Wily Peralta gets a major leaguer deal. No really!

[JohnBriggs12]

How bad is the pitching situation in Kansas City? They just gave Wily Peralta a major leaguer deal worth $1.575 million plus incentives. Good for Wily. Hope he rebounds though I have my doubts.

[dacbrewers]

Royals looking for a tank year. Must have a great agent.

[jerichoholicninja]

Well they had all those former Brewers when they won the World Series so they needed to replace Lorenzo to get the magic back.

[pacopete4]

What will be more frustrating is if he somehow figured it out.

[MadThinker88]

Great News! Free Willie Peralta the Penguin Whale will be pitching in the AL Central.

I will enjoy watching Tribe hitters feast on the meatballs he soft tosses toward the plate.

 

:-)

[MadScientist]

Its not like it was Suppan money. If he stinks he'll be cut without too much pain. If the change of scenery helps him regain form, they get a decent pitcher for cheap. I have no problem with him not being here, but I don't fault KC for giving him this contract.

[dacbrewers]

Oh totally forgot Yost was still in KC. Buddy signing.

[nate82]

Oh totally forgot Yost was still in KC. Buddy signing.

Peralta wasn't even with the team when Yost was here so not sure what your point is here.

 

Well he was in the minors in 2008 but I doubt Yost even knew who he was in 2008.

[JohnBriggs12]

Great News! Free Willie Peralta the Penguin Whale will be pitching in the AL Central.

I will enjoy watching Tribe hitters feast on the meatballs he soft tosses toward the plate.

 

:-)

 

Nobody's ever accused him of soft tossing and his fastball averaged 96 last year. Velocity has never been his problem. Command and movement are the issues. Back in 2014, his fastball had more sink and he commanded his slider better.

[TURBO]

...and so begins the Cy Young transformation of Wily Peralta.

 

Wwait, the Royals signed him, not the Cardinals? Ok, scratch that.

[AKCheesehead]

Haha I have got to admit, there was a part of me that was afraid the cardinals would pick him up.

[dacbrewers]

Don't understand the move. It's not like the pitching coach saw something in Peralta that he was going to tweak because the Royals recently fired their pitching coach. KC star article mentioned them transitioning to younger players.

[KeithStone53151]

Don't understand the move. It's not like the pitching coach saw something in Peralta that he was going to tweak because the Royals recently fired their pitching coach. KC star article mentioned them transitioning to younger players.

 

The Royals(or any rebuilding team) are a very logical destination for a guy like Wily. A change of scenery candidate. The stuff he throws is good(good velocity), he needs to develop a 3rd pitch and improve control/consistency. It's probably fairly unlikely that he succeeds in KC and provides any value, but then at the very least he'd be helping them tank for a draft pick. Best case scenario would be some combination of the wake-up call/change of scenery/pitching coach change/etc leading to significant improvement and a flip for prospects candidate.

 

I can see the argument against putting an old, failed prospect in the rotation in favor of young guys. That only works if you have enough capable young guys to fill the rotation/bullpen. I'm not sure if they intend to have him start or not, I would assume relief though.

[jerichoholicninja]

His stuff isn't good. He throws moderately hard but is nothing special for today's game and with no movement. Every now and then he'll throw a decent slider but those are few and far between. KC is the type of team that he should sign with but I doubt he's in the bigs come May.

[KeithStone53151]

His stuff isn't good. He throws moderately hard but is nothing special for today's game and with no movement. Every now and then he'll throw a decent slider but those are few and far between. KC is the type of team that he should sign with but I doubt he's in the bigs come May.

 

Fangraphs has him at 96.5 on the season, that's a bit better than moderately hard. And it was higher out of the bullpen. And his sinker has always had a good amount of movement, so saying no movement is absolutely false. And he throws more good sliders than you give him credit for but his slider doesn't have as much movement(especially late movement) as you'd like. He also only really has the 2 pitches. Hence why his OPS against RHB career is .722 while .835 against LHB career.

[bill hAll Star]

I never understand why anyone laughs at these moves. Sure, they don't work out all the time, but it's absolutely worth the risk, especially for a rebuilding team.

 

The Royals literally just did almost the same thing with Mike Minor, who didn't have the complete collapse that Peralta did and has a bit more of a diverse pitching repertoire to work with, but also did not set the world on fire with the Braves and basically needed to have his arm rebuilt over a 2 year absence from the majors.

[pacopete4]

I won't laugh. I still think Wily finds a role in someone bullpen.

[CheezWizHed]

Movement wasn't his problem, nor speed. It was control. When a MLB player can ignore anything that spins, then T up on a 96 FB down the middle, big things happen.

[FVBrewerFan]

Replace Peraltas name and his former team, and it's exactly the type of signing Stearns would make. And why Not? Cheap, one year, no downside. Upside is you get the pitcher who was very good for a stretch.

[jerichoholicninja]

Replace Peraltas name and his former team, and it's exactly the type of signing Stearns would make. And why Not? Cheap, one year, no downside. Upside is you get the pitcher who was very good for a stretch.

 

Maybe last year, but signing a guy like this for 2018 would not be a smart move. And which stretch are we talking about? His 2014 that was only above average and looks so good because of a few good months? He's progressively put up worse numbers as his career went on. We could sign Garza to a cheap one year contract too, doesn't mean it's a good idea.

[bill hAll Star]

Replace Peraltas name and his former team, and it's exactly the type of signing Stearns would make. And why Not? Cheap, one year, no downside. Upside is you get the pitcher who was very good for a stretch.

 

Maybe last year, but signing a guy like this for 2018 would not be a smart move. And which stretch are we talking about? His 2014 that was only above average and looks so good because of a few good months? He's progressively put up worse numbers as his career went on. We could sign Garza to a cheap one year contract too, doesn't mean it's a good idea.

 

Sure, he got worse and there’s a 75% chance he’s either just as bad or just average as he was prior to that. What if they find a mechanical issue to fix and it improves his control? He’s got something to work with unlike the 2018 version of Matt Garza.

[JohnBriggs12]

I never understand why anyone laughs at these moves. Sure, they don't work out all the time, but it's absolutely worth the risk, especially for a rebuilding team.

 

The Royals literally just did almost the same thing with Mike Minor, who didn't have the complete collapse that Peralta did and has a bit more of a diverse pitching repertoire to work with, but also did not set the world on fire with the Braves and basically needed to have his arm rebuilt over a 2 year absence from the majors.

 

The Padres did similar deals with the trio of Cahill, Chacin, and Richard last year, but all 3 of those guys had much much better form the prior year than Peralta. Frankly, any time Peralta entered the game, I just hoped none of the shots he gave up hit him in his head. Minor is not a good comparison either. His issue was injuries. He missed 2 full seasons. Peralta's never had any arm issues. Mike Fiers is the kind a guy you give a deal to like Peralta's. Miguel Gonzalez who was at times pretty good for the White Sox is another. There are others. Most of those guys get signed in late January at the earliest. It's shocking a team would sign Peralta at this point in the offseason.

[dacbrewers]

Replace Peraltas name and his former team, and it's exactly the type of signing Stearns would make. And why Not? Cheap, one year, no downside. Upside is you get the pitcher who was very good for a stretch.

 

There is a downside, especially if you have a team contending. Sure no one thought the Brewers were going to be contending last year but take Feliz for instance, the downside was more blown saves and losses than expected and maybe it kept them out of the playoffs.

[bill hAll Star]

I never understand why anyone laughs at these moves. Sure, they don't work out all the time, but it's absolutely worth the risk, especially for a rebuilding team.

 

The Royals literally just did almost the same thing with Mike Minor, who didn't have the complete collapse that Peralta did and has a bit more of a diverse pitching repertoire to work with, but also did not set the world on fire with the Braves and basically needed to have his arm rebuilt over a 2 year absence from the majors.

 

The Padres did similar deals with the trio of Cahill, Chacin, and Richard last year, but all 3 of those guys had much much better form the prior year than Peralta. Frankly, any time Peralta entered the game, I just hoped none of the shots he gave up hit him in his head. Minor is not a good comparison either. His issue was injuries. He missed 2 full seasons. Peralta's never had any arm issues. Mike Fiers is the kind a guy you give a deal to like Peralta's. Miguel Gonzalez who was at times pretty good for the White Sox is another. There are others. Most of those guys get signed in late January at the earliest. It's shocking a team would sign Peralta at this point in the offseason.

 

It's a million bucks, basically. All of the other guys you mention got at least $5 million and some got multiple years.

[coolhandluke121]

Replace Peraltas name and his former team, and it's exactly the type of signing Stearns would make. And why Not? Cheap, one year, no downside. Upside is you get the pitcher who was very good for a stretch.

 

Maybe last year, but signing a guy like this for 2018 would not be a smart move. And which stretch are we talking about? His 2014 that was only above average and looks so good because of a few good months? He's progressively put up worse numbers as his career went on. We could sign Garza to a cheap one year contract too, doesn't mean it's a good idea.

 

Eh, he was really good when he came back up at the end of 2016 too. 61.2 IP's, just over 6 per start, 20 earned runs, WHIP of 1.15, all against a really tough schedule (2 vs CHC, 1 @ Coors, 1 @ Cincy, games at Miller against really good offenses like Pitt and STL, game at Seattle).

 

I think he's a headcase, which is just as bad as not having talent, but he definitely does have talent.