Trade coming?

[FVBrewerFan]

i would trade gallo for peralta in a second, but not Guerra. i think the brewers should bet on him to see if they can't turn him into a better prospect if he has another good 1st half.

 

anyway, IF a trade is coming, wouldn't it be for a middle infielder, the best they have off the bench is perez and they have 3 guys now that can only play the corner IF positions, Gallo would be 4 then.

 

They have Dejesus and Rivera if they really wanted to add a utility IF. Like most trades over the past couple years, this trade wouldn't necessarily be made to improve the roster THIS year.

[Warning Track Power]

If 23 year old Joey Gallo is on the table for 32 year old Junior Guerra, I make the move. While I believe in Guerra being a solid pitcher, a 3.5-4.0 ERA type, I don't think you pass up on a possible 40 HR bat in Gallo especially given the dearth of 1B options the Brewers currently have on the MLB roster and in the Minors.

[JohnBriggs12]

Peralta has a 17 win full season of 3.53 ERA to his credit. What exactly does Gallo have on his resume that makes anyone think he's any better than the guys they already have? You don't deal Peralta just to deal him. You wait for more than interest from one team that drives up his price.

[FVBrewerFan]

I mean, I'm not a big fan of Gallo but what is his resume? Smacking 100 HR everywhere he's been. He hasn't proven anything at the MLB level yet in limited time, but if that's the bar then they should have never traded for Santana, Broxton, Brinson, Hader, etc.

 

To me, Gallo is interesting if his glove is above avg at 1B. then at least you have a great defensive 1B who hits HRs and strikes out a lot. But, as I've said many times, would target starting pitching in any deal moving forward.

[ZBTMP]

Peralta has a 17 win full season of 3.53 ERA to his credit. What exactly does Gallo have on his resume that makes anyone think he's any better than the guys they already have? You don't deal Peralta just to deal him. You wait for more than interest from one team that drives up his price.

Well there is certainly reasonable doubt that Gallo will ever make enough contact against the best pitchers in the world; he has done plenty to make you think he can outperform Peralta.

19 year old: 163 wRC+ in A

20 year old: 221 wRC+ in A+

20 year old: 141 wRC+ in AA

21 year old: 192 wRC+ in AA

22 year old: 135 wRC+ in AAA

That's about as impressive of a resume independent of strikeouts as a batter can have. I know KATOH has flaws, but it does account for his strikeouts and still has him at 10+ WAR over the next 6 seasons

[brewcrewdue80]

i would trade gallo for peralta in a second, but not Guerra. i think the brewers should bet on him to see if they can't turn him into a better prospect if he has another good 1st half.

 

anyway, IF a trade is coming, wouldn't it be for a middle infielder, the best they have off the bench is perez and they have 3 guys now that can only play the corner IF positions, Gallo would be 4 then.

 

They have Dejesus and Rivera if they really wanted to add a utility IF. Like most trades over the past couple years, this trade wouldn't necessarily be made to improve the roster THIS year.

 

Dejesus isnt a guarantee, they sent him to AAA. If any club offers him a spot on their 25man he can go according to his contract.

 

Texas will not be offering Gallo, unless we include a minor League guy (remember Texas scouts seen in Minor games?)

Yes Peralta had that 17win season and mid 3s ERA, but that Fip was over 4, has it has been the last 2 seasons as well. He hasn't learned a 3rd effective pitch. FB/Slider so the planes on those two pitches moving down arent much different. And when he's slightly off, Ill guess thats when he goes through those innings with 5+hits given up. Until he learns an effective 3rd pitch and commits to throwing it 20% of the time. He's going to be a 4+ Fip pitcher. Or a #4 starter with #3 upside. He needs that, or a FB that hits it's location more often than its done the last 3years.

 

Is Gallo really a known good defensive 1b? Nevermind the fact he'd be awaiting playing time behind Thames and Aguilar? Is that even worth trapping him in AAA? Erceg pushing his way quickly for 3b. Shaw at 3b/1b ability should the 1b situation not pan out. I think Shaw took over the Gallo attempts for acquire and that possibility is over in Stearns mind.

 

Hope we have an answer today. The waiting on closure to Opening Day is pulling at the feels.

[A Swing and A Drive]

I think the Brewers would have to add a decent piece to Peralta to land Gallo.

 

Probably something like this could get a trade done:

 

Brewers get:

1B/3B Joey Gallo

 

Rangers get:

RHP Wily Peralta

plus one (1) of these guys perhaps...

RHP Brandon Woodruff. RHP Jorge Lopez or RHP Taylor Jungmann

 

I don't feel any of those arms will be more than back-end starters so I wouldn't hesitate to move one personally.

[MillerParkSouth]

I wouldn't trade Woodruff straight up for Gallo, let alone as part of a package deal. I don't think Gallo is going to amount to anything at the MLB level and the Rangers clearly don't either since they have yet to really give him an honest look.

[DocLuna7]

Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again? He has proven that he is incapable of being anything other than a career minor leaguer in my eyes and to give up anything for him (except in a salary dump) seems to be a waste of time and resources. I think I am correct in remembering that Stearns basically wanted nothing to do with him in the Lucroy deal which is how we ended up with several of their top prospects besides him. I just don't understand the infatuation for a guy who I suspect will end up with less than 30 big league career home runs.

 

Also, not to be a Debbie downer but I tend to think that it has been quite a few years since Tom Haudricourt has broken too many scoops. I suspect that if anything is happening with our roster involving pitching it will amount to far less than some blockbuster deal.

[pacopete4]

Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?

 

Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.

[DocLuna7]

Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?

 

Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.

 

LOL... yep. Pretty much sums up my sentiments exactly.

[StearnsFTW]

Yeah, there's too much Joey Meyer in Gallo for my taste. I'd keep Guerra and hope for something better. Peralta? Sure.

[brewerfan82]

I think he's just a really interesting player considering the extreme views people have on him. People bring him up in part because the Rangers seem to de-value him just as much as some of the posters on this board do, so you would think that would make him actually available as a trade target. While his strikeout numbers are a concern, it's not often a player with his ceiling is available at his age.

 

If the Rangers also think a player who has 133 Major League at bats as a 21-22 year old "has proven that he is incapable of being anything other than a career minor leaguer", then I'm happy to buy low on the guy. That doesn't mean the concerns aren't warranted, but if the Rangers aren't going to give him a shot and you can get a guy for less than his potential value, why not consider it?

 

That said, I think the Rangers are still looking for "top prospect value" in return and not whatever it is they think he actually is worth to them. In the meantime they'll continue to bounce him between AAA and the majors without giving him a real opportunity. It's just a really strange/interesting scenario.

[MrTPlush]

Also, not to be a Debbie downer but I tend to think that it has been quite a few years since Tom Haudricourt has broken too many scoops. I suspect that if anything is happening with our roster involving pitching it will amount to far less than some blockbuster deal.

 

Haudricourt isn't hinting at anything big. The "big deal" talk is by individuals that find it too boring to talk about a trade involving just Peralta. Since the return would be a player(s) that aren't flashy.

[FVBrewerFan]

I think I am correct in remembering that Stearns basically wanted nothing to do with him in the Lucroy deal which is how we ended up with several of their top prospects besides him.

 

Well, Peralta is not Lucroy. Gallo would actually be a pretty fair trade for Peralta. Not that I want that to happen, or think it will. But his name at least makes sense in the context of a Peralta trade, where it never made any sense in a Lucroy trade.

 

All of this Peralta talk with the Rangers is a smoke screen anyhow, Braun is the one who will be traded. Gallo and....

[Warning Track Power]

Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?

 

Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.

I don't think this is fair. Facts are the Texas Rangers supposedly had an interest in starting pitching (Wily Peralta in particular), the Brewers have unknowns at 1B and that 32 year old pitcher Junior Guerra has been mentioned constantly in trade rumors, I think it makes sense that Gallo for Peralta or Guerra would be mentioned as a possible return. If it had been the Blue Jays, Orioles or Mariners who were looking at starting pitching, I don't think anyone would be mentioning Gallo.

 

It is because it's the Rangers specifically that Gallo is being mentioned.

[adambr2]

I agree on having no idea why we're talking about Gallo in a Peralta thread. I also think it's really unfair to say he's 'proven that he's incapable of bring anything other than a career minor leaguer', though.

[nate82]

I think the Brewers would have to add a decent piece to Peralta to land Gallo.

 

Probably something like this could get a trade done:

 

Brewers get:

1B/3B Joey Gallo

 

Rangers get:

RHP Wily Peralta

plus one (1) of these guys perhaps...

RHP Brandon Woodruff. RHP Jorge Lopez or RHP Taylor Jungmann

 

I don't feel any of those arms will be more than back-end starters so I wouldn't hesitate to move one personally.

 

Way to much for Gallo as his value has dropped far below his worth. From a couple of friends who are scouts for the Orioles and the Angels they compare Gallo to Chris Carter and at best he could be Branyan or a Rob Deer type of a player.

 

I also don't believe DS and the current management value Gallo all that much. I wouldn't be surprised if DS never even asked about Gallo when trading Lucroy or told the Rangers he was not interested in Gallo. Gallo just doesn't really fit the type of players DS and company are looking for.

 

The market for Gallo right now the Rangers would be lucky to get a #3 type pitcher in return.

[DocLuna7]

I agree on having no idea why we're talking about Gallo in a Peralta thread. I also think it's really unfair to say he's 'proven that he's incapable of bring anything other than a career minor leaguer', though.

 

When you quote me like that I can see why that seems unfair. I didn't mean it to sound that harsh but what I do mean to say is that I think that Gallo's potential ceiling isn't nearly as high as some others might. I am far from convinced that he is going to be a decent productive hitter over the long-term at the major league level.

[DocLuna7]

I think I am correct in remembering that Stearns basically wanted nothing to do with him in the Lucroy deal which is how we ended up with several of their top prospects besides him.

 

Well, Peralta is not Lucroy. Gallo would actually be a pretty fair trade for Peralta. Not that I want that to happen, or think it will. But his name at least makes sense in the context of a Peralta trade, where it never made any sense in a Lucroy trade.

 

All of this Peralta talk with the Rangers is a smoke screen anyhow, Braun is the one who will be traded. Gallo and....

 

Yeah... that makes some sense. My point though is that Stearns didn't seem to express much interest in Gallo (from what was being reported) at the time. Maybe that changes for someone like a Peralta but I still don't think he really fits the mold of a Stearns type acquisition.

[A Swing and A Drive]

Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?

 

Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.

 

Please come up with a Wily Peralta to the Rangers trade proposal that the rest of us can debate. Since you seem to be one of the only ones on the World Wide Wide with knowledge of "other" prospects, I'm sure you can come up with a plausable trade proposal in short order.

[pacopete4]

Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?

 

Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.

 

Please come up with a Wily Peralta to the Rangers trade proposal that the rest of us can debate. Since you seem to be one of the only ones on the World Wide Wide with knowledge of "other" prospects, I'm sure you can come up with a plausable trade proposal in short order.

 

 

I seem to be? Where did I ever say that? Step off the ledge their pal. It was a generalization of most fans. Most are just not in the know on prospects. It's easy to pick up and toss in Gallo because he's one of the known prospects out there. That's all the statement was saying. But please, contribute to try to call me out and look like a fool. Carry on...

[JohnBriggs12]

Just because there was one report about the Rangers scouting Peralta doesn't mean there weren't other scouts from other teams that were at his last start. In fact, there were. I saw that game from the KC feed. The entire section behind home plate was full of scouts, and they were training their radar guns on Peralta when he threw and not Ian Kennedy who of course they weren't monitoring. Peralta was impressive that day as he has been much of spring. You can't simply give him away to the first team that offers.

[superfly]

Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?

 

Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.

 

Please come up with a Wily Peralta to the Rangers trade proposal that the rest of us can debate. Since you seem to be one of the only ones on the World Wide Wide with knowledge of "other" prospects, I'm sure you can come up with a plausable trade proposal in short order.

 

Let me help you how it goes...

 

Peralta for Mendez ---> You're insane, why would they ever trade him?

Peralta for Tavares ---> We don't need anymore ***** outfielders

Peralta for Tejeda/Yrizarri ---> We have Arcia for years

 

etc etc etc. Heaven forbid somebody suggest an underachieving arm for an underachieving 1B/3B which is a black hole for us and see if we might catch lightning in a bottle with a cornerstone player.

 

Carry on

[wildcat2237]

Cravy and Scahill cut. Jungmann makes team.

 

Haudricourt confirming an outside move coming.