Brewers Trade for Neil Walker

[MKEguy]

I haven't seen any guesses, my WAG... Medeiros, Stokes or a Jungmann

 

The names I've seen on twitter, for what it's worth, is Gatewood, Peralta, Nottingham.

 

It's going to be a real prospect. Not top 10 of course, but not out of the top 30. It really depends on how much cash is coming back.

 

I don't like giving any of these listed prospects up for Neil. Bleh.

 

Bruce, who will out produce Neil, was had for a 30th round pitcher with a 5 era in a ball.

[TJseven7]

I'll be furious if we give up any of those guys for 6 weeks of Neil Walker.

 

Not only would I be furious but it seems nuts like... casual mets fans looking at our farm system and putting together a wish list while acting like they are being reasonable...nuts

[Boomer5]

You guys can read the same twitter chatter I can.

 

But names like this are in the ballpark if you remember who we gave up for Webb and Swarzak and Walker is better than those guys. But again it really depends on how much cash is coming back. If it was a salary dump we'd give them some 29 year old who barely plays . Since they are giving cash, it's likely to be someone of some marginal value - assuming the amount of cash is meaningful.

[rwa12]

I'll only be furious if one of the six amounts to something. The odds are that none will. My furiousness is years away.

[adambr2]

Twitter chatter is worthless. There's no way it's Freddy Peralta or Gatewood. I wouldn't totally discount it being Nottinghamm if they don't really see him as a real prospect anymore and are on the fence about protecting him from the Rule 5, but I'd be more inclined to believe it's someone most of us have barely even heard of.

 

Not one team claimed Walker for his remaining $5M price tag. If we had there's a good chance the Mets would have let us take him for nothing as a straight salary dump. There's no way we gave up a prospect along the lines of Freddy Peralta just to save a million bucks on a 1 and a half month rental. Its not like we couldn't afford to eat the salary. The portion the Mets are picking up is just a reflection of Walker not being worth a prorated $18M.

[brewmann04]

I agree don't think we being trading any of the names being mentioned.

[pacopete4]

If Thames cools again, Walker has been at 1B a few times too. Hopefully Reds-Thames just starts to be Thames.

 

Unless Stearns is completely fed up with Villar, I just can't see them giving up on a player that's shown such promise. Especially for a guy like Sogard. He's 31 and we know what he is. Sogard can jump up on Sept. 1 and help then.

 

And as to who we give up, I just can't see it being a notable prospect. I'm sure no matter who it is, there wil be some that lose it over that said player but most of those prospects will ever see MKE anyways.

 

Cheers to adding a quality player with a professional approach and also a guy with playoff experience, just in case we somehow fall into them.

[TJseven7]

Just excited to see Walker Braun Shaw Santana Thames Pina Arcia.... and then theres Broxton

[pacopete4]

Brewers World on twitter is saying he thinks Carlos Belonis is a possible part of the return. Take that for what it's worth.

[adambr2]

Just excited to see Walker Braun Shaw Santana Thames Pina Arcia.... and then theres Broxton

 

Broxton has a .243/.349/.459/.808 line since returning. If he gave us that with solid defense consistently I'm sure we would take that.

[Yaz]

umm - another GM wannabe... What happened to Villar tonight? Where did he go?!!!!!

 

So tired of the THOUGHT POLICE on this site.

[TJseven7]

Just excited to see Walker Braun Shaw Santana Thames Pina Arcia.... and then theres Broxton

 

Broxton has a .243/.349/.459/.808 line since returning. If he gave us that with solid defense consistently I'm sure we would take that.

 

Don't disagree with this but when one analytics hub makes a big play at decreasing Ks... I doubt the other isn't looking into it. Broxton remains the least impactful bat where you can shave a bunch of Ks.

[adambr2]

You guys can read the same twitter chatter I can.

 

But names like this are in the ballpark if you remember who we gave up for Webb and Swarzak and Walker is better than those guys. But again it really depends on how much cash is coming back. If it was a salary dump we'd give them some 29 year old who barely plays . Since they are giving cash, it's likely to be someone of some marginal value - assuming the amount of cash is meaningful.

 

Swarzak isn't a very good comp to Walker. The reliever market is already a very separate entity from the position player market, but in addition to that, Walker's salary is a major hit to his surplus value, if he even has any. Swarzak had no such issue.

 

Jay Bruce, who was acquired for basically nothing, is a lot more comparable to Walker in terms of salary, contract, and value.

[Brewer Fever]

Lol at reading wild speculation of names thrown out on Twitter and thinking the Brewers are sending anyone of significance as the PTBNL. Everyone go take a look at And That's top 100 list below. I would not be surprised at all if the player is someone not even on that list...

 

http://forum.brewerfan.net/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=35581&start=63

 

And how anyone could be mad at this is beyond me. There are 2 scenarios. One, Walker adds very little, our season plays out, miss the playoffs, he finds a new home next year, and we give up a player who fades out of everyone's consciousness. The other scenario is that Walker provides a huge lift at a position the team ranks dead last in baseball and helps a team that was 2 games out of first at the time of the acquisition, and propels them into the playoffs. Then 5 years from now people are taking about what a shrewd, zero cost pickup this move was. The upside is too great to even consider a downside. There just isn't one, unless you're worried about Mark A. paying a couple million in salary for the final 2 months.

[brewcrewdue80]

I like the trade. Sogard was finished and Id expect him to be waived. Walker is a consistent bat we could use. And if it were my guess to the prospect return, Id say Clint Coulter fits the mold.

 

Villar can just be sent to the minors. Brewers are still in the Central race, and Walker most certainly improves our 2nd base.

[MrTPlush]

Jonathan Villar cannot be sent down and the Brewers would be idiotic to lose him. Eric Sogard would probably not be claimed and would just accept his assignment back to Colorado. I guess there might be a risk he gets scooped up, but how big of a loss would that really be?

[ClosetBrewerFan]

Purely speculative on my part, but I would guess the PTBNL is a guy that needs to be protected from the Rule 5 draft and is not someone we have room for (or want to protect). Someone like Coulter, T.Taylor, Wren, Betencourt, Rijo or maybe even A. Ventura. That would be more than enough value for a few months rental of Walker assuming we are still taking on a significant portion of his remaining salary. This team has so much depth that I would be furious we gave up a top 30 player. Our 30-50 are better than most teams 20-30.

[MillerParkSouth]

Taylor and Coulter are exactly the type of prospect I'd imagine are on the list.

[torts]

Solid move, huge Walker fan, hope he can stay healthy the rest of the season. He was a solid bat in Pittsburgh,it was a terrible move for them to trade him to the Mets.

[Never Outhustled]

I think Villar will get DFA'd and they'll have 10 days to work out a trade. But if they couldn't trade a reliable, controllable reasonably priced Gennett this spring, I don't think the market will be strong for Villar, especially since he's out of options. Maybe they can assign him if there are no teams out there willing to give him a 6 week trial. There's no way they were going to go into 2018 with Villar penciled in as starter at 2B. His lack of options means he moves on. That's the risk you take with trading for out of options players who aren't established.

 

Who starts at 2B next year? They'll have internal options, and some in FA.

 

They'll just option Suter. No need for a 5th starter anytime soon since the team finally has off days coming up.

[bensheeps]

They'll just option Suter. No need for a 5th starter anytime soon since the team finally has off days coming up.

 

My thought as well. Or send someone like Barnes down if they want to keep Suter as a lefty in the pen.

 

With Shaw day-to-day after being removed last night, does it make more sense to keep the extra infielder on the 25-man?

[djoctagone]

the beating travis shaw took last night will force the brewers to want to keep an extra infielder for at least the coming days, so it's a reliever designated for assignment to make room for walker. if shaw goes on the disabled list, an outfielder will be recalled to allow hernan perez to focus on playing the infield and give the brewers a backup in center field.

[brewcrewdue80]

Jonathan Villar cannot be sent down and the Brewers would be idiotic to lose him. Eric Sogard would probably not be claimed and would just accept his assignment back to Colorado. I guess there might be a risk he gets scooped up, but how big of a loss would that really be?

 

Oh, I thought he went down earlier this year when Sogard was hot. Sogard will just be waived. No reason to have 3 2b players on the roster with only one having any kind of position flexibility.

 

On another note, by getting Walker, you have the ability to see what a 1yr or 2yr deal may be before the offseason. Get an idea if you went that route to shop Villar immediately when season is over. Villar's value was his bat last year with the SBs. His mental midget errors, baserunning mistakes with this batting avg, make him useless to this team's rebuild. A year of a veteran solid as Walker is, can help keep 2b warm for the 2b prospects

[Never Outhustled]

the beating travis shaw took last night will force the brewers to want to keep an extra infielder for at least the coming days, so it's a reliever designated for assignment to make room for walker. if shaw goes on the disabled list, an outfielder will be recalled to allow hernan perez to focus on playing the infield and give the brewers a backup in center field.

 

Walker can play 3rd.

 

However, I might get aggressive and option Suter and Barnes, DFA Susac. Add Walker, recall Phillips, and purchase Rene Garcia. I think Garcia is more deserving of a 40 man spot this offseason over Susac.

[pacopete4]

Barnes isn't going anywhere.