Christian Yelich

[KeithStone53151]

 

Not sure how knowledgeable this guy is but........

 

McCalvy quoted it in a tweet of his own, for me that provides significantly more credibility. A trade for Yelich is one of my least desired off-season moves of the possiblities floated to this point.

 

If that is true you really must not like anything. 4 WAR players who play decent defense and are ascending with 370 OBPs and 300 averages with 20 HR and 15 steals must really be terrible baseball players.

 

It's not that I don't like yelich, I just know what the cost is and prefer to use our bullets on pitching rather than a position that is a strength.

[82brewcrew82]

Haurdicourt doesnt see Stearns giving up Brinson for Yelich since we didnt give him up for Gray or Quintana.

*rolls eyes*

[nate82]

Haurdicourt doesnt see Stearns giving up Brinson for Yelich since we didnt give him up for Gray or Quintana.

 

Yelich has more value than Gray does and Quintana has a slight edge over Yelich. Gray is a #3 type pitcher and you don't give up players like Brinson for a #3 type pitcher. Quintana is closer to a #1 type pitcher and I would give up Brinson for him but I can see why Stearns wouldn't give him up for Quintana.

 

I think Brinson, Peralta, and Dubon is what I would be comfortable in giving up for Yelich. That may not be enough for the Marlins.

[DR28]

Haurdicourt doesnt see Stearns giving up Brinson for Yelich since we didnt give him up for Gray or Quintana.

*rolls eyes*

 

Haha right!

[JohnBriggs12]

Haurdicourt doesnt see Stearns giving up Brinson for Yelich since we didnt give him up for Gray or Quintana.

 

That would be nuts. One is a proven player with 5 years of control. The other is a prospect with 6 years of control. It's a no-brainer..

[tmwiese55]

Well it depends what would be with him. Like the logic of they wouldn't trade him for Quintana/Gray so they won't now. That's not really accurate, they wouldn't trade him plus the three or four other prospects it would take for those pitchers. Quintana took a guy ranked top 10 and three others. Same here, straight up is different than Brinson, Santana, and Ortiz or whatever other prospects would be also in on it. It's just not an accurate way to describe it.

 

And in this case you have Santana already sitting there already who doesn't cost you anything to just keep him and have him play.

[82brewcrew82]

There are other ways to get pitching than trading Brinson for it.

[KeithStone53151]

Haurdicourt doesnt see Stearns giving up Brinson for Yelich since we didnt give him up for Gray or Quintana.

 

That would be nuts. One is a proven player with 5 years of control. The other is a prospect with 6 years of control. It's a no-brainer..

 

Judge and bellinger were mere prospects to start 2017, judge in particular had a dreadful 2016 of limited at bats. Both those guys are more valuable than yelich at this point, and it isn't all that close.

[tmwiese55]

Haurdicourt doesnt see Stearns giving up Brinson for Yelich since we didnt give him up for Gray or Quintana.

 

That would be nuts. One is a proven player with 5 years of control. The other is a prospect with 6 years of control. It's a no-brainer..

 

Judge and bellinger were mere prospects to start 2017, judge in particular had a dreadful 2016 of limited at bats. Both those guys are more valuable than yelich at this point, and it isn't all that close.

 

And tons of guys flop too or just become ok/mediocre players too.

[JosephC]

If Yelich is valued at a 4 WAR player over the next five years, which is a reasonable estimate as that is pretty much the average over the last three years, then his price will be way more than most people anticipate. Brinson is a mere start.

 

If I'm the Marlins GM, this is the first package I ask for:

 

Milwaukee gets:

OF-Christian Yelich

3B-Martin Prado

 

Miami gets:

OF-Keon Broxton

OF-Lewis Brinson

RHP-Brandon Woodruff

RHP-Luis Ortiz

2B-Isan Diaz

[82brewcrew82]

If Yelich is valued at a 4 WAR player over the next five years, which is a reasonable estimate as that is pretty much the average over the last three years, then his price will be way more than most people anticipate. Brinson is a mere start.

 

If I'm the Marlins GM, this is the first package I ask for:

 

Milwaukee gets:

OF-Christian Yelich

3B-Martin Prado

 

Miami gets:

OF-Keon Broxton

OF-Lewis Brinson

RHP-Brandon Woodruff

RHP-Luis Ortiz

2B-Isan Diaz

Nope.

[tmwiese55]

I'm really not sure if we should be emptying our farm and you have to assume P prospects would be involved, kind of the last thing MKE should be giving up. Kind of a numbers game there so need as many as possible to get a few to hit. Don't want to play scared but the Nats, Dodgers, and Cubs are basically loaded. I'd rather do smaller less risky things to be in the WC chase and with some luck the division while keeping the farm intact for a couple years down the line. Just adding one more P along the lines of Cobb probably puts their over/under on Ws around 84-85. You're involved in that ballpark while keeping your farm and still have fairly low payroll.

[82brewcrew82]

I'm really not sure if we should be emptying our farm and you have to assume P prospects would be involved, kind of the last thing MKE should be giving up. Kind of a numbers game there so need as many as possible to get a few to hit. Don't want to play scared but the Nats, Dodgers, and Cubs are basically loaded. I'd rather do smaller less risky things to be in the WC chase and with some luck the division while keeping the farm intact for a couple years down the line. Just adding one more P along the lines of Cobb probably puts their over/under on Ws around 84-85. You're involved in that ballpark while keeping your farm and still have fairly low payroll.

I'd go Brinson, Burns, I. Diaz, Peralta, and Pennington and not feel like the farm was emptied.

[TURBO]

Why on earth does every made up offer on these boards always includes Isan Diaz? Geez, it's maddening.

[82brewcrew82]

Why on earth does every made up offer on these boards always includes Isan Diaz? Geez, it's maddening.

Hiura is coming quick so one of those guys is expendable.

[TURBO]

I'm really not sure if we should be emptying our farm and you have to assume P prospects would be involved, kind of the last thing MKE should be giving up. Kind of a numbers game there so need as many as possible to get a few to hit. Don't want to play scared but the Nats, Dodgers, and Cubs are basically loaded. I'd rather do smaller less risky things to be in the WC chase and with some luck the division while keeping the farm intact for a couple years down the line. Just adding one more P along the lines of Cobb probably puts their over/under on Ws around 84-85. You're involved in that ballpark while keeping your farm and still have fairly low payroll.

I'd go Brinson, Burns, I. Diaz, Peralta, and Pennington and not feel like the farm was emptied.

 

[adambr2]

Why on earth does every made up offer on these boards always includes Isan Diaz? Geez, it's maddening.

 

Because he's a valuable trade chip and I'm sure if we're going to hold onto one of our two big 2B prospects we'd prefer to keep Keston Hiura.

[82brewcrew82]

I'm really not sure if we should be emptying our farm and you have to assume P prospects would be involved, kind of the last thing MKE should be giving up. Kind of a numbers game there so need as many as possible to get a few to hit. Don't want to play scared but the Nats, Dodgers, and Cubs are basically loaded. I'd rather do smaller less risky things to be in the WC chase and with some luck the division while keeping the farm intact for a couple years down the line. Just adding one more P along the lines of Cobb probably puts their over/under on Ws around 84-85. You're involved in that ballpark while keeping your farm and still have fairly low payroll.

I'd go Brinson, Burns, I. Diaz, Peralta, and Pennington and not feel like the farm was emptied.

 

Sorry. It just makes sense with Castro probably a short term answer there.

[TURBO]

Why on earth does every made up offer on these boards always includes Isan Diaz? Geez, it's maddening.

Hiura is coming quick so one of those guys is expendable.

 

Diaz is NOT a throw in player, he is one of our blue chip guys, who should bring back a heck of a lot more than we are hoping for. I don't trade him at all unless we are getting a TOR pitcher in return. Hiura is no sure thing, not even close, so having some depth at a position where we typically have none is comforting.

 

Diaz is tossed around this board like he is nothing, I don't get it.

[TURBO]

I just thank the lord that no one here is David Sterns.

[patrickgpe]

In my opinion you do not make this move unless you have a solid trade set up for Braun and Santana, and are OK with going into 2018 with an offense of Brinson, Phillps and Yelich with Bronson as your #4

[TURBO]

In my opinion you do not make this move unless you have a solid trade set up for Braun and Santana, and are OK with going into 2018 with an offense of Brinson, Phillps and Yelich with Bronson as your #4

 

Broxton, right?

[patrickgpe]

yes, sorry.

[HighHeat19]

In my opinion you do not make this move unless you have a solid trade set up for Braun and Santana, and are OK with going into 2018 with an offense of Brinson, Phillps and Yelich with Bronson as your #4

 

Braun will not be moved.

[82brewcrew82]

Why on earth does every made up offer on these boards always includes Isan Diaz? Geez, it's maddening.

Hiura is coming quick so one of those guys is expendable.

 

Diaz is NOT a throw in player, he is one of our blue chip guys, who should bring back a heck of a lot more than we are hoping for. I don't trade him at all unless we are getting a TOR pitcher in return. Hiura is no sure thing, not even close, so having some depth at a position where we typically have none is comforting.

 

Diaz is tossed around this board like he is nothing, I don't get it.

I don't consider him a throw in but you have to give up something to get something. It's going to take quite a bit more than Brinson to get Yelich.