2017 Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 6-20

[StearnsFTW]

There's an underslot college senior in round 9. Not sure how much that would save though. Not much I'm guessing.

[MrTPlush]

There's an underslot college senior in round 9. Not sure how much that would save though. Not much I'm guessing.

 

approx. $100k

 

I think they gave their 9th round senior sign last year $25k. Can write down another for the 10th round too. That is basically what all teams start doing in the second half of the first 10 rounds. If you look there was a single high schooler drafted in the 9th round(8 since the start of the 6th round). It is all guys they can get for at slot or under slot.

 

It probably isn't a big deal regardless. I doubt it takes that much extra to bring in Lutz and as mentioned the Brewers already know what they need to bring him in.

[StearnsFTW]

There's an underslot college senior in round 9. Not sure how much that would save though. Not much I'm guessing.

 

approx. $100k

 

I think they gave their 9th round senior sign last year $25k. Can write down another for the 10th round too. That is basically what all teams start doing in the second half of the first 10 rounds. If you look there was a single high schooler drafted in the 9th round(8 since the start of the 6th round). It is all guys they can get for at slot or under slot.

 

It probably isn't a big deal regardless. I doubt it takes that much extra to bring in Lutz and as mentioned the Brewers already know what they need to bring him in.

 

Yeah I noticed that too about the 9th round. Pretty standard strategy as you said.

 

Our guy could hit in college though. So that's some upside I guess. Appears as though he was pretty good defensively too.

 

Edit: And another college senior in round 10 as predicted. All but one of the first 13 picks in round 10 were.

[MrTPlush]

There's an underslot college senior in round 9. Not sure how much that would save though. Not much I'm guessing.

 

approx. $100k

 

I think they gave their 9th round senior sign last year $25k. Can write down another for the 10th round too. That is basically what all teams start doing in the second half of the first 10 rounds. If you look there was a single high schooler drafted in the 9th round(8 since the start of the 6th round). It is all guys they can get for at slot or under slot.

 

It probably isn't a big deal regardless. I doubt it takes that much extra to bring in Lutz and as mentioned the Brewers already know what they need to bring him in.

 

Yeah I noticed that too about the 9th round. Pretty standard strategy as you said.

 

Our guy could hit in college though. So that's some upside I guess. Appears as though he was pretty good defensively too.

 

Edit: And another college senior in round 10 as predicted. All but one of the first 13 picks in round 10 were.

 

Yeah senior signs aren't assured to be terrible. Usually not very high ceilings. Blake Allemand was one and he is doing pretty well at AA this year. Dustin DeMuth was also a senior sign that was a bat.

[miggs721]

He isn't a senior, but seems like an attempt to save some pool money. If not I really don't like it. His defense isn't that good and his offensive game is extremely limitted. Why draft a utility player Top 10 rounds?

 

 

Defense isnt that good? What kind of weed are you smoking, ACC defensive player of the year brah

[Sixto]

Scooter Gennett replacement?

 

Could hit for a solid average? Check. Is not going to ever take a walk? Check. Has negative value defensively? Check. Is a tiny human? Check.

 

Looks like he fills all the needed requirements to be the next Scooter. Looks like we'll be seeing a 4 home run game out of this dude in the future.

 

You can't replace a Scooter Gennett with one person. You have to re-create him in the aggregate. It would take 3 guys minimum to do that.

[colbyjack]

Alec Bettinger wasn't ranked among the PG Top 500, but here's the report on Dallas Carroll:

 

410. Dallas Carroll, 3b, Utah

R-R, 6-0/205, Taylorsville, Utah

Previously Drafted: Never Drafted

 

One of the better contact hitters in college baseball, Carrol had a very good senior season for the Utes, leading the team in hitting at .369 with an overall slash of .369/.465/.591. He collected 17 doubles and 7 home runs; but what really stands out is that Carroll only struck out 19 times in just shy of 250 plate appearances. Carrol's best tool is that pure bat to ball skill; he's capable of manipulating the barrel and while he can get bat on nearly everything; he's not over-aggressive and is willing to take his walks. As a matter of fact, his approach is rather patient; a pretty good trait to have when coupled with his bat-to-ball skills and gap pop. He's a decent defender at third base and should be fine there long term, overall. He's also commended for his makeup and leadership skills.

[MrTPlush]

He isn't a senior, but seems like an attempt to save some pool money. If not I really don't like it. His defense isn't that good and his offensive game is extremely limitted. Why draft a utility player Top 10 rounds?

 

 

Defense isnt that good? What kind of weed are you smoking, ACC defensive player of the year brah

 

Ahh you are one of those guys that likes silly awards, right? He only had two errors, but his range isn't anything to write home about. From what I have read his arm is questionable still after surgery. He can play SS, but without the range he won't be that good over there. When I say "not that good" I am not saying it sucks. Just saying it isn't good for a guy who doesn't have much of a bat. His defense isn't good enough to carry his bat. If the guy doesn't walk, has zero power, and has below average speed he depends entirely on average. He sounds like a huge long shot to be a utility player and we drafted him in the 6th round. I don't really care because I fully expect that he was drafted to sign underslot.

 

Try to be a little more mature next time though.

[DHonks]

Defense isnt that good? What kind of weed are you smoking, ACC defensive player of the year brah

 

brah? anything that "frat-ish" is hard to accept as an argument

[LouisEly]

Carroll sounds like Jeff Cirillo-type upside. Not bad.

[JosephC]

Safe to assume that Tristan Beck told teams not to draft him because he's returning to Stanford?

[clancyphile]

Carroll sounds like Jeff Cirillo-type upside. Not bad.

 

My read as well. I think he will move up fast.

 

That said, I think Francis and Rose are the sleepers so far. If both are developed as starters, it would bolster the farm big-time.

[SomewhereInTime]

I think I like Day 2 better than Day 1. For High School pitchers I like Murphey over Lemons. As stated already on here, Lemons is a massive project who needs a lot of work on his mechanics. If Hiura does avoid surgery I like the pick, I definitely like the idea of drafting the top college hitter available, but we'll see. Lutz is an ok pick. Harrison can hit, but I'm surprised the Brewers view him as a catcher.

 

Rose and Bowden are good picks, Egnatuck is a reach. Some good and some bad overall.

[Mass Haas]

Brewers select Hylton graduate Alec Bettinger in 10th round

 

During the ninth round of Major League Baseball's First-Year Player Draft Tuesday, Alec Bettinger received a call from a Milwaukee Brewers scout.

 

The scout wanted the University of Virginia senior right-hander to know that if he was still available when the Brewers' turn came in the 10th round they were going to select him. Milwaukee kept its word and took Bettinger with the 294th pick, one spot ahead of the Philadelphia Phillies, who also considered taking him.

 

Gathered at his Woodbridge home with family and friends, Bettinger shared in multiple group hugs. Bettinger was particularly grateful to celebrate with his parents, who have been his biggest supporters during his baseball career.

 

For Bettinger, the moment became real when the Brewers called him. Seeing his name pop up on MLB's livestream of the draft was confirmation.

 

Bettinger said he expects to follow up with Milwaukee over the next few days to sign a contract and then see where he will be assigned this summer. Based on where he was selected, Bettinger is slotted to receive a signing bonus of $135,100.

 

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Photo and more from that article at the link above...

[MrTPlush]

Carroll sounds like Jeff Cirillo-type upside. Not bad.

 

That is really bullish for a guy just drafted in the 9th round as a senior sign. However I know nothing about him so I won't judge your evaluation too much.

[MrTPlush]

Safe to assume that Tristan Beck told teams not to draft him because he's returning to Stanford?

 

No need to assume.

[MrTPlush]

If Hiura does avoid surgery I like the pick, I definitely like the idea of drafting the top college hitter available, but we'll see.

 

You would judge the entire pick based solely on the fact he might have tommy john? He is a positional player. If we sent him in today he should be ready to go at the start of the season or very early in the season.

[CheezWizHed]

So, round 11 coming up. Who will be this year's Chad McClanahan?

[Mass Haas]

From this article on the Utah teammates taken in the 8th and 9th rounds --

 

Rose and Carroll could end up beginning their careers in the Pioneer League. Milwaukee’s affiliate is in Helena, Montana. Although Carroll noted that the final rounds of the draft could alter where players end up, he’s happy his teammate run with Rose isn’t coming to a close just yet.

 

Professionally, the journey is just beginning.

 

“I’m very excited,” Rose said. “It’s really cool and I can’t wait to start.”

[OnTheBlack]

He isn't a senior, but seems like an attempt to save some pool money. If not I really don't like it. His defense isn't that good and his offensive game is extremely limitted. Why draft a utility player Top 10 rounds?

 

 

Defense isnt that good? What kind of weed are you smoking, ACC defensive player of the year brah

 

Ahh you are one of those guys that likes silly awards, right? He only had two errors, but his range isn't anything to write home about. From what I have read his arm is questionable still after surgery. He can play SS, but without the range he won't be that good over there. When I say "not that good" I am not saying it sucks. Just saying it isn't good for a guy who doesn't have much of a bat. His defense isn't good enough to carry his bat. If the guy doesn't walk, has zero power, and has below average speed he depends entirely on average. He sounds like a huge long shot to be a utility player and we drafted him in the 6th round. I don't really care because I fully expect that he was drafted to sign underslot.

 

Try to be a little more mature next time though.

 

Ok, so winning the award for being the best defensive player in the ACC means nothing and is "silly" but you can definitively say he's not that good defensively based on? Some general scouting reports?

[CheeseheadInQC]

I wonder if there is enough money left in the pool for a McClanahan-type pick in the 11th round.

[Mass Haas]

Cool story -- what an afternoon for them!

 

Francis brothers go in MLB Draft

[MrTPlush]

Ok, so winning the award for being the best defensive player in the ACC means nothing and is "silly" but you can definitively say he's not that good defensively based on? Some general scouting reports?

 

I don't remember saying definitively, but yah...I will trust a bunch of general scouting reports over an award, easily.

[MrTPlush]

I wonder if there is enough money left in the pool for a McClanahan-type pick in the 11th round.

 

They have money to spare, but I don't know if they will have McClanahan Money. They took a couple guys who should be little to none to sign which will add a good $300k, they get $100k towards a post 10th round guy anyway, Hiura should save $500k, and then if they really wanted to they can go $500k over their pool if they pay the 75% overage fee.

 

It depends on if Lutz will be overslot(and by how much) and if Hiura is well under slot.

 

*I did this really quick and very generalized.

 

*I am making a strong assumption Hiura was targeted to be in part a notably underslot signing. He is at least 300k under possibly even more than $500k. Outside of other teams looking to sign him as a underslot guy he didn't get much buzz inside the Top 20 where slot bonuses quickly dip to $2mil range.

[WV Brew]

Here is a home town paper article on Alec Bettinger:

 

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