Your Prospect Don’t Trade List

[Jenkins5]

I follow Brewer Nation on instagram and there having been a lot of trade ideas posted. Most frustrating would be Marlins trade posted since Marlins care more about teams eating contracts over big prospect hauls. I mean they were entertaining an offer from Giants who have zero to offer really for Stanton & Gordon but that’s not the point.... The names thrown around have kind of bugged me. I want to see how others rate the prospects in our system they are willing to sell. I’m excluding Hader, Phillips, & Woodruff since I think they are already pieces in place for this season I think. If I did include them, Hader Tier 1 & Phillips & Woodruff would be Tier 2 but they are no longer really prospects to me.

 

Top Tier or my Hate to trade list

1. Brinson

2. Harrison

3. Burns

4. Hiura

5. Peralta

6. Lutz

7. Feliciano

 

To me Burns & Peralta are only 2 pitchers we need to keep. I don’t think either should be included in any trade. Lutz & Feliciano are very young duo who after this year in Wisconsin should rise a lot in value. I’m probably more bullish on Lutz as he may be my favorite pick this year and player I’m most excited to follow next year. Brinson & Harrison are 5- Tool gems that don’t grow on trees. Brinson will have ups & downs this year but the ceiling is too high to sell off before ever getting a real look. Hiura is best pure bat since Braun in system.

 

2nd Tier Hate to see go but understand

1. Diaz

2. Erceg

3. Ortiz

4. Diplan

5. Grisham

 

3rd Tier Top Players I can live with

1. Ray

2. Dubon

3. Gatewood

4. Ponce

5. Bickford

6. Nottingham

And so on......

 

How does everyone else feel? Are you more willing to trade the likes of Brinson, Harrison, Peralta, Burns, Lutz than me? Peralta is a Hader right hand clone who can be elite BP arm if SP doesn’t work. Burns is a lot like Anderson & consistent. Brinson, Harrison, Lutz are MLB starters & I think All-Star type talents. Hiura same. Feliciano could be our top catching prospect since Lucroy.

[adambr2]

If we are starting with a list of 7 untouchable prospects, opposing GMs aren't going to take us very seriously in trade negotiations in July or the winter.

 

My point is, there aren't any untouchables. Just guys with higher price tags.

 

I'm willing to sell anyone if I feel the value is in my favor.

[MrTPlush]

Here is my list:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any Questions?

[CheezWizHed]

Here is my list:

 

 

 

 

+1. No one in the system is a sure fire HOF caliber player

[Jenkins5]

Even if not untouchable who are ones or tiers of ones you least want to go? For right price, anyone can be traded & untouchable. Brinson, Harrison, Hiura, Peralta to me ate center pieces. There aren’t many players I’d be willing to trade 2 out of Tier one for.

 

Archer for example I am not giving up multiple players in Tier 1 for. Lutz & Feliciano are to much of a buy low on for teams right now who stocks imo are as low as they will ever be. I have high hopes for each to rapidly rise as prospects.

 

You put right player out there, I’d be fine trading anyone. There are guys though who I think can be core players or stock is way to low to sell on now.

[NievesNoNO]

I'd agree everybody has a price, but I get what you're saying.

 

Guys I'd have to be overwhelmed for:

Brinson

Ortiz

Burnes

Peralta

Hiura

 

On the opposite end, if I'm marketing somebody to land a pitcher in a trade it's Harrison. His stock would seem to be fairly high right now and the OF at the MLB level is in good shape.

[MrTPlush]

Every prospect has a specific value(**can greatly vary amping teams though**) and there is a reason for that. In general no prospect is overrated nor is any prospect underrated. So with that being said if you offer the equivalent value or better in what I want then that person is tradable. The only player that’s should ever be near “can’t trade” territory is someone who is really really special. A guy who could turn into a Trout/Stanton/Jeter/etc. where they make such a massive difference as one guy at pre-FA prices. Even then we see quite a few of those types of guys getting traded.

 

There are a few guys I would shy away from in deals because I believe they would be harder to replace in the system:

 

Hiura

Lutz

Ortiz

Brinson

Harrison

 

I also would have a preference to trade guys who are at the end of the line with their prospect value and their MLB future potential is a little clearer. Which I think is something most MLB GMs tend to go with. You don’t see a lot of Tristan Lutz type players being traded. His surplus value is likely quite low, but the potential is exponentially higher. While his current value is correct(because so much of him is unknown) you sure would like to keep that player until you get a clearer picture.

[paul253]

Depends on who we acquire. I’d say nobody is untouchable but if we’re going to give up a Brinson or a Burnes it should be for a legitimate starting pitcher with more than two years control.

[JosephC]

I'd pretty much have to be overwhelmed to trade any of the top 15 or so prospects in the system. Rather hang on to all of them and have them available in July if the Brewers are competitive again.

[docduany]

I would really struggle to give up Burnes and Ortiz. After the years and years of the Scotty Karls of the Brewer world. I want to hang on to our young cosy controlled pitchers.

 

And if Monte Harrison is worth as much as some of us on this board feel he is worth, deal him! I love Monte. He has been my favorite prospect since he was drafted. But I'm afraid this might be a bubble about to burst. LOVE HIM, but not quite sure on the hype train.

[brewcrewdue80]

Baseball America's top 10 AFL writeup:

9. Monte Harrison, OF, Salt River (Brewers)

 

As a member of Salt River’s taxi squad, Harrison was limited to playing two games per week. He took advantage of his limited time on the field. Despite playing in just 13 games, Harrison tied for third in the league with five home runs and hit .283/.333/.604. Known more for his supreme athleticism than his baseball skills, Harrison's feel for hitting is coming along nicely and he's starting to slow the game down.

 

Harrison's plus speed allows him to handle center field, but an above-average arm that flashes plus may target him for right. He's got strong baserunning instincts, with his speed better underway than out of the box.

 

Yeah he's on a don't trade list. Add Burnes, Hader, Woodruff, and Hiura. Brinson I expect something big due to trading him and with Harrison now putting his tools together with our glut in OF, I'd accept the idea on him being traded.

 

Peralta I'm adding him now. That K rate has to scream elite RP (prospect). His height brings pause as a starter. But, thinking ahead with AA experience, I'd have to believe he's in one of the driver seats to be added to the bullpen as 2018 unfolds.

[TJseven7]

Lutz Peralta Burnes are 3 I'd hate to trade. There are more but anyone that immediately produces and steps up levels with ease fascinates me beyond their current market value. People think the world of brinson ray league wide. They're going to be valued fairly in a trade. While guys like Lutz Burnes Peralta have moved into good spots quickly they are also guys who could threaten top billing in the system fast. Rumors put lutz in discussions for our 1st pick. He's not top 100 Huira is. Maybe Lutz should be as well. I'd rather deal marquee prospects in our system at their lofty value than lesser valued high upside young prospects who might not garner the value they deserve.

 

Just a long way of saying... sell at sell high points. Let their value mature. I'd much more easily deal guys like ray, who worry me because they ARE rated very highly and aren't young at their level and aren't producing. Potential galore but they're already valued based on that potential and at some point they need to produce or they become worthless.

 

It's a dumb way of looking at it because talent matters but baseball has so many talents required to be special. Great athletic tools aren't enough. It's wrong to think but phillips showed that he acclimated a bit, and that arm plays so amazingly, that I have more faith in him being a good mlb player than brinson. Ceiling for brinson is very lofty but he also got eaten alive and has a bigger injury past. Fair value for brinson far outweighs fair value for phillips though so I'd cringe more at trading phillips than brinson.

 

2 others who I'd cringe if they were dealt is Kodi and Feliciano. I just like young players who are producing ahead of their age. (Kodi is streaky and when he's on its pretty, has nasty stuff and if that control ever comes around consistently he's capable of being a beast of a starter or a hand me multiple top 100 prospects for this knockout loogy pen arm. Lottery ticket that's just not worth trading cuz you'll get pennies and it could haunt you)

[JohnBriggs12]

Burnes, Peralta and Hiura are on my list. Anyone else including Brinson I'd be willing to deal for the right guy. Phillips showed me enough in the last month to consider Brinson available for the right price.

[paul253]

With Phillips and Harrison I think perhaps the Brewers would be wise to dangle Brinson in hopes of getting a TOR pitcher. You’d need more, at least one other top prospect and probably a pitcher at that but we have a need for elite pitching on the major league level

 

Nobody is on my no trade list but I’d hate to see Harrison, Hiura, Lutz, Burnes or Peralta traded. It has to be the right return.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Sure, there are prospects I'd hate to lose, and Brinson is probably #1 on my list. The Brewers haven't had a guy with his pedigree and tools for quite some time. He's a true 5-tool potential prospect who is on the cusp of the majors. Those types don't come around too often. Harrison is in that same type of mold, but obviously further away.

 

But any prospect is tradable, and if the team truly wants to go for it and become a playoff contender, it's going to take trading off some of their top prospects, including the glut of minor league outfielders, to get it done. That includes Phillips, Harrison, Brinson, Ray, and to a lesser degree Lutz. Yes, I love that the team has a strong farm system for the first time in years, but that depth is likely going to be used to improve the major league club sooner rather than later.

[LouisEly]

I think I had a thread on this a while back.

 

Who I'd have to be overwhelmed to trade: Woodruff, Hader, Burnes, Erceg

 

Harrison and Lutz could be special, but they are still a long way off (Harrison has not seen AA yet) and the Brewers have a ton of OF. Why Erceg? I believe LH/RH lineup balance is synergistic (i.e. sum is greater than the parts), and a LH 3B could be worth a ton (like Shaw this year). It's easier to find LH OF, but LH IF (other than 1B) and C are much harder to find.

 

Everyone else has enough question marks that they may or may not pan out. Brinson (plate discipline), Hiura (defense, shoulder, ability to stick at 2B), Ortiz (conditioning/durability), Peralta (control/walks), Phillips (swing-and-miss), Clark Grisham (hit tool/power). Erceg has plenty of question marks, but 3B is a tough position for prospects to stick at and like I said a LH 3B (with a plus arm) is not easy to find.

[OnaBadger58]

I would not trade Hader, Burnes, Peralta, M. Harrison, Erceg (lack of 3b depth), Diaz, Huira, Ray (diminished stock, big year for him), Lutz, and Yamamoto.