Brewers Acquire LHP Tyler Webb for Garrett Cooper

[Lathund]

 

Webb will be in the squad for tomorrow. Blazek option to AAA, and Phillips called up.

[adambr2]

I'll let it be known if people want to personally attack me feel free. I could case less.

 

Tough to find anything to attack when you're the Clayton Kershaw of message board posters.

 

Seriously though, I'm a bit irrationally worried that Cooper is going to come to MLB and just rake, but I get the deal. Webb has the chance to at least wind up as a solid LOOGY now and going forward, which would be a nice asset to have down the stretch.

 

With Cooper behind Thames and Aguilar, a decision was going to have to be made about him before the year ends one way or another. Apparently, this was his value.

[stoutdude04]

I'll let it be known if people want to personally attack me feel free. I could case less.

 

 

Fine! The phrase is couldn't care less.

[Boomer5]

You have to give up something to get something. Cooper was a fairly high price to pay for a 27 AAA guy but the Brewers needed a LOOGY and this seems like a quality guy for a reasonable price.

 

Bullpen guys are not a dime a dozen, they are highly, some might say over, coveted.

 

Let's beat those Cubs!

[billymac]

Trying to showcase Phillips by bringing him up?

[danzig6767]

You have to give up something to get something. Cooper was a fairly high price to pay for a 27 AAA guy but the Brewers needed a LOOGY and this seems like a quality guy for a reasonable price.

 

Bullpen guys are not a dime a dozen, they are highly, some might say over, coveted.

 

Let's beat those Cubs!

The thing i like about this trade is if Webb does become a quality bullpen arm, we have him controlled a long time vs trading for some veteran on say a one or two year deal.

[Eye Black]

Scouting report on Webb:

 

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017/6/26/15865430/tyler-webb-lhp-new-york-yankees

Tyler Webb also appeared in the most recent Baseball America Prospect Handbook, he was listed as the #30 prospect in the Pirates organization (who held his rights following the Rule 5 draft).

 

Here is the Baseball America Prospect Handbook scouting report...

 

Tyler Webb, LHP

 

Webb's four years at South Carolina were filled with highlights. He was a contributor as a freshman and sophomore on the Gamecocks' back-to-back national championship teams and finished his career with a dominant senior season as closer. The Yankees selected him in the 10th round in 2013 and signed him for just $30,000. Webb carved up batters in the low minors and succeeded at Double-A Trenton and Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre as well. The Pirates selected Webb in the 2016 Rule 5 draft, and he was one of four players the Yankees lost in the draft. He will be looking to make the Pirates roster as a matchup reliever after holding Triple-A lefthanders to a sub-.600 OPS in back-to-back seasons. His fringe-average slider dives away from lefties effectively. His below-average change up gives him something to toss up against righthanders, but he's best in left-on-left matchups.

Also, an interesting albeit meaningless side note... according to Tyler Webb he had never attended a professional sporting event of any kind (i.e. MLB, NFL, etc.) when he was called up to the Yankees earlier this season. It has to be an strange feeling when the first time in your life you are present at a Major League Baseball game you are suited up for one of the teams.

[Mr Southpaw]

Ty Webb, Noonan, and Wang! What a foursome with Rodney Dangerfield, the second funniest man ever (next to Don Rickles).

[Boomer5]

You have to give up something to get something. Cooper was a fairly high price to pay for a 27 AAA guy but the Brewers needed a LOOGY and this seems like a quality guy for a reasonable price.

 

Bullpen guys are not a dime a dozen, they are highly, some might say over, coveted.

 

Let's beat those Cubs!

The thing i like about this trade is if Webb does become a quality bullpen arm, we have him controlled a long time vs trading for some veteran on say a one or two year deal.

 

Agreed. It would be tough to find flaws in this trade despite giving up a real prospect.

 

The math says if we play 500 ball the rest of the way, the Cubs have to play 580 ball. That means the division is viable. If this guy can help, he was worth Cooper.

[splitterpfj]

I think this trade is smart for both teams - I don't see why anyone would disagree.

 

I'm glad the Brewers did it.

[LouisEly]

Ty Webb, Noonan, and Wang! What a foursome with Rodney Dangerfield, the second funniest man ever (next to Don Rickles).

You will have nothing and like it!!

[homer]

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[Humans Need Water]

I'll let it be known if people want to personally attack me feel free. I could case less.

 

 

Fine! The phrase is couldn't care less.

Touché! But this expression means exactly what people think it means irrespective of what logic says. Therefore, I could care less

[JosephC]

Not surprising that Stearns is taking the initial approach of trolling the bottom of the pitching market. Will admit to being surprised that the trolling went all the way down to AAA.

 

Looking forward to seeing Webb. Looks like he was doing pretty well against righties this year. At 26 years old, he should be ready to go. I didn't see much of a reason to hold onto Cooper any longer, especially if Stearns now considers Aguilar an unmovable piece due to his bench bat and plus-insurance at first base. Cooper was blocked here and despite the good AAA numbers, I don't think his value was high enough to hold onto and hope the team could use him as a key third or fourth piece in another trade down the road.

[Humans Need Water]

I'll let it be known if people want to personally attack me feel free. I could case less.

 

Tough to find anything to attack when you're the Clayton Kershaw of message board posters.

 

Seriously though, I'm a bit irrationally worried that Cooper is going to come to MLB and just rake, but I get the deal. Webb has the chance to at least wind up as a solid LOOGY now and going forward, which would be a nice asset to have down the stretch.

 

With Cooper behind Thames and Aguilar, a decision was going to have to be made about him before the year ends one way or another. Apparently, this was his value.

I think Cooper will be a 270/330/750 type player. Plenty good to be a solid contributor to a team. And if he can hit both lines at Yankee Stadium he get some additional HR

[CheezWizHed]

Not surprising that Stearns is taking the initial approach of trolling the bottom of the pitching market. Will admit to being surprised that the trolling went all the way down to AAA.

 

Looking forward to seeing Webb. Looks like he was doing pretty well against righties this year. At 26 years old, he should be ready to go. I didn't see much of a reason to hold onto Cooper any longer, especially if Stearns now considers Aguilar an unmovable piece due to his bench bat and plus-insurance at first base. Cooper was blocked here and despite the good AAA numbers, I don't think his value was high enough to hold onto and hope the team could use him as a key third or fourth piece in another trade down the road.

 

I think DS is showing that he thinks about all phases of the system when everyone else is focused on MLB level only. Certainly Webb might impact the MLB level this year, but if not then probably soon. I like how he looks to add whenever he has a chance.

 

I think Cooper will be a 270/330/750 type player. Plenty good to be a solid contributor to a team. And if he can hit both lines at Yankee Stadium he get some additional HR

Agreed. This is almost exactly Overbay's career numbers. (266/347/429/776)

[adambr2]

Webb's splits vs. LHP the last 3 years are promising in the minors, the highest OPS against him by lefties waa .559. He should and probably will be used as a LOOGY.

[Brewer Fever]

How anyone could criticize this is beyond me. A few here sound like they'd never be capable of trading a player in the minors who is putting up numbers no matter their age. Some have even suggested we trade the similar player who is actually putting up numbers in the MAJORS. The whole point of this thing is to acquire as much talent as possible so that you can trade from depth. You can't play them all. And if you can't ever stomach parting with them via trade you start losing some of them for nothing.

 

When you have this kind of depth at a position, it's nearly like trading nothing for something. And that's exactly how you draw up a perfect scenario. Trade from excess at one spot to shore up another. Cooper had no spot on the big club and either he would have taken someone else's spot on the 40-man soon or would have been lost for nothing in the rule 5.

 

Some here seem they will never be happy with anything. This is about as easy a trade to make as it gets.

[Patrick425]

Ty Webb, Noonan, and Wang! What a foursome with Rodney Dangerfield, the second funniest man ever (next to Don Rickles).

 

Completely forgot that they also have Wang. Amazing. "Hey Wang, what's with the pictures? It's a parking lot!"

 

Edit: Btw....I know...Wang in the Brewers org. is not pronounced the same. Still..

[RobDeer 45]

Ty Webb, Noonan, and Wang! What a foursome with Rodney Dangerfield, the second funniest man ever (next to Don Rickles).

 

Completely forgot that they also have Wang. Amazing. "Hey Wang, what's with the pictures? It's a parking lot!"

 

Edit: Btw....I know...Wang in the Brewers org. is not pronounced the same. Still..

 

Busted out laughing at this. How could I not have made that connection?!?!

[brewcrewdue80]

Was going to say on the McCalvy blurp that Webb may be headed to the Majors is promising to maybe replace Torres...wound up being Blazek. Calling up Phillips, I think Broxton and Phillips are going to find a platoon down the stretch, Maybe not as much as starting but in terms of late inning PH, double move type.

 

The idea that Calvy's blurp might mean Hader was on the trade move made no sense. Hader is a huge addition to the Bullpen. His production has a lot to do with the Bullpen's solid run of late. With his latest gem a glimpse of what's to come. But what if...Hader's 3.1 outing leads to him being the 5th starter, at least for now until Woodruff returns or til the Trade Deadline, if he happens to be one that is moved?

 

I like the move considering the k/bb ratio. It's only been stated like 500 times this season walking the first batter is never a good start.

[adambr2]

Was going to say on the McCalvy blurp that Webb may be headed to the Majors is promising to maybe replace Torres...wound up being Blazek. Calling up Phillips, I think Broxton and Phillips are going to find a platoon down the stretch, Maybe not as much as starting but in terms of late inning PH, double move type.

 

The idea that Calvy's blurp might mean Hader was on the trade move made no sense. Hader is a huge addition to the Bullpen. His production has a lot to do with the Bullpen's solid run of late. With his latest gem a glimpse of what's to come. But what if...Hader's 3.1 outing leads to him being the 5th starter, at least for now until Woodruff returns or til the Trade Deadline, if he happens to be one that is moved?

 

I like the move considering the k/bb ratio. It's only been stated like 500 times this season walking the first batter is never a good start.

 

With Guerra lining up at the 5th starter the Brewers had the flexibility to make a move for an extra guy and Phillips is it. I could see Phillips getting 1-2 starts for Broxton over the next few days but I would read nothing into it beyond that. When Guerra comes up, Phillips most likely goes back down. Webb is likely here to stay.

 

I agree that there's no imminent signs that Hader is on the move, but I also don't think it makes sense that his 3.1 outing is leading into him being the #5 starter. If we keep him -- he's done well in the pen, Suter has done well in the rotation, Woodruff and Anderson aren't far behind. It doesn't make much sense to switch his roles extremely temporarily when what we're doing is working fine.

 

Even if they have any notions of trading Hader before the deadline, moving him to the rotation doesn't make much sense. He's not stretched out, and probably won't be able to go more than 5 innings. It's not like a couple 5 inning outings before the deadline is going to influence his trade value one way or another.

[reillymcshane]

Phillips also offers some depth in case Braun runs into any issues and can't play.

[Greenleaf1]

Phillips is up as the short-term replacement guy, same reason as the last time he was brought up.

 

If they intended to give him a lot of playing time, it would most likely be Brinson coming up, in my opinion. Still nice to see Phillips up for a few days though.

 

Real bummer for Blazek, who was pitching well since coming up. Definite victim of having an option remaining though, as opposed to Scahill/Torres, who are likely going to be on short leashes now that Blazek is available on the 40-man to replace them.

[pitchleague]

This guy soooooo needs to have a "nanananananana" audio clip played everytime he strikes somebody out.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFPjQhl1eYE