Brinson

[Humans Need Water]

Buxton is not a good comparable for what people want. It is very clear that the Twin really rushed him, as in only 59 plate appearances in AAA before promoting him and the year before that he only posted a combined .702 OPS across the Fall league, A+ and AA non of which had a good stat line. Brinson has been hitting in AAA since 2015. I'm sympathetic to not wanting to mess with something that is working, because any big strikeout guy is prone to look horrible for stretches. Having said that I would not be at all offended if there was a deal for a significant pitcher and we traded Broxton as part of that and brought up Brinson.

My first thoughts exactly. Buxton was rushed and was super young. Brinson will have spent what amounts to full seasons (or close to it) at each level and they're months apart age wise. Brinson hasn't been rushed along.

[Humans Need Water]

Do you honestly not believe a Top 15 prospect who's killed it at every level in the minors (typically young for level by at least 1.5yrs) that has all the tools to be an AS CF could quickly outproduce a a guy slashing 227/304/755?

 

I don't know if he could quickly outproduce Broxton or not. That's why I literally said, "I don't know."

 

Broxton not exactly setting a high bar here and I'm saying this as someone who likes him. Brinson's numbers are gaudy (in part to CS) but he's also hitting 264/365/865 on the road in AAA. He's rather consistent too, unlike Broxton.

 

Consistency isn't as big of a deal as some make it out to be. If Player A and Player B are statistically identical at the end of the year, only Player A got there consistently, while Player B had various hot and cold stretches, both have still produced the same value.

 

And the Brewers org is certain, which is why Brinson is going to be the CF of the future and not Broxton. But there could be several reasons he's not inserted right now. 1) Broxton's not exactly a bum

 

Before you said Broxton isn't exactly setting a high bar here, now you say Broxton's not exactly a bum. So what is it, should he be replaced or not?

 

2) Maybe they don't want to mess with what's working on the field given they're in 1st

3) Maybe they don't want to mess with the team chemistry/clubhouse culture having Broxton sit on the bench

 

Tell these reasons to Jett Bandy. Not buying it. They've made plenty of personnel moves and tinkered with the roster since they've been in 1st. Keon Broxton is still the starting CF'er for the Brewers because at this point and time the organization still feels that he gives them a better shot at winning games than Brinson or Phillips as the everyday guy.

 

I think you're putting way, way too much stock in an immediate impact from Brinson based on his minor league numbers and prospect status. We've been spoiled this year by Aaron Judge and Cody Bellinger, but not every high ranked rookie prospect makes that immediate of an impact that quickly. Arcia made very little positive impact the last half of 2016. Rickie Weeks was as can't miss of a prospect as we've had this century, and he produced negative WAR his first full season, and less than 1 his second. Brad Nelson was a top 25 prospect. If you want to put Brinson's first season WAR prediction over the 2.8 that Ender pointed out that Broxton has had, go ahead, but it's far less of a slam dunk than you seem to indicate.

 

Small sample, but I also didn't get the sense that Brinson's defense is MLB-ready, certainly not to the extent that Arcia's was when we promoted him.

It doesn't have to be either or. Broxton is an average starting CF. There's value in that. But he's also not lighting the world on fire. What I said makes sense and is straight forward.

 

Tell that to Bandy? You're comparing a backup catcher to a starting CF? Doesn't make sense.

 

No, I'm absolutely not putting too much stock solely due to his minor league numbers and prospect ranking. I watch a different game than you. I see things you don't see. I guarantee that. I have a different baseball background than the average person. It's why I discuss technical/mechanical aspects when it comes to hitting or pitching when discussing players (ie I didn't see anyone else mention Villar's timing mechanism adjustment the past handful of games he played, which has led to greater consistency (at least thus far) - who else discussed release point, etc when discussing AAA arms in CS environment?).

 

Judge was awful last year and he made mechanical adjustments in the off-season and changed his approach. Bellinger is a special player with a hell of a lot more power than Brinson - he's hitting 261/342 but his 25HR are amazing and they absolutely help the aforementioned numbers. Arcia came up at 21, not 23. Weeks had 2 massive changes to his swing mechanics (both right when coming up and a few years in - I believe those were the times). What has Brinson had changed? Nothing. WAR also leans more heavily on the defensive side and Brinson is MUCH better than Weeks at his premium defensive spot. You just compared Brad Nelson to Brinson - that's all I'm going to say about that.

 

And no, 2 different players that put up the same offensive numbers at season's end are not equally valuable. Broxton's 4-6wks bad stretches he's barely contributing offensively (he's been a 286 OBP, low 700 OPS player since June 1). Replace that with the "consistent" player that means they're actually contributing something over that 4-6wks. When Broxton has his 10 game amazing stretches he's producing at a very high level and no doubt outproducing the "consistent" player. But that "consistent" player is still contributing, just like before. Consistency matters. It absolutely matters. Anybody's that played or coached at any level that matters has either been preached this hard core or preaches it themselves.

 

Again, I made it clear that I like Broxton. I have no issues with them moving forward with him the rest of the season and bringing up Brinson/Phillips in Sept. But that doesn't mean Brinson can't step in and outproduce Broxton right now. This isn't a complicated subject matter.

[FVBrewerFan]

I don't know if he could quickly outproduce Broxton or not. That's why I literally said, "I don't know."

 

Most logical point in this entire thread.

 

Brinson really struggled in his limited chance earlier this year. Does that mean he would struggle if he got another chance? Does it mean he would struggle if he started from day one next year?

 

We don't know. Neither does Stearns and CC. That's the risk they will need to decide to take (or not) and I'm sure that depends on Broxton's performance and how often/ how long Braun is hurt. And, as others have said, it won't necessarily be Brinson they decide to bring up.

 

Very simply, up until now bringing Brinson up is a risk they haven't needed to take yet. That may or may not change moving forward, but let's not act like we know when the Brewers themselves don't even know.

[homer]

Brinson has an 842 OPS away from Colorado Springs. That should be part of the discussion.

 

Also, please refrain from condescending remarks. It's ok to disagree but do so respectfully.

[adambr2]

I watch a different game than you. I see things you don't see. I guarantee that. I have a different baseball background than the average person.

 

So you're basically just saying you're right about this and to trust you because you're a smarter baseball person than the rest of us.

 

I think you'll find that most posters here quite frankly, with no disrespect intended to the 'average person', are quite a bit more knowledgeable than the conventional casual fan the you'll find at the ballpark or posting on Facebook.

 

To think you're simply on a different level than all of us is incredibly arrogant and narcissistic. David Stearns and Craig Counsell themselves don't know if Brinson will come in and immediately outproduce Broxton.

[tmwiese55]

Highly touted guys flop or underperform all the time. Some guys kill it immediately. Other guys need a few months or a season to get their feet wet, like an Arcia. Brinson could be any of these, we have no idea. Chances are if you're in 1st place in a playoff race you're not risking it unless something forces your hand (injury, or Broxton hits one of those cold spells that makes them give up on him).

[hurricanecrush]

Obviously, nobody knows how Brinson will produce early on but to base it on his brief MLB callup doesn't tell us anything. I can't believe nobody brought it up (maybe I missed it) but didn't Broxton go 1 for April (slight exaggeration?) last year before being sent down and coming back up to have a solid finish?

[Roderick]

Brinson has an 842 OPS away from Colorado Springs. That should be part of the discussion.

 

The PCL without Colorado Springs, would still be considered a hitters league, right?

 

So I would think an .842 would translate in the short run to pretty close to .750 in MLB.

[Humans Need Water]

I watch a different game than you. I see things you don't see. I guarantee that. I have a different baseball background than the average person.

 

So you're basically just saying you're right about this and to trust you because you're a smarter baseball person than the rest of us.

 

I think you'll find that most posters here quite frankly, with no disrespect intended to the 'average person', are quite a bit more knowledgeable than the conventional casual fan the you'll find at the ballpark or posting on Facebook.

 

To think you're simply on a different level than all of us is incredibly arrogant and narcissistic. David Stearns and Craig Counsell themselves don't know if Brinson will come in and immediately outproduce Broxton.

Have you personally asked Stearns and Counsell if they don't know if Brinson will come in and outproduce Broxton? If not, please explain to me how my point is invalid while yours is valid?

 

Should I send a note to one of my ex-coworkers, who's best friends with Counsell, and have him ask him his thoughts on Brinson (even though Counsell won't respond in detail because that's the type of person he is in general - I know - I've had drinks with him and lunch with his wife)? Should we get a rival NL Central Manager's opinion since these guys all know and have seen the top prospects? A guy I've worked with for 8yrs who I'm close with happens to be best friends with Bryan Price (who also leaves tix for me for spring training games and when they're in town if I want them), should I have him shoot Price a text right now? My co-worker was also drafted 6th rd and won a AA championship throwing to Steinbach with McGwire and Weiss in his IF. He also happens to know an absurd amount about the game. Obviously we talk baseball.

 

I haven't had a facebook account in 2.5yrs and just because people like you believe the majority on this board are quite a bit more knowledgeable than the casual fan doesn't make it true.

 

And to answer your question. No. Me saying I have a different baseball background than the average person, which is why I see things the "average" fan doesn't, is the truth. If Kershaw said he's the best pitcher in the game and understands various aspects of pitching better than "average" pitchers as a result does that make him arrogant and a narcissist? Just applying your basic logic here...

 

There's an absurd amount of players that were better than me and even more people who know more about the game than I do (from both baseball and business sides - and I've also sat down with Schlesinger multiple times in his office and suite discussing the business side and have also sat down with Bob Quinn in the suite as well). I started learning the intricacies of the game in grade school (and through HS) at camps and such led by ex/current MLB players and coaches learning about each position on the field and, more importantly, why to do one thing vs another - one of the instructors I recall was Bill Almon, who I'll never forget because he introduced himself as "the guy who lost his starting SS job to Ozzie Smith". He turned into a utility player and was the first person I learned all IF positions from at a young age. I was recruited by Bando Jr to walk-on D2 (long-story short I ended up going there but decided not play because I was transferring back home, ended up playing a year of D3 then just focused on school because I had no professional career coming nor cared about continuing to play "just to say I played 4yrs of college"). I was an Asst Varsity HS coach at 18. Up until 25/26yrs old or so I played (and ran the team) with and against guys ranging from AAA down to just finishing their HS careers (Jason Jaramillo/Ryan Rohlinger - who both ended up in MLB eventually - and Mike Mueller who went to Auburn then drafted again). I go to spring training every year and actually talk to Brewers minor league coaches as well as scouts. We always sit behind home plate near the top and are surrounded by scouts. This past year we were directly in front of MLB scouts for the Dbacks (also Special Asst to the GM and scout of the year a few years ago) and Os (ex-MLB catcher who made 1 AS game). I spent 6 innings talking baseball with both of them - discussing their thoughts on certain players and why they think that, what they see/what they're looking at. They gave me the gun for 3-4 innings and I reported what the numbers were while we continued our conversations and while they also played with my 1.5yr old daughter. The Dbacks scout gave me his card - said I know what I'm talking about and lets get a drink when he's in town a couple times annually scouting the Brewers. The Os scout also made it known that he wasn't a fan of acquiring Gerardo Parra because he was playing out of his a$$ and is a bad clubhouse guy.

 

I don't just "watch" games. Every pitch I'm watching both the pitchers and hitters mechanics looking for potential inconsistencies, reasons why they were late/early/fouled it off/etc, discussing pitch selection every pitch with friends and why, strategies based on each situation, where players are lined up and why in conjunction with the pitches/locations being called, etc. I never just "watch" a game because I literally can't. That's not how my mind and eyes work.

 

(side note: in 2016 spring training Lucroy held my daughter for a pic and he killed it and was an AS. this year Knebel held my daughter for a pic and he's killing it and is an AS. while we stood right next to the opening of the dugout at minor league field for a AAA game talking to their coaches before the game and during the first couple innings my daughter grabbed both of Cooper's bats and started dragging them away. then she was playing with Dubon's shoes putting rocks in and out of them - they both sat there laughing. Cooper is an AS and having a career year and Dubon was already promoted to AAA. the moral of the story is you can thank my daughter for their success!!)

 

Those are my experiences. What are yours?

[CheezWizHed]

Brinson has an 842 OPS away from Colorado Springs. That should be part of the discussion.

 

Broxton had an OPS of 807 in away games at AAA last year. Not significantly different that Brinson.

 

I'm sure that Brinson will eventually outhit Broxton, but there is no guarantee that it will be this year.

 

I'm sure the Brewer brass wants to be sure what they have in Broxton before they bring up Brinson (for CF). Frankly, I wonder if Broxton might be trade bait this year.

[mrn1ceguy]

I watch a different game than you. I see things you don't see. I guarantee that. I have a different baseball background than the average person.

 

So you're basically just saying you're right about this and to trust you because you're a smarter baseball person than the rest of us.

 

I think you'll find that most posters here quite frankly, with no disrespect intended to the 'average person', are quite a bit more knowledgeable than the conventional casual fan the you'll find at the ballpark or posting on Facebook.

 

To think you're simply on a different level than all of us is incredibly arrogant and narcissistic. David Stearns and Craig Counsell themselves don't know if Brinson will come in and immediately outproduce Broxton.

Have you personally asked Stearns and Counsell if they don't know if Brinson will come in and outproduce Broxton? If not, please explain to me how my point is invalid while yours is valid?

 

Should I send a note to one of my ex-coworkers, who's best friends with Counsell, and have him ask him his thoughts on Brinson (even though Counsell won't respond in detail because that's the type of person he is in general - I know - I've had drinks with him and lunch with his wife)? Should we get a rival NL Central Manager's opinion since these guys all know and have seen the top prospects? A guy I've worked with for 8yrs who I'm close with happens to be best friends with Bryan Price (who also leaves tix for me for spring training games and when they're in town if I want them), should I have him shoot Price a text right now? My co-worker was also drafted 6th rd and won a AA championship throwing to Steinbach with McGwire and Weiss in his IF. He also happens to know an absurd amount about the game. Obviously we talk baseball.

 

I haven't had a facebook account in 2.5yrs and just because people like you believe the majority on this board are quite a bit more knowledgeable than the casual fan doesn't make it true.

 

And to answer your question. No. Me saying I have a different baseball background than the average person, which is why I see things the "average" fan doesn't, is the truth. If Kershaw said he's the best pitcher in the game and understands various aspects of pitching better than "average" pitchers as a result does that make him arrogant and a narcissist? Just applying your basic logic here...

 

There's an absurd amount of players that were better than me and even more people who know more about the game than I do (from both baseball and business sides - and I've also sat down with Schlesinger multiple times in his office and suite discussing the business side and have also sat down with Bob Quinn in the suite as well). I started learning the intricacies of the game in grade school (and through HS) at camps and such led by ex/current MLB players and coaches learning about each position on the field and, more importantly, why to do one thing vs another - one of the instructors I recall was Bill Almon, who I'll never forget because he introduced himself as "the guy who lost his starting SS job to Ozzie Smith". He turned into a utility player and was the first person I learned all IF positions from at a young age. I was recruited by Bando Jr to walk-on D2 (long-story short I ended up going there but decided not play because I was transferring back home, ended up playing a year of D3 then just focused on school because I had no professional career coming nor cared about continuing to play "just to say I played 4yrs of college"). I was an Asst Varsity HS coach at 18. Up until 25/26yrs old or so I played (and ran the team) with and against guys ranging from AAA down to just finishing their HS careers (Jason Jaramillo/Ryan Rohlinger - who both ended up in MLB eventually - and Mike Mueller who went to Auburn then drafted again). I go to spring training every year and actually talk to Brewers minor league coaches as well as scouts. We always sit behind home plate near the top and are surrounded by scouts. This past year we were directly in front of MLB scouts for the Dbacks (also Special Asst to the GM and scout of the year a few years ago) and Os (ex-MLB catcher who made 1 AS game). I spent 6 innings talking baseball with both of them - discussing their thoughts on certain players and why they think that, what they see/what they're looking at. They gave me the gun for 3-4 innings and I reported what the numbers were while we continued our conversations and while they also played with my 1.5yr old daughter. The Dbacks scout gave me his card - said I know what I'm talking about and lets get a drink when he's in town a couple times annually scouting the Brewers. The Os scout also made it known that he wasn't a fan of acquiring Gerardo Parra because he was playing out of his a$$ and is a bad clubhouse guy.

 

I don't just "watch" games. Every pitch I'm watching both the pitchers and hitters mechanics looking for potential inconsistencies, reasons why they were late/early/fouled it off/etc, discussing pitch selection every pitch with friends and why, strategies based on each situation, where players are lined up and why in conjunction with the pitches/locations being called, etc. I never just "watch" a game because I literally can't. That's not how my mind and eyes work.

 

(side note: in 2016 spring training Lucroy held my daughter for a pic and he killed it and was an AS. this year Knebel held my daughter for a pic and he's killing it and is an AS. while we stood right next to the opening of the dugout at minor league field for a AAA game talking to their coaches before the game and during the first couple innings my daughter grabbed both of Cooper's bats and started dragging them away. then she was playing with Dubon's shoes putting rocks in and out of them - they both sat there laughing. Cooper is an AS and having a career year and Dubon was already promoted to AAA. the moral of the story is you can thank my daughter for their success!!)

 

Those are my experiences. What are yours?

 

 

Seriously, was all this necessary? Your point would stand on better merit without all the name dropping and trying to prove you're better than everyone here.

[jerichoholicninja]

I watch a different game than you. I see things you don't see. I guarantee that. I have a different baseball background than the average person.

 

So you're basically just saying you're right about this and to trust you because you're a smarter baseball person than the rest of us.

 

I think you'll find that most posters here quite frankly, with no disrespect intended to the 'average person', are quite a bit more knowledgeable than the conventional casual fan the you'll find at the ballpark or posting on Facebook.

 

To think you're simply on a different level than all of us is incredibly arrogant and narcissistic. David Stearns and Craig Counsell themselves don't know if Brinson will come in and immediately outproduce Broxton.

Have you personally asked Stearns and Counsell if they don't know if Brinson will come in and outproduce Broxton? If not, please explain to me how my point is invalid while yours is valid?

 

Should I send a note to one of my ex-coworkers, who's best friends with Counsell, and have him ask him his thoughts on Brinson (even though Counsell won't respond in detail because that's the type of person he is in general - I know - I've had drinks with him and lunch with his wife)? Should we get a rival NL Central Manager's opinion since these guys all know and have seen the top prospects? A guy I've worked with for 8yrs who I'm close with happens to be best friends with Bryan Price (who also leaves tix for me for spring training games and when they're in town if I want them), should I have him shoot Price a text right now? My co-worker was also drafted 6th rd and won a AA championship throwing to Steinbach with McGwire and Weiss in his IF. He also happens to know an absurd amount about the game. Obviously we talk baseball.

 

I haven't had a facebook account in 2.5yrs and just because people like you believe the majority on this board are quite a bit more knowledgeable than the casual fan doesn't make it true.

 

And to answer your question. No. Me saying I have a different baseball background than the average person, which is why I see things the "average" fan doesn't, is the truth. If Kershaw said he's the best pitcher in the game and understands various aspects of pitching better than "average" pitchers as a result does that make him arrogant and a narcissist? Just applying your basic logic here...

 

There's an absurd amount of players that were better than me and even more people who know more about the game than I do (from both baseball and business sides - and I've also sat down with Schlesinger multiple times in his office and suite discussing the business side and have also sat down with Bob Quinn in the suite as well). I started learning the intricacies of the game in grade school (and through HS) at camps and such led by ex/current MLB players and coaches learning about each position on the field and, more importantly, why to do one thing vs another - one of the instructors I recall was Bill Almon, who I'll never forget because he introduced himself as "the guy who lost his starting SS job to Ozzie Smith". He turned into a utility player and was the first person I learned all IF positions from at a young age. I was recruited by Bando Jr to walk-on D2 (long-story short I ended up going there but decided not play because I was transferring back home, ended up playing a year of D3 then just focused on school because I had no professional career coming nor cared about continuing to play "just to say I played 4yrs of college"). I was an Asst Varsity HS coach at 18. Up until 25/26yrs old or so I played (and ran the team) with and against guys ranging from AAA down to just finishing their HS careers (Jason Jaramillo/Ryan Rohlinger - who both ended up in MLB eventually - and Mike Mueller who went to Auburn then drafted again). I go to spring training every year and actually talk to Brewers minor league coaches as well as scouts. We always sit behind home plate near the top and are surrounded by scouts. This past year we were directly in front of MLB scouts for the Dbacks (also Special Asst to the GM and scout of the year a few years ago) and Os (ex-MLB catcher who made 1 AS game). I spent 6 innings talking baseball with both of them - discussing their thoughts on certain players and why they think that, what they see/what they're looking at. They gave me the gun for 3-4 innings and I reported what the numbers were while we continued our conversations and while they also played with my 1.5yr old daughter. The Dbacks scout gave me his card - said I know what I'm talking about and lets get a drink when he's in town a couple times annually scouting the Brewers. The Os scout also made it known that he wasn't a fan of acquiring Gerardo Parra because he was playing out of his a$$ and is a bad clubhouse guy.

 

I don't just "watch" games. Every pitch I'm watching both the pitchers and hitters mechanics looking for potential inconsistencies, reasons why they were late/early/fouled it off/etc, discussing pitch selection every pitch with friends and why, strategies based on each situation, where players are lined up and why in conjunction with the pitches/locations being called, etc. I never just "watch" a game because I literally can't. That's not how my mind and eyes work.

 

(side note: in 2016 spring training Lucroy held my daughter for a pic and he killed it and was an AS. this year Knebel held my daughter for a pic and he's killing it and is an AS. while we stood right next to the opening of the dugout at minor league field for a AAA game talking to their coaches before the game and during the first couple innings my daughter grabbed both of Cooper's bats and started dragging them away. then she was playing with Dubon's shoes putting rocks in and out of them - they both sat there laughing. Cooper is an AS and having a career year and Dubon was already promoted to AAA. the moral of the story is you can thank my daughter for their success!!)

 

Those are my experiences. What are yours?

 

Good lord just go away.

[tmwiese55]

Great, you know baseball, so do all the scouts, GMs, etc. And they're wrong about players literally all the time because this is not an exact science. No one knows what will happen unless you're dealing with the absolutely elite players like Harper, etc. I'm sure all those guys are as confident as they can be that Brinson is going to be good. I'm sure they also know that he could easily struggle his first few months right well they're trying to win the division and it might not be worth the risk. I bet the GM for Cleveland in 2008 knew baseball close to as well as you do and that didn't make can't miss prospect Matt LaPorta do anything at the ML level.

[And That]

That was one of the more epic humblebrags I've read recently, though it managed to almost completely avoid the pretense of humbleness.

 

I would say this - assuming it is your goal to impart wisdom by conveying your knowledge of baseball, is the best tactic for this really to attempt to put yourself on a pedestal? The most knowledgeable people tend not to do that. Maybe that's a discussion point for the next time you play croquet with Pat Murphy.

[FVBrewerFan]

OMG that diatribe was so much worse (or better??)!!!! This post may be destined for the BF.net HOF, right up there with WHOAA SOLVVD. Not sure if I want him to stop, or embarrass himself even more. He shall now be known as the "Do you know who I am?!?!" guy.

[adambr2]

OMG that diatribe was so much worse (or better??)!!!! This post may be destined for the BF.net HOF, right up there with WHOAA SOLVVD. Not sure if I want him to stop, or embarrass himself even more. He shall now be known as the "Do you know who I am?!?!" guy.

 

I got about 2 lines into it and didn't even bother with the rest.

[dacbrewers]

LOL...If you are just looking to get roasted by very knowledgable forum members, bragging is probably one of the best ways to do it.

[brewerfan82]

That looked like it was written plugging keywords into one of those instant online essay generators. Holy cow.

[MrTPlush]

My friend is a farmer and he invited me to his farm so I could watch him farm. I guess you could call me an expert in farming now. BOW DOWN TO MY GREATNESS.

[FVBrewerFan]

Hoping this thread doesn't get locked, potential to be legendary.

 

I will not bore you with the details of my post-playing days, but a quick run-down of my playing career:

 

Little League- SS.

Babe Ruth- SS, some CF when Mike J. was sidelined due to getting his wisdom teeth extracted)

HS JV- SS and 2B. Arm starting to go, I feel my grip on SS slipping.

Varsity- Yup, Dave M. stole my SS job, but I still out-hit him. Also of note, our top pitcher was drafted and eventually played MLB. He told me Yuni B would be an All-Star.

 

No scholarship offers for a zero tool 2B, and did not get drafted. I don't know why since I hit .274 my SR year. So I played slow-pitch softball off and on from 1984, retired for good in 2003 when I was DFAd by my wife. Career highlight, one time the 1B for the other team told me "nice rip."

[Jenkins5]

Well....if Stearns doesn't work out, think we may know a guy.... As connected, knowledgeable, and advanced he is, no doubt Brewers would win a World Series ring under him quickly.

[topper09er]

My friend is a farmer and he invited me to his farm so I could watch him farm. I guess you could call me an expert in farming now. BOW DOWN TO MY GREATNESS.

 

I once saw Ted Thompson at Mickys Dairy Bar (Madison) AND I saw Gary Anderson at Monk's in Middleton once. Please direct all bows to me ahead of this peasant farmer.

 

I have a Ron Belliard autograph as well.

[bjkrautk]

 

I have a Ron Belliard autograph as well.

 

I had a Rob Deer autograph before 3TO was even a thing.

[MrTPlush]

My friend is a farmer and he invited me to his farm so I could watch him farm. I guess you could call me an expert in farming now. BOW DOWN TO MY GREATNESS.

 

I once saw Ted Thompson at Mickys Dairy Bar (Madison) AND I saw Gary Anderson at Monk's in Middleton once. Please direct all bows to me ahead of this peasant farmer.

 

I have a Ron Belliard autograph as well.

 

Unless you had dinner with his wife, no bows or knowledge was acquired.

[FVBrewerFan]

I'm not a major league scout, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 

If you've ever heard the call-in shows after a Packers game, that essay earlier would have sounded familiar.

 

Caller: "This is Jimbo from Shiocton."

Host: "Go ahead Jimbo"

Caller: "I played HS football so I know what I'm talking about......." and proceeds to tell us everything wrong with the Packers because he actually played the game.