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Jake Arrieta

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New tweet from HH19's verified Twitter account:

 

https://twitter.com/HighHeat9Teen/status/963514097999507456

 

Cobb is more likely to be a Brewer than Arrieta......but don't rule Arrieta out, just yet.

 

I'd be OK with that. I like Cobb probably more than a lot of people here. Not a ton of milage on his arm, and getting him out of the AL East should help him put up some nicer numbers. I think he's a low-3's ERA pitcher with the type of stuff to go deeper into games.

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New tweet from HH19's verified Twitter account:

 

https://twitter.com/HighHeat9Teen/status/963514097999507456

 

Cobb is more likely to be a Brewer than Arrieta......but don't rule Arrieta out, just yet.

 

I'd be OK with that. I like Cobb probably more than a lot of people here. Not a ton of milage on his arm, and getting him out of the AL East should help him put up some nicer numbers. I think he's a low-3's ERA pitcher with the type of stuff to go deeper into games.

 

Definitely agree... I would love to add Cobb.

 

Do we trade Santana for another SP, or roll with...

 

Anderson

Cobb

Davies

Chacin

Woodruff

 

I would love to hold onto Santana and go to battle with the rotation above.

 

Also, signing Cobb would allow us to add Walker let...

 

Cain

Yelich

Braun

Shaw

Santana

Walker

Pina

Arcia

 

That's a deep lineup.

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New tweet from HH19's verified Twitter account:

 

https://twitter.com/HighHeat9Teen/status/963514097999507456

 

Cobb is more likely to be a Brewer than Arrieta......but don't rule Arrieta out, just yet.

 

I'd be OK with that. I like Cobb probably more than a lot of people here. Not a ton of milage on his arm, and getting him out of the AL East should help him put up some nicer numbers. I think he's a low-3's ERA pitcher with the type of stuff to go deeper into games.

 

 

Totally agree! I'm sick of the argument "we need to add a TOR starter to compete"

 

NO. WE. DO. NOT. Adding a Cobb would be great for us as it improves the rotation as a whole and doesn't strap our small market team with a huge contract. Fans need to understand that you don't need dominant arms in your rotation to win. Look at how long the starters actually threw in the playoffs this year...4 innings max? It was a bullpen game. The Royals won the WS with an average to below average rotation in 2015. There are many many ways to build a winning baseball team. This isn't the old days where your starters routinely threw 7/8 innings.

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I'd be OK with that. I like Cobb probably more than a lot of people here. Not a ton of milage on his arm, and getting him out of the AL East should help him put up some nicer numbers. I think he's a low-3's ERA pitcher with the type of stuff to go deeper into games.

 

 

Totally agree! I'm sick of the argument "we need to add a TOR starter to compete"

 

NO. WE. DO. NOT. Adding a Cobb would be great for us as it improves the rotation as a whole and doesn't strap our small market team with a huge contract. Fans need to understand that you don't need dominant arms in your rotation to win. Look at how long the starters actually threw in the playoffs this year...4 innings max? It was a bullpen game. The Royals won the WS with a TERRIBLE rotation in 2015. There are many many ways to build a winning baseball team. This isn't the old days where your starters routinely threw 7/8 innings.

 

You don't need a HOF staff to get to the playoffs. The Crew could add a Cobb & Cotton to the SP depth & possibly make a move at the deadline for a Fulmer to help put them over the top.

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I said a couple weeks ago that Cobb might be middle ground solution. The top two guys will be too much money. Trading for Archer is too many prospects. Getting Cobb while not without risk due to the recent TJ and his only so-so year afterwards should be half the financial risk of the top guys. Hopefully only having to give 4 years at most, maybe even get the 4th as team option with how bad the market is right now?
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Totally agree! I'm sick of the argument "we need to add a TOR starter to compete"

 

NO. WE. DO. NOT. Adding a Cobb would be great for us as it improves the rotation as a whole and doesn't strap our small market team with a huge contract. Fans need to understand that you don't need dominant arms in your rotation to win. Look at how long the starters actually threw in the playoffs this year...4 innings max? It was a bullpen game. The Royals won the WS with a TERRIBLE rotation in 2015. There are many many ways to build a winning baseball team. This isn't the old days where your starters routinely threw 7/8 innings.

 

You don't need a HOF staff to get to the playoffs. The Crew could add a Cobb & Cotton to the SP depth & possibly make a move at the deadline for a Fulmer to help put them over the top.

 

Even adding Cobb and Cotton along would be fine by me

 

Rotation:

 

Anderson

Davies

Cobb

Chacin

Woodruff/Guerra

 

Add Nelson to the mix if he can return to form and you are looking really nice with

 

Nelson

Anderson

Davies

Cobb

Chacin/Woodruff/Guerra

 

Bullpen:

Chacin/Woodruff/Guerra/Gallardo

Cotton

Suter

Albers

Logan

Jeffress

Hader

Barnes

Knebel

 

Looks pretty solid to me. No need for Arrieta.

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Even if Cobb is another Davies its a big addition. He'd be a upper teir #3. In the starters thread in the mlb forum the numbers stated anderson nelson have a chance to 1 or 2s by mlb standards. Not ace but TOR 1-2. Davies cobb chacin all project or have the stats in their history to be in the low 2 or upper 3rd teir. Woodruff is just projectable at this point but that would be a very solid group, and mke could even afford for 1 to flame out.

 

What's the hunch on cobbs value at this point? 60/4?

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Even if Cobb is another Davies its a big addition. He'd be a upper teir #3. In the starters thread in the mlb forum the numbers stated anderson nelson have a chance to 1 or 2s by mlb standards. Not ace but TOR 1-2. Davies cobb chacin all project or have the stats in their history to be in the low 2 or upper 3rd teir. Woodruff is just projectable at this point but that would be a very solid group, and mke could even afford for 1 to flame out.

 

What's the hunch on cobbs value at this point? 60/4?

 

That seems about right

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I feel some of you are trying to talk yourselves out of Arrieta to better prepare you for when he doesn’t sign with us. Simple fact is that the Brewers know what their financial abilities are better than we do and if they feel they can afford an Arrieta, then heck yah! I’d totally rather have him over Cobb. Money and years are factored into my statement. Arrieta would make our team better than Cobb.

 

Now, I do agree with you all that Cobb would be a great addition to our rotation along with a Salazar/Jake O/Archer addition. This is no doubt the better route to go financially, but I’m still holding out hope that we get Arrieta. He is the type of pitcher who could go 7-8 innings every single outting. That helps our BP.

 

Either way, I’m excited to see how this all plays out

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I'd personally prefer the Brewers sign Cobb over Arrieta, and not for money reasons as I truly want Mark A (and every owner) to spend as much as he can. I just think over the next 4 years Cobb would be a more valuable pitcher for the Crew, and I'm also a little wary of former pitchers of division rivals who get discarded. When the offseason began I was hoping that one or both of Cobb and Chatwood would be Brewers.
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Artieta has had 2 ace years. 1 year near ace and 2 TOR territory years. I don't worry about the ex cub angle but I do worry about 32-35 and what that 230 ip season did to him. He blossomed into an ace but I think he ages hard and regresses.

 

I dont see him staying healthy enough to throw 200 ip. I don't see him being a 3.0 territory guy again. I could see 180 and 3.3 to 3.6 but that's not his floor in my eyes. That's not far enough ahead of cobb to justify 10 mil extra and I'd rather run with the 30-33 years of cobb. Cobb was becoming a stud at 26 before the injury. Cost him all of 27 and most of 28. Last year looked good but I'm not sure he's was even all the way back from TJ last year. The 2nd full offseason healthy could do him wonders.

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If Cobb is a lot cheaper than Arrieta, I'd prefer to sign Cobb. But I'd stay far away from Lynn, his BB rate is a lot higher than Cobb and after the Suppan experience I don't want to sign another high-priced ex-Cards SP.

 

I'm under the impression that none of the remaining top SP's are going to take a contract less than 4/80. In that case, would you feel better about signing Arrietta at 4/100, or Cobb at 4/80? I think Arrietta is the safer bet at at $5 mil more a year

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