What's bugging you? (2017-2018)

[Bikeage77]

Valentines Day and all the expectations that come with it.

 

No expectations here. Bought my wife a 53 cent card from the dollar store, and I received nothing. Its just another day.

 

That's what I thought too. But apparently that changed between last year and this one.

[Thurston Fluff]

Just a public service message. If you are going to yell at a salesperson over the phone because they didn't tell you something was cheaper somewhere else before they sold it to you, it might behoove you not to tell them you will never use them again. If you are never going to buy anything there ever again any interest in listening to you scream at them vanishes. BTW it's not their job to find the best prices for you.

[AKCheesehead]

Workplace tail kissers and liars are getting pretty aggravating.

[Patrick425]

My wife and I were driving on I-94 between Waukesha and Milwaukee Counties today. On the way to our destination in West Allis my wife read an overhead sign (the ones that normally display drive times during the week) that read "Driving and pills kills zero in Wisconsin". I didn't see it and thought maybe she just did not read the sign correctly. On the way back to Waukesha there was the same message on the west bound side. She did read it correctly and we were both dumbfounded by it.

 

So, I Googled it when I got home and realized that "Zero in Wisconsin" is a slogan for a current Wisconsin DOT safety campaign (a goal of zero deaths on the road in Wisconsin). However, the signs we saw read as one sentence that made it sound like they were stating that taking pills and driving causes zero deaths in Wisconsin.

[GAME05]

My house doesn't have a single electrical outlet on the outside.

[nate82]

My house doesn't have a single electrical outlet on the outside.

 

How is this even possible?

[fondybrewfan]

My house was built in the 1970's and only has one outlet in the backyard. Nothing in the front.

 

This is the sole reason I don't do Christmas lights.

 

Also the original owners were to cheap to excavate the entire basement. 1/2 is normal height of around 8 feet; but the other 1/2 only has a height of about 4 feet. So because they didn't want to spend probably another $5,000 to excavate the entire basement we are now limited with storage space.

[brewcrewdue80]

My house doesn't have a single electrical outlet on the outside.

 

How is this even possible?

 

Place I'm renting in Sheboygan, no outlets outside and no spout to attach a hose, which seems to be standard for houses in Sheboygan not to have outside water. 4 of my last 5 rentals no outdoor spout.

[GAME05]

I even have a separate shed and well house, and both have a light inside.

 

I want to put my smoker and grill stuff in the front of my house, build a simple patio, and it'd be great if I could hang some lights to see at night, but nope, no outside plug.

[JimH5]

It seems like a big deal to me, but to a skilled electrician or plumber, adding an outlet or spigot outdoors really isn't that big of a project.

 

We had a whole house generator installed at our house. Electric and gas lines being sent outside...the installers handled it without any problem.

 

So, it's not something to do if you're renting, but if you own a house, you can pretty much have that stuff installed wherever you want it.

[hawing]

My wife and I were driving on I-94 between Waukesha and Milwaukee Counties today. On the way to our destination in West Allis my wife read an overhead sign (the ones that normally display drive times during the week) that read "Driving and pills kills zero in Wisconsin". I didn't see it and thought maybe she just did not read the sign correctly. On the way back to Waukesha there was the same message on the west bound side. She did read it correctly and we were both dumbfounded by it.

 

So, I Googled it when I got home and realized that "Zero in Wisconsin" is a slogan for a current Wisconsin DOT safety campaign (a goal of zero deaths on the road in Wisconsin). However, the signs we saw read as one sentence that made it sound like they were stating that taking pills and driving causes zero deaths in Wisconsin.

We saw a similar message-board sign this weekend outside Madison:

DRIVING ON PILLS KILLS

ZERO IN WISCONSIN

 

Having the Zero in Wisconsin part on a different line kept us from interpreting the message the way the Patrick425s did. But the SO and I both were thinking "driving on pills? Like the street surface is covered with pills and it's a struggle to keep the car under control while driving on that surface?"

[Patrick425]

I have been told by TWC/Spectrum (or whatever it's called now) that they are no longer participating in free previews for sports channels. Which means no free week of MLB extra innings to begin the season.

[TURBO]

2 things.

 

#1 - I hate the fact that the local radio station I listen to on my way to work in the mornings feels the need to allow smoke shop, vaping stores, or glorified head shops to advertise. They actually advertise detox kits to allow you to pass job drug tests. This is publically allowed to advertise? Just really bothers me that I have to listen to the glorification of pot/weed or whatever the hip term is for it now-a-days. It feels like our society has become so liberal that we no longer adhere to any type of moral standards. No wonder our kids are so messed up these days, there just isn't any right or wrong...

 

#2. Listening to my local radio station this morning, I had to listen to a couple guys, one a weatherman, the other the DJ talk about the Brewers. They acted like they knew what they were talking about, and after saying the season is already over, and that they suck, admitted that they could only name 4 players on the current team. Then when trying to list 4 players, they came up with only three. It was horrible to listen to, they have no business commenting. I wanted to punch them, twice!

[FVBrewerFan]

2 things.

 

#1 - I hate the fact that the local radio station I listen to on my way to work in the mornings feels the need to allow smoke shop, vaping stores, or glorified head shops to advertise. They actually advertise detox kits to allow you to pass job drug tests. This is publically allowed to advertise? Just really bothers me that I have to listen to the glorification of pot/weed or whatever the hip term is for it now-a-days. It feels like our society has become so liberal that we no longer adhere to any type of moral standards. No wonder our kids are so messed up these days, there just isn't any right or wrong...

 

 

#1 That's why you should exclusively listen to Bob & Brian in the morning.

 

#2 Trying not to get political, but I agree with you. I can tell you for a fact "kids" see pot as the same thing as having a beer. It's not. Especially with how strong this stuff is now. But society makes it sound like not only is it ok, it's actually good for you. Nevermind the short and long term effects on the brain, with even casual use by young adults.

 

Even worse, since state by state they're making it legal these kids are shocked that they can get turned down for a job, or fired for positive THC drug test. Or get fines. I know a "kid" who got a citation at 18 yrs old, now that's on his record forever.

 

I have no problem with medicinal pot. Although that's been way over-prescribed. But to make it legal, or otherwise perfectly acceptable is a big mistake.

[tmwiese55]

The loonies who try to act like weed is good for you are full of it. That said, I firmly believe it's less bad than alcohol and cigarettes. And not nearly the big deal it's been made out to be for 50 years and we shouldn't be spending hundreds of millions trying to outlaw it when we could be making hundreds of millions taxing it.

 

Two hypocrisies going on in the argument. From the left: weed is great and should be legal but they try to ban soda, corn syrup, etc. From the right: weed should be banned and is evil, but alcohol is ok and viewed as a cornerstone of society.

[Baldkin]

Alcohol is MUCH, MUCH worse than marijuana.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/23/marijuana-may-be-even-safer-than-previously-thought-researchers-say/?utm_term=.812b5122b4ce

 

In other words, individuals and organizations up in arms over marijuana legalization could have a greater effect on the health and well-being of this country by shifting their attention to alcohol and cigarettes. It takes extraordinary chutzpah to rail against the dangers of marijuana use by day and then go home to unwind with a glass of far more lethal stuff in the evening.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/13/heres-how-legal-pot-changed-colorado-and-washington/

 

In both Colorado and Washington, state surveys have shown no significant change in marijuana use among teens since voters passed legalization measures.

 

The fact that alcohol and cigarettes are legal and marijuana is not.... the only reason for that is lobbyists and "That's the way it's always been."

[Bikeage77]

That said, I firmly believe it's less bad than alcohol and cigarettes. And not nearly the big deal it's been made out to be for 50 years and we shouldn't be spending hundreds of millions trying to outlaw it when we could be making hundreds of millions taxing it.

 

THIS. I don't smoke, I have no intention to if/when Wisconsin legalizes it, but what Tmwiesse55 said, and the sooner the better.

[tmwiese55]

I even had it argued to me the other day that we can't legalize weed because then people will be high all the time. As in, people working at a factory, nurses, truck drivers, whoever, will just be high all day long. First, it ignores that basically anyone who wants to smoke weed is already doing it, they're not waiting for it to be legal. Second, it implies that potheads can't use it recreationally at night or off hours like people do with alcohol. You know, in spite of marijuana not being addictive while alcohol is addictive. He then tried to claim that alcohol is not addictive because he drinks and isn't an addict, but he thinks marijuana is addictive. You know, contrary to all scientific study. Basically, right wing radio talking points are more trusted than science. I tried to avoid the argument and just said it's a big leap to believe/worry that people will constantly be high causing public safety problems if you don't have the same fear about alcohol.

 

Keep in mind this discussion was in the parking lot on opening day. Around 25K vehicles that were going to be operated by people after drinking alcohol.

[FVBrewerFan]

Except that marijuana can be addictive. But I agree the theory you're talking about is stupid. Using pot, alcohol, or anything else that severely impairs driving is a problem, and whether something is legal or not won't have much of an effect on how many people do that.

 

Also, it's simply not true that regular pot use does no harm. It's a hallucinogen for crying out loud, of course it effects the brain. And for young people under roughly 24, who's brain is still developing, even short term use can have long term effects. More studies are being done on this, but I believe eventually it will be clear having a few beers a week is nothing compared to stoking up every week. Or every day.

[rwa12]

Marijuana is in no way physically addictive. I have seen arguments for psychological addiction, but I'm not sure I agree with them either. There is no withdrawal from weed. There is no craving, there is no need, there is no anything. It's a recreational activity, no better or worse than drinking. Excessive use will result in similar problems that excessive use of anything does.

 

I think studies will conclude what people want them to conclude. If you are anti, it will be easy to find studies that back up your argument, same for the pro side.

 

Calling weed a hallucinogen is a bit of a stretch for me, maybe with some incredibly expensive strains, but certainly not for the run of the mill crap. No more of a hallucinogen than alcohol. Worrying about brain damage from young people smoking a joint? I would rather any of my kids smoke a joint than get drunk. The risks for negative outcomes are universally less. You can't overdose on weed (in a traditional sense), please don't bother with Reefer Madness counter arguments.

 

A few beers a week or a joint here and there won't hurt you. They are both relatively harmless recreational drugs.

[FVBrewerFan]

Some dangerous miss-information there. Yes, it can be physically addictive. Yes, there can be withdrawal. Yes, there can be craving. Yes, it is a hallucinogen. Alcohol is not, it is a depressant. All of that is proven science. Lots of opinions on this subject, but lets not mix opinions with facts. A joint here and there is pretty broad, but again, studies prove regular use for youth and young adults can have long term effects. WILL??? No. Can? Yes.

 

As you may have guessed by now, yes, I have some first-hand experience with this. (Well, 2nd hand.) My sister works in this field for years, and she tells me stories of how pot has become a real problem. In context, no, it's not killing people like heroin. But I completely dismiss that pot is no big deal.

[tmwiese55]

I don't think anyone here is claiming it's good. We're saying it's not worth the hundreds of millions we're wasting on trying to stop it. Especially since it's clearly not working, anyone of us could probably get weed in under one hour. We're flushing that money down the drain.

 

And I do believe you're wrong when it comes to basic weed and physical addiction. Maybe what you're getting at these synthetics lined with chemical stuff. But again, we know 100% that alcohol is. Also, weed has been commonly smoked for like 70 years now, there's plenty of research and info on it at this point.

[MrTPlush]

Arguing about weed is almost as wasteful as spending all the money to stop it. If people want to ruin their lives with weed let them. It is fairly safe and will only effect themselves(generally speaking). Kind of like cigarettes, but not as bad. Why don't we make money off of these people instead?

[LouisEly]

One big difference between alcohol and marijuana - there is no such thing as second-hand alcoholism. You can't get drunk or buzzed being near someone who is drinking. It's pretty hard to smell it unless you are right next to the person who is drinking. Children aren't going to have alcohol in their system because one of their parents is drinking (unless it is their mother while pregnant).

 

I can't tell you how many times I've been walking down the street and smell it from a car that drove by, or gotten on a bus and smelled it, or smelled it from someone walking by. It is much more intrusive to people who aren't using it than alcohol, and there are lots of people who don't want to smell it, much less ingest it, because they are around someone else who is using it.

 

And that bothers me.

 

Let's stick to "what bothers you about it", and save the legalization debate for the Political forum where there is extensive discussion around it.

[pacopete4]

It bothers me that the legalization has not occurred in all 50 states and that quality people have spent time behind bars because of it.