2017-08-26: Brewers (Davies) at Dodgers (Stripling) 8:10 PM CDT [Brewers win, 3-0]

[sdcheezhd]

Dodgers DOA and now RIP so sad.

[SomewhereInTime]

Thames is very average, borderline bad.

 

Indeed, he has been below replacement level since April.

[SomewhereInTime]

Good win, really one you should get when the Dodgers are basically punting the game away with a bullpen day. I wish this were a different era, and useful stats weren't used or available. I made a fun longshot bet on Davies to win the Cy Young when I was in Vegas before the season, $5 to win $3000. Davies is now tied for the league lead in Wins.

 

If only this was 30 years ago...

[Baldkin]

I am confident that Davies could have struck out looking, like Broxton did.

 

Are you confident Davies could hit for a .770 OPS?

[Baldkin]

Good win, really one you should get when the Dodgers are basically punting the game away with a bullpen day. I wish this were a different era, and useful stats weren't used or available. I made a fun longshot bet on Davies to win the Cy Young when I was in Vegas before the season, $5 to win $3000. Davies is now tied for the league lead in Wins.

 

If only this was 30 years ago...

 

Thirty? Try fifteen. Go look up the 2004 NL CY Young.

[3and2Fastball]

Thames is very average, borderline bad.

 

.869 OPS and 123 OPS+ disagrees with "average"

[Ennder]

 

Not really. His BABIP is .305 which is a little low but not ridiculously off his career norms, which at this point in his career are likely going to trend to the lower side. There's a reason, actually a lot of reasons there wasn't trade interest in him this year.

 

He's been hitting the ball hard at times in this stretch and popping up at others. 15-20 HR and 110-120 games definitely seems about right this year. I guess 'special hitter' depends on your definition but I don't look at him as one of the elites in MLB anymore.

 

Yes and that reason is because he was hurt, he has full no trade protection and he doesn't want to go to 90% of the teams in the league. Plenty of teams would have gladly traded for Braun if he were healthy, he is going to veto most trades though. His wRC+ was 123 in the first half and that includes a 2 week period where he was playing hurt and went like 1 for 17, that is still pretty elite. He is no longer the ultra elite player he was when he first came up, that is true, but he is one of the top 15 OF in baseball when he is healthy.

[Ennder]

Thames is very average, borderline bad.

 

You can say that but the stats really don't back it up.

 

his wRC+ per month goes 216, 105, 67, 122. 74.

 

So one super elite month, one average month, one all star level month and two bad months. It all adds up to a 118 which is close to an all star level player but since it has been so erratic I can't put my finger on exactly how good he is.

[endaround]

Thames is very average, borderline bad.

 

You can say that but the stats really don't back it up.

 

his wRC+ per month goes 216, 105, 67, 122. 74.

 

So one super elite month, one average month, one all star level month and two bad months. It all adds up to a 118 which is close to an all star level player but since it has been so erratic I can't put my finger on exactly how good he is.

 

Let's not go overboard here. A 118 wRC+ is about average for 1B. An All-star 1B will put up wRC+ in the 150 range. Votto is 162, Freeman is 161, Goldschmitt is 152.