week was also glaring for me that maybe Rodgers is a bit selfish when running our offense. Only 13 rushing attempts? That's just flat out unacceptable. We finally have a two-headed monster back there and we could have done a way better job at limiting the time our defense had to be on the field if we chose to run a game plan to do so. Maybe we do need a different offensive coach. One that would tell Rodgers to get the ball out of his hands, on time, and to rely more on the run game to churn that clock. Seems to be working in places like Philly, LA, Jax, etc...

[docduany]

1. Fire Dom - Thanks for the Ring

2. Restructure or cut Jordy, Clay, Bulaga, and possibly Cobb.

3. Sign 3rd tier free agents, similar to what Ted did this off season.

[OnaBadger58]

They had a TE catch 55 - 60 balls just a few years ago. Jared Cook was a big part of the offense at the end of last year (he averaged over 9 targets per game the last 6 games including playoffs).

 

Maybe it is just the personnel but it just seems like they've went away from an offense that includes the tight end.

I think the personnel had a lot to do with it to start the season. Losing Bak and Bulaga to start the season really limited the TE position imo. Bennett spent a lot of time helping the tackles and fading off to the flats. I do think (why I had it in moves that I want) a TE like Trey Burton is the type of TE this offense needs. He fits more of the Jordan Reed mold.

[jerichoholicninja]

Realistically, Kendricks has played 1 game with Rodgers and the rest with Hundley as his QB. I don't think you can glean much about him from this season.