Who are numbers 9-10 on this list?

[NYChez]

1. Aaron

2. Spahn

3. Mathews

4. Yount

5. Molitor

6. Braun

7. Cooper

8. Fielder

[adambr2]

9. Cirillo

10. Oglivie

 

I think Cirillo is usually pretty underrated. Guys like Gorman Thomas and especially Jim Gantner get severely overrated.

[MrTPlush]

Well it would depend on your criteria. Some dock players for short primes or overrate them looking at only a offensive stat line. You could probably make an argument to drop Fielder. Regardless I don't think it is acceptable to leave off Higuera.

 

9. Teddy Higuera

10. Jeff Cirillo

[pacopete4]

9. Auggie

10. Rock

[adambr2]

If you include Higuera you could make a pretty strong case for Ben Sheets as well. Say what you want about the guy but he was the only ace developed out of our system for many, many years.

[JosephC]

Throw #6 off the list for the PED use. Then my 8 through 10 would be Teddy Higuera, Ben Sheets and Don Money.

[pacopete4]

Get Molotor off there. Crack head!

[MrTPlush]

If you include Higuera you could make a pretty strong case for Ben Sheets as well. Say what you want about the guy but he was the only ace developed out of our system for many, many years.

 

Definitely. The only reason I opt to include Higuera is the fact he was so dang good for his three year run. He had three seasons posting a 6.5+ WAR one of which approached 10. Ben Sheet just wasn't that good and I think Brewer fans tend to overrate him just because he was the only true ace the last 30 years. It is hard to ignore the best pitcher in Brewers' history(in my opinion). I guess one could leave him out if they really dislike the short stint of excellance, but man he was good for his time.

 

Honestly I would be tempted to dump Fielder due to the defense, but the incredible offensive seasons can't be ignored. He is the best hitter to pick up a bat in a Brewers uniform behind Braun and maybe Molitor

[FVBrewerFan]

Burnitz and Jenkins have to be in the mix at least?

[JohnBriggs12]

9. Burdette (179-120 and a World Series MVP as a Milwaukee Brave, 26.2 WAR as Brave)

10 (tie). Adcock (239 HR in 10 years as a Milwaukee Brave despite missing major parts of 4 seasons in his prime. 26.6 WAR as Brave)

10 (tie) Cirillo

[gregmag]

Ooh, this is fun.

 

Adcock, Fielder, Cirillo, and Cooper is close. Burdette and Sheets is close. I think I actually knock out Fielder first from those six, as his tenure was just too short, and his defense blunted his value some. If I have to knock out one more . . . Man it's close.

 

Sheets was really good. He peaked in a hitter's era, but he compares quite favorably with Burdette. Sheets' 2004, by WAR, is the greatest pitching season any Milwaukee player ever had, including Spahn.

 

Maybe you knock out Sheets because no real postseason glory and packed so much value into one season. I probably knock out Adcock because he was never more than a 4-win 1b.

 

After the first six, I'd go

 

7. Cooper

8. Burdette

9. Higuera

10. Sheets

11. Cirillo

12. Adcock

13. Fielder

[BrewersSuperCollector]

George Scott number 9.

[3and2Fastball]

How quickly we forget! Bill Hall should be #1

[stoutdude04]

Throw #6 off the list for the PED use. Then my 8 through 10 would be Teddy Higuera, Ben Sheets and Don Money.

 

Why should Molitor be on the list then?

[MKEguy]

Yuni B #2! (In blue)

[CheezWizHed]

Yuni B #2! (In blue)

[sarcasm]No way. He has to be #3 (i.e. 1B)[/sarcasm]

 

Burnitz and Jenkins have to be in the mix at least?

Burnitz isn't close. He had a nice year or two, but he was never THAT good, nor for very long (neither good nor with the Brewers).

 

Jenkins is closer, but still wasn't that good either. He was a good player on a bad team, but really more of a league average guy that played here a long time.

 

Sheets, Higuera, Cirillo, Thomas, Ogilvie, Weeks, Money, Plesac, BJ Surhoff, Lucroy, Juan Nieves (the only team no-hitter needs some credit), Rob Deer (ok, I'm stretching that one, but he was my favorite player as a kid).

 

I think they are all in there. Sheets and Higuera had similar peaks, but Sheets lasted longer.

 

Plesac gets under rated as a RP, but he was pretty dominant both here and elsewhere.

 

BJ gets knocked because of high expectations as a 1st overall draft pick, but he had a long and good career overall. To be fair, Jenkins and BJ are probably neck-and-neck.

 

Cirillo has the highest team batting average and was strong defensively.

 

I'm surprised no one threw out Weeks and Lucroy. Lucroy was probably better overall than BJ, but didn't stay as long as a Brewer. Weeks was also tainted by being the #2 overall pick and we expected more from him. But he was still pretty good.

 

From that group, I would pick:

9 Sheets

10 Cirillo

[A Swing and A Drive]

Rob Deer should be somewhere in the Top 20. Loved that guy.

 

I'd almost argue that CC Sabathia had more of an actual impact on the franchise then Teddy Higuera did.

 

If fact, it's a little sad but I'd have to say CC deserves a spot in the all-time top 20 players in Milwaukee Baseball, and that's with pitching all of only 3 months.

 

I'd also say that Ben Sheets should be on par with Higuera as well. They have similar career stats with the Brew Crew.

 

I'll also like to point out how much being a Brewer fan sucked between the end of Higuera's prime and the start of Sheets prime. The Brewers starting rotation for about that 12-15 year stretch had nothing that even remotely resembled an "ACE" starter. And I'm not certain they were even able to trot a true #2 or #3 MLB starter out to the mound for the better part of my entire youth. (with apologies to Jeff D'Amico)

 

I feel that the Brewers are now at the stage of needing another "homegrown" ACE. Desperately.

 

Here's to hoping that J.B. Bukauskas somehow slides to the Brewers #9 overall pick on June 12th!

[Yount19]

What about Rollie Fingers and Vuke? MVP and CY Young winners...

 

I definitely think Don Money should be on the list, as well as George Scott.

 

9. Money

10. Higuera

11. Sheets

12. Scott

13. Fingers

14. Vuke

[Yount19]

Forgot Caldwell too..

[nate82]

You are all wrong it goes:

 

1. Branyan

2. Deer

3. Everyone else

[CheezWizHed]

What about Rollie Fingers and Vuke? MVP and CY Young winners...

 

Ouch, completely forgot about those two. They were a bit before my time, but certainly worth being on this list.

[FVBrewerFan]

Burnitz isn't close. He had a nice year or two, but he was never THAT good, nor for very long (neither good nor with the Brewers).

 

Jenkins is closer, but still wasn't that good either. He was a good player on a bad team, but really more of a league average guy that played here a long time.

 

I was surprised to learn Burnitz and Jenkins were #3 and #4 respectively for the Brewers in OPS. I'm not sure I would put them on the Top 10 list or not, but if production matters, they produced more than almost all the guys being mentioned. (Also surprised to see Burnitz actually played 782 games for the Brewers.)

[AKCheesehead]

I'm surprised I didn't see Del Crandall thrown out there by somebody.

[DuWayne Steurer]

It's funny that people are dismissing Burnitz, but automatically include Fielder in their list

 

Burnitz played 5 seasons and then a partial as a Brewer, and amassed 15.6 WAR.

 

Fielder played 6 full seasons and a cup of coffee in a 7th season as a Brewer and amassed 16.8 WAR.

 

As far as the value they provided the team, they were virtually identical. Fielder was below average (because of his atrocious defense) in 3 of his 6 full seasons, and yet he's accounted being one of the best Brewers of all time. I have nothing but fond memories of the big guy, but to dismiss Burnitz .... eh, I think that's a bit unfair (IMO)

[Ennder]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/

 

For what it is worth they have the top 24 players by WAR for the team. Jenkins was #11 on that list, tied with Gantner, Sheets and Scott. Really depends on how you want to rate guys.