Milwaukee Bucks 2017 - 2018

[nate82]

Anyone else see the end of the game last night? Bucks up 3, Middleton with a FT coming, 1.9 seconds left. Cavs out of timeouts. He makes it, Bucks go up 4, game is virtually over. Kidd instructs Middleton to miss the FT on purpose (said afterwards he was scared of a 4 point play).

 

Cavs got the rebound and missed a 75 footer that would have tied it - albeit this is a huge longshot, but that would have TIED the game. ***???

 

Why not let him just try to make it. If he makes it, you can literally stand around on defense and watch. The odds of a four point play on a full court shot - well that player should be immediately cut for doing that. Granted, a 75 footer is an extreme longshot, but why even give the Cavs any sort of chance to tie??? If Middleton misses the FT, so be it, but to miss on purpose?? That's just flat out awful coaching.

 

These are NBA players, they should be smart enough to know that up 4, with 2 seconds left, to not foul to begin with.

 

Despite that, and blowing a huge lead, big, big win last night.

 

I don't see that as being a bad move its nearly impossible for them to rebound and then make a shot with 1.9 seconds left. After the rebound the player is only going to have about maybe 1 second to throw a blind shot up probably even less than 1 second to do that. The chance to tie the game that way would be about the same as the 4 point play.

[brwrsfan]

I beg to differ. If you're standing around, not playing defense because you're up 4, it's IMPOSSIBLE to lose. The odds of a 75 footer going in are slim, but it DOES happen.

 

Just make the FT and take away all the doubt. There's zero reason to miss on purpose in that spot.

[nate82]

I beg to differ. If you're standing around, not playing defense because you're up 4, it's IMPOSSIBLE to lose. The odds of a 75 footer going in are slim, but it DOES happen.

 

Just make the FT and take away all the doubt. There's zero reason to miss on purpose in that spot.

 

Yes they go in but not with 1.9 seconds left and having to rebound the ball. You would have about .5 seconds after the rebound to get a shot off assuming the rebound is clean. If it is a long rebound it is basically .1 seconds which isn't even possible to get the shot off. If the clock was at 4 seconds then yes it would be a bad idea but with 1.9 seconds remaining there is no chance for you to get the rebound and then shoot.

[homer]

I beg to differ. If you're standing around, not playing defense because you're up 4, it's IMPOSSIBLE to lose. The odds of a 75 footer going in are slim, but it DOES happen.

 

Just make the FT and take away all the doubt. There's zero reason to miss on purpose in that spot.

 

 

Well kidd tried to foul up 4 a few weeks ago so maybe he was just planning against himself.

[Baldkin]

I beg to differ. If you're standing around, not playing defense because you're up 4, it's IMPOSSIBLE to lose. The odds of a 75 footer going in are slim, but it DOES happen.

 

Just make the FT and take away all the doubt. There's zero reason to miss on purpose in that spot.

 

Yes they go in but not with 1.9 seconds left and having to rebound the ball. You would have about .5 seconds after the rebound to get a shot off assuming the rebound is clean. If it is a long rebound it is basically .1 seconds which isn't even possible to get the shot off. If the clock was at 4 seconds then yes it would be a bad idea but with 1.9 seconds remaining there is no chance for you to get the rebound and then shoot.

 

The clock doesn't start until the ball is touched on a rebound.

 

It was an incredibly stupid decision and once again proving that Jason Kidd has no strategic basketball acumen.

[brwrsfan]

While I agree that the odds of a 75 footer going in aren't good, why even give them the chance? It's not impossible that someone makes it. OR...Middleton's FT doesn't hit the rim and the Cavs get an inbounds pass and can throw it deep.

 

The fact is, if he makes it, the game is over. If he misses it, it's going to hit the rim, and then the Cavs are left with a desperation 75 footer to tie. In EITHER scenario, there's the chance of someone doing something incredibly dumb and fouling. The difference being, if you're up 4 and you foul, the miracle shot STILL has to go in for them to tie.

 

The logic behind fouling makes ZERO sense.

[hurricanecrush]

If you make the FT, everyone runs off the court and lets the Cavs inbound to the 3 point line and hit a wide open 3... game over. If an idiot like me can figure that out, how can't an NBA coach figure that out?

[superfly]

I think you guys are missing the forest for the trees. Kidd isn't the best coach, but the culture around the team from what I can tell from afar has been excellent, the growth of the players has been good, and they're making an entertaining product for the most part. I think if Jabari hadn't suffered 2 ACL's and grown with the rest of the core the discussions might be a bit different today.

 

Enjoy the season. Or R.E.L.A.X. Whatever you prefer as we sit within range of home court in the playoffs at this early juncture.

[brwrsfan]

If you make the FT, everyone runs off the court and lets the Cavs inbound to the 3 point line and hit a wide open 3... game over. If an idiot like me can figure that out, how can't an NBA coach figure that out?

 

Winner. This is what I've been trying to say for three posts now.

 

Jason Kidd may be a great motivator and his team clearly plays for him, but as an in-game coach...he leaves a LOT to be desired. Find it especially weird since he played the game for so long.

[stoutdude04]

If you make the FT, everyone runs off the court and lets the Cavs inbound to the 3 point line and hit a wide open 3... game over. If an idiot like me can figure that out, how can't an NBA coach figure that out?

 

Winner. This is what I've been trying to say for three posts now.

 

Jason Kidd may be a great motivator and his team clearly plays for him, but as an in-game coach...he leaves a LOT to be desired. Find it especially weird since he played the game for so long.

 

It seems like he is trying to make something out of nothing. Like he's trying to be the next in game genius...but it comes off as dumb.

[adambr2]

Yeah the purposely missed FT was so baffling and made zero sense up 3.

 

Make it, go up 4 and stand there and don't even guard anyone, the game is over.

 

If they were up 1 or 2 instead of 3, I'd totally agree with it.

[olliegjw]

He's afraid of a four point play, but not fouling on a rebound or desperation three? Makes zero sense.

[lcbj68c]

I don't know how you blow 18-pt leads in a single quarter in 3 straight games?

[Baldkin]

Bucks lose to the lowly Bulls for the 2nd time in 11 days.

 

Jason Kidd blames the team for not enough "Energy and Effort" for the 147th time.

[GAME05]

Kidd also says the expectations for the team are too high and that it's a young team, as he loses to the Bulls who average a year younger.

[FVBrewerFan]

Bulls have a great strategy against the Bucks, crash the boards on the offensive end. Bucks are a horrific rebounding team, surprised more teams don't do the same.

[superfly]

Bucks lose to the lowly Bulls for the 2nd time in 11 days.

 

Jason Kidd blames the team for not enough "Energy and Effort" for the 147th time.

 

Lots of teams are losing to the Bulls lately.

[adambr2]

Kidd also says the expectations for the team are too high and that it's a young team, as he loses to the Bulls who average a year younger.

 

Same Jason Kidd who predicted 50 wins this season? No other NBA team has such a gap between talent and results. Kidd needs to go.

[superfly]

Kidd also says the expectations for the team are too high and that it's a young team, as he loses to the Bulls who average a year younger.

 

Same Jason Kidd who predicted 50 wins this season? No other NBA team has such a gap between talent and results. Kidd needs to go.

 

If they lock it down every night like they did to Jimmy buckets and the wolves in the 4th quarter tonight 50 wins+ is the type of team they are.

[Baldkin]

Kidd also says the expectations for the team are too high and that it's a young team, as he loses to the Bulls who average a year younger.

 

Same Jason Kidd who predicted 50 wins this season? No other NBA team has such a gap between talent and results. Kidd needs to go.

 

If they lock it down every night like they did to Jimmy buckets and the wolves in the 4th quarter tonight 50 wins+ is the type of team they are.

 

Against the wolves on their 2nd of a B2B, who had 3 starters had all played 40+ minutes the night before and played 36+ last night? It's almost like they got tired in the 4th. I wonder why?

 

Yes, if they regularly outscore teams 27-12, they'll win a lot of games, but if they regularly go down 20 in the 3rd quarter they won't.

[OnaBadger58]

If they lock it down every night like they did to Jimmy buckets and the wolves in the 4th quarter tonight 50 wins+ is the type of team they are.

 

Against the wolves on their 2nd of a B2B, who had 3 starters had all played 40+ minutes the night before and played 36+ last night? It's almost like they got tired in the 4th. I wonder why?

 

Yes, if they regularly outscore teams 27-12, they'll win a lot of games, but if they regularly go down 20 in the 3rd quarter they won't.

 

Typical Thibodeau. On that same note, it will interesting to the playing time that Giannis receives tonight.

[superfly]

Kidd also says the expectations for the team are too high and that it's a young team, as he loses to the Bulls who average a year younger.

 

If they lock it down every night like they did to Jimmy buckets and the wolves in the 4th quarter tonight 50 wins+ is the type of team they are.

 

Against the wolves on their 2nd of a B2B, who had 3 starters had all played 40+ minutes the night before and played 36+ last night? It's almost like they got tired in the 4th. I wonder why?

 

Yes, if they regularly outscore teams 27-12, they'll win a lot of games, but if they regularly go down 20 in the 3rd quarter they won't.

 

This is such a farce but we don't have time to get into it. Most of these kids are 23-26 years old, give me a break they're tired of "running" up and down the court and banging around a bit during a regular season game before the all star break. Maybe in May in a grinding 7 game series, but now? I call BS. Giannis plays more minutes than any player in the league per game, take a peek at his splits on b2b vs other days rest.

 

The Bucks shut them down and relegated KAT to standing around the 3 point line more than usual. Give the guys some credit when they perform well. The wolves are no pushover.

[homer]

Average minutes played are way down in the NBA versus 10 years ago. Giannis' 38 MPG would have been 10th in the league 8 years ago.

[FVBrewerFan]

Kidd also says the expectations for the team are too high and that it's a young team, as he loses to the Bulls who average a year younger.

 

Same Jason Kidd who predicted 50 wins this season? No other NBA team has such a gap between talent and results. Kidd needs to go.

 

I'm not a fan of Kidd. But I don't think there's much of a gap between talent and results, if any. This team has Henson/Maker in the middle- and that's it. No power forwards at all. As a result of all that, they get killed on the boards. They have Giannis, a couple other good players (Middleton/Bledsoe) and then a bunch of role players. Brogdon is a very good role player, most are marginal players.

 

Add all that up and the talent on this team doesn't scream a record much better than .500 In fact, they would be under .500 in the West.

[Baldkin]

 

This is such a farce but we don't have time to get into it. Most of these kids are 23-26 years old, give me a break they're tired of "running" up and down the court and banging around a bit during a regular season game before the all star break. Maybe in May in a grinding 7 game series, but now? I call BS. Giannis plays more minutes than any player in the league per game, take a peek at his splits on b2b vs other days rest.

 

The Bucks shut them down and relegated KAT to standing around the 3 point line more than usual. Give the guys some credit when they perform well. The wolves are no pushover.

 

It's not a farce, it's a fact. Teams on a B2B fare WAY WORSE.

 

https://www.numberfire.com/nba/news/11922/are-nba-teams-playing-back-to-back-nights-at-a-disadvantage

 

Above .500 teams do not have as much trouble with back-to-backs as those below .500, but the difference can still be seen.

 

While they still win 60 percent of games on the second night of a back-to-back, they lose 5 percent more in these games than one coming after a night of rest.

 

Teams below .500 are worse off, losing 11 percent more in these instances. This is another example of good teams finding a way to overcome, but the difference is noticeable that even the NBA's better teams cannot help but get tripped up a bit here.

 

...teams traveling to a road destination and playing the next night are nearly 18 percent more likely to lose under these circumstances.