Brewers nearing deal with Jared Hughes

[iKezims]

Per Twitter.

 

Guess that solves the riddle of the 25th man.

[proudsoftballdad]

Don't know that we improveed any with this move.

[AJOHNSON104]

Supposedly he was terrible this spring. Was making $2.8 million, so it will be interesting to see what he signs for.

[MillerParkSouth]

This isn't going to improve Cravy's mood and I can't blame him. This guy, Millone and Jungmann are relative head scratchers.

[wildcat2237]

This isn't going to improve Cravy's mood and I can't blame him. This guy, Millone and Jungmann are relative head scratchers.

 

+1. Dont get it.

[bill hAll Star]

This isn't going to improve Cravy's mood and I can't blame him. This guy, Millone and Jungmann are relative head scratchers.

 

+1. Dont get it.

 

Unfortunately, sometimes 13 innings in spring does not a career make.

 

I get that it's a weird situation where you claim to open competition and then the competition doesn't matter, but Hughes has had a solid career as a groundball pitcher. Cravy is just a guy.

 

I'm not really stoked about Hughes given that he's a bit older but I'd bet on him being more successful than Cravy.

[brewmann04]

Jungmann had a solid spring

[Ennder]

Jungmann looked awful today, was missing any bats and was getting hit around.

[DHonks]

good move. Hughes has a tremendous sinker. He and Neftali are both likely to do well, then get traded in July

[trwi7]

good move. Hughes has a tremendous sinker. He and Neftali are both likely to do well, then get traded in July

 

For basically nothing since it's only 20 innings and they're only signed through this year.

 

I don't get this at all. Why piss off one of your own players for someone as underwhelming as Hughes? Hell, we just got, then removed a Hughes clone from our 40 man roster and then had him compete for a bullpen job this year in Scahill.

[CheeseheadInQC]

I don't know that I see him having a ton of trade value given that he was cut now and doesn't have the K rate that a lot of teams would be looking for.

 

I'd have rather just gone with Cravy. While it is a small sample size, he has been successful in the big leagues as a reliever. Even in AAA last year, most of his struggles came 1) as a starter and 2) in Colorado Springs (his relief splits: 2.38 ERA, 1.176 WHIP, 8.6 K/9, 2.5 K/BB). I know the scouting reports might not be overwhelming, but at some point if a guy keeps having success, give him a shot to continue it.

[brewcrewdue80]

I'm for this move for a Bullpen guy. Extreme Ground-ball pitcher for a Defense that should be well improved in the infield. Give him the ball when you remove SPs with men on base and let him get the Starter out of Jams. Best use I would think of.

[brewmann04]

I be more upset why they kept millione

[Jenkins5]

Outside of pitching well today, Millione make zero sense to me. Suter I think would give you exact same for cheaper. Fine with Jungmann, outside of the awful 9th he had impressive spring. Hughes will do. Cravy, needs to man up. Publicly calling out your employers is childish & unprofessional. Want a 9-5? Go on social media & blast Boss for not getting a promotion you think you deserved. Fired next day. Poor guy is going to collect double my teaching salary for 6 months of pitching 30-50 innings. Plus he gets called up first to make 10 years of salary of me. Hope he has great degree & is brilliant because he's going to be taking giant pay cut to probably be crapped on by false sense of reality. Sorry that really didn't sit well. It's one thing to say you are really disappointed but you will work & prove self interest of throwing tantrum publicly. He's not good enough to pull those stunts. My personal opinion.

[WV Brew]

Hughes/Cravy

 

FIP 4.68/4.35

WHIP 1.416/1.165

H/9 9.4/6.7

HR/9 0.9/1.0

BB/9 3.3/3.8

K/9 5.2/7.0

[BrewCrewBlueDevil]

Hughes had a 2.82 ERA over 300+ innings pitched and a 60% ground ball rate. The pen is shaky at best and the back end also had poor springs. Cravy does not have good stuff and Schahill is unproven. Milone is a head scratcher but is going to get a chance at tough lefties. Hoping it works out but I am not counting on it. Sketchy, sketchy bullpen but at least they sold high on Thornburg and Will Smith.

[clancyphile]

Outside of pitching well today, Millione make zero sense to me. Suter I think would give you exact same for cheaper.

 

Suter had three options.

 

Plus, at AAA, they can stretch him out a bit to start, or he could be a long reliever, LOOGY, or closer.

[Outlander]

I think it goes back to the depth thread we have. The Brewers now have proven major leaguers on the 25 man in Hughes and Milone and capable players with options in the minors if the others falter or get injured.

[Thurston Fluff]

The only thing that bothers me about this is why tell them it's an open competition if it isn't? Maybe they did keep telling Cravy his option year is a factor and he didn't want to hear it but from what I've read and heard all spring was it was an open competition. If that is the case then managment wasn't honest about factors like options and 40 man roster spots. Nobody would have blamed them if they said other factors play into it. Hell we all know they do. Why say something about an open competition when it isn't and you don't have to? Seems like a mistake made by a fairly new manager and GM. Hope they learn from this.

[MrTPlush]

Maybe it was an open competition. Maybe he had to be be lights out all spring and other to literally implode? Comparing him to Milone is irrelevant. Milone is a lefty Cravy is not. Phil Hughes allows them to have more depth and is a ground ball pitcher for a team playing in Miller Park.

 

If Cravy thinks so highly of himself go perform at AAA(which should be pretty easy for the guy so deserving of an MLB job) and then come up in a month. Then since he is so deserving he should perform here too and never see the minors again. Problem solved.

 

As Stearns mentioned it won't be long before he finds himself back on the MLB roster this year. Step off the ledge Cravy. Never seen someone freak out over such a normal thing that happens every year to countless players.

[patrickgpe]

this is what Stearns does so nobody should be surprised. If Hughes doesn't cut it, then they will sign another reliever from somewhere. Since Cravy and Scahill had options there was no downside to add depth to the rotation knowing they can come up at a moments notice. if they were out of options the story would have been different.

[And That]

Scahill is out of options, but he's not on the 40-man either. Which is why he could be assigned to AAA.

[BuckyBrewer61]

I honestly don't know a thing about Hughes, but I'm totally on board with the move. In a vacuum I understand some of the frustration re: Milone, Cravy, etc. But this is not a vacuum, and this is not all about this roster and this year. I'm looking forward to this year and the young talent coming up, but no one is expecting us to be a playoff contender in 2017. The 24th and 25th guys on the roster this year are not going to push us over the top. But, they might accrue some value and help net something that could help us in the future when every last roster spot does actually matter for a playoff run.

 

As we've seen, relievers are very highly valued these days (too highly IMO). So take advantage - buy low on a guy, add depth, give the guy with an MLB track record a chance to show he's still got it. If it works out, great - flip them for a lottery ticket or a guy that might be a useful, young, controllable 25th man in the future. If it doesn't, oh well, nothing lost except for some hurt feelings.

[djoctagone]

jared hughes is out of minor league options, and is arbitration eligible for the 2018 season. he will qualify for major league free agency in 2019.

[LouisEly]

Outside of pitching well today, Millione make zero sense to me. Suter I think would give you exact same for cheaper. Fine with Jungmann, outside of the awful 9th he had impressive spring. Hughes will do. Cravy, needs to man up. Publicly calling out your employers is childish & unprofessional. Want a 9-5? Go on social media & blast Boss for not getting a promotion you think you deserved. Fired next day. Poor guy is going to collect double my teaching salary for 6 months of pitching 30-50 innings. Plus he gets called up first to make 10 years of salary of me. Hope he has great degree & is brilliant because he's going to be taking giant pay cut to probably be crapped on by false sense of reality. Sorry that really didn't sit well. It's one thing to say you are really disappointed but you will work & prove self interest of throwing tantrum publicly. He's not good enough to pull those stunts. My personal opinion.

The difference between major league and minor league salary is $2500/day.

 

Give Cravy a break. If you perform better than several of your colleagues and they get a promotion and not you, they probably make $5000-10,000/year more than you. That's 2-4 days of MLB salary differential.

 

If the difference between a promotion and not a promotion is $2500/day, you'd say some irrational things too. And you, as a teacher, were making a lot more than he was when he was in the minors before he had major league experience. For your careers, to this point, you might very well be ahead in salary.