College Basketball 2016-2017

[davego]

Minnesota gets a five seed and Wisconsin beat them twice? What a joke.

[MrTPlush]

Kansas to final 4.

 

They have some potential match-up concerns in their bracket and obviously Iowa State could be really problematic. ISU barely lost to KU at home and beat them when they played at KU. Probably someone they don't want to play.

 

On the bright side Kansas gets home games in the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 if they can make it there.

 

For what it is worth I think Gonzaga got the easiest region and great match-ups for them.

[Daubs]

Minnesota gets a five seed and Wisconsin beat them twice? What a joke.

 

Northwestern is an 8-seed - and Bucky just killed them by 28 yesterday......

[DHonks]

Wisconsin could have problems with Va Tech. Buzz had a good record against Bo Ryan in their years.

[brewcrewdue80]

Looking at MU vs. SC. SC's last big win was Jan 18 vs Florida. 2nd best win Nov 23rd vs Michigan. Another, how is WI seeded behind this team?

 

For WI Virginia Tech has played Tourney teams in 8 of last 12 games including Virginia, Louisville, Florida St. Wake Forest, and Miami. Beaten Duke/Michigan. Man such a tough seeding WI got. Very much Hosed with the matchups being tough. Maryland with Xavier or Northwestern with Vandy a 19-15 at large. Way to reward them.

 

Kansas to final 4.

 

They have some potential match-up concerns in their bracket and obviously Iowa State could be really problematic. ISU barely lost to KU at home and beat them when they played at KU. Probably someone they don't want to play.

 

On the bright side Kansas gets home games in the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 if they can make it there.

 

For what it is worth I think Gonzaga got the easiest region and great match-ups for them.

 

FWIW, you are right. Purdue/Nevada/Vermont are not really deserving of their seeds, Vermont doesn't even have 1 top 100 RPI win! Nevada's best win is Colorado St at 65 RPI. So I'm expecting a KU vs ISU sweet 16. But that just explains what I mean to the Midwest Region being a cakewalk. I'd expect Oregon vs KU in elite 8. I just think they are best by a lot in this Region. Gotta say, mean to put Iowa St. in same region as Kansas 1 of 2 losses to tournament teams and you'd have to face them in Sweet 16. Could have easily flip flopped ISU with UVA at 5 seeds to avoid such.

[DuWayne Steurer]

lol...... Wisconsin slid late, and deserved to drop, but how is NW an 8, if Wisconsin is an 8? How is Minnesota a FIVE if Wisconsin is an EIGHT?

[folly412]

The NCAA 1-68 list put UW at #29...not sure how you put 28 teams ahead of them. Every mock bracket I saw had them as a #6 with some upside after righting the ship and getting a few wins. Some very weird seeding of the Big Ten teams.

 

Marquette (and really the entire Big East) seeded about where everyone was expected, a couple spots away from the play-in games. Quite the gift for SC to play so close to home as a 7 seed, but don't think either is getting by Duke in that pod.

[MrTPlush]

Wisconsin deserved an 8 seed so no reason complaining about that. The commitee has proven unless you are a bubble team the conference tourney is pretty meaningless. Wisconsin was shakey all season and horrid down the stretch. One could complain about the generous seeding of Minnesota though.

[brewcrewdue80]

lol...... Wisconsin slid late, and deserved to drop, but how is NW an 8, if Wisconsin is an 8? How is Minnesota a FIVE if Wisconsin is an EIGHT?

 

How is Maryland a 6 if WI and Northwestern are 8s? Or Mich a 7? I nominate Maryland's seeding the worst overseed. 4-6 in last 10 games and given an at large higher than Mich/WI/NW after losing to WI/NW both down the stretch.

 

Maybe it's because I'm looking at their bracketology and they happen to be 2-2 vs top 25 RPI and 5-4 vs top 50....Even though there's only Minnesota listed at 21 their 1 top 25 win. Awarded them a top 25 win that isn't there! haha.

[MrTPlush]

I am not really surprised there are some question marks in the bracket every year. It is probably due to the heavy emphasis on putting teams in specific locations and getting certain match-ups to happen.

[superfly]

Honestly I think UW has a decent first weekend opportunity. VA Tech is certainly beatable (please pound Buzz!), and Butler pretty much gave Nova the business twice by slowing the game down. They also had some pretty iffy games...by no means are they infallible. If we play good ball we'll be in the sweet 16 IMO.

[pacopete4]

The Badgers slide is fine to point out but it doesn't justify teams like Maryland, Minnesota and Michigan being higher seeds and Northwestrn having the same. It's a complete crock of poo-poo. If the Big10 is so bad, why are those teams ranked higher yet the Badgers finished with better records and placing in tourney. Also beat them head to head. It's absolute silliness.

[owbc]

I like having the shot at Nova in the second round, assuming they get by Buzz. If they are going to go out in the first weekend, maybe they will give us an entertaining game against a #1.

[DHonks]

While the Big East got seeded as expected, it's sort of interesting that the conference got punished for being so good and so balanced. Teams 3-7 were bunched very tightly, and two were affected by injuries. The teams beat each other up during conference play, so there was no standout 3rd team. I definitely feel they deserved better than a 6, 9, 10, 11, etc, although I don't know who that third team should be. I thought Creighton was a bit overseeded given their play after losing Watson.

 

With Wisconsin it's tough. They've played 2, maybe 3 good games in their last 7-9 efforts. I know the committee doesn't look at recent success all that much, but we knew last month (when hot) Wisconsin wasn't among their top 16 seeds. Given their slide, it's no wonder they got an 8. Still, they should probably be a 6 or 7.

[fondybrewfan]

I really don't have a huge problem with the UW seeding. I thought they were a 7 so dropping to an 8 isn't crazy. Now how Minnesota is a 5 no one will ever know. The funny thing is that they aren't even favored in their first round game. That says something right there.

 

VA Tech will be tough and of course so would Villanova. Not saying they will advance to Sweet 16 but they are capable. Villanova isn't unbeatable by any stretch of the imagination. UW would have to play very well though.

[rwa12]

Cynical me says that Minnesota is a 5 so that they tourney can try and guarantee one of their 5-12 upsets this year. The formula is there, overseeded major conference team against an underseeded mid major. I don't actually have a problem with the matchup, but I think it should be a 7-10 game rather than a 5-12. Wisconsin played the last half of the season like garbage. I don't have a problem with the seed. If I were 'Nova, I would want no part of them in the second round. I think Wisconsin is more dangerous if they feel "disrespected". They've gone on runs before in the tourney, I won't be surprised with any result for them. A loss in round 1 would be as expected as the Sweet 16. Will depend if BK gets hot.

[DuWayne Steurer]

I think the consensus (or near consensus) is that people feel like the Badgers were somewhere in the 6-9 range, and that's fine, but to seed Minnesota, Maryland, Michigan all higher than them, and NW and Michigan St!!! essentially the same is where the problem lies.

[FVBrewerFan]

I think the consensus (or near consensus) is that people feel like the Badgers were somewhere in the 6-9 range, and that's fine, but to seed Minnesota, Maryland, Michigan all higher than them, and NW and Michigan St!!! essentially the same is where the problem lies.

 

Exactly. UW may very well be worthy of an 8 seed, but then all the other Big 10 teams should fall in line accordingly. Heck, even Purdue was really only slightly better than Wisc and they get a 4?

 

You're 2nd in regular season, and 2nd in the Tourney yet almost seeded as 7th best team in the conf? Yea that makes sense.

[pacopete4]

If they do happen to win two games, all we will hear is it is because they are a battle tested group, blah blah blah. There will be no admittance of incompetence by the way they were seeded. Wisconsin, one of the best programs for two decades was disrespected heavily yesterday. Other successful programs like them would never receive such BS.

[DHonks]

I really don't have a huge problem with the UW seeding. I thought they were a 7 so dropping to an 8 isn't crazy. Now how Minnesota is a 5 no one will ever know. The funny thing is that they aren't even favored in their first round game. That says something right there.

 

I looked back at my Vegas log from last March, and there were 6 or 7 games with higher seeds as dogs. That's the most I've seen in my 8 years in Vegas for opening weekend. This year I'm showing Minnesota favored by 1, while Wichita St is favored by 6.5 and Vanderbilt -1.5. So two lower seeds currently favored, although it's quite possible that Marquette, Middle Tennessee, Xavier, Seton Hall, Oklahoma St, Rhode Island, and Michigan St could flip depending on how the initial money comes in.

 

Wichita St is severely under seeded. I know I've mentioned it before, but they remind me of that '95 or '96 College of Charleston squad that was #16 in the country, but given a 12-seed before making a Sweet 16 run. Given the Shockers' defense, depth, and 3-point shooting, they could make a fairly deep run this year

[homer]

Minnesota at a 5 seed is a joke.

[nate82]

I looked back at my Vegas log from last March, and there were 6 or 7 games with higher seeds as dogs. That's the most I've seen in my 8 years in Vegas for opening weekend. This year I'm showing Minnesota favored by 1, while Wichita St is favored by 6.5 and Vanderbilt -1.5. So two lower seeds currently favored, although it's quite possible that Marquette, Middle Tennessee, Xavier, Seton Hall, Oklahoma St, Rhode Island, and Michigan St could flip depending on how the initial money comes in.

 

Wichita St is severely under seeded. I know I've mentioned it before, but they remind me of that '95 or '96 College of Charleston squad that was #16 in the country, but given a 12-seed before making a Sweet 16 run. Given the Shockers' defense, depth, and 3-point shooting, they could make a fairly deep run this year

 

I agree Wichita St is severely under seeded but it seems like they always do this every year with at least one team being severely under seeded. This doesn't really hurt the team that is under seeded but it does hurt a #4 or #5 seed and to a lesser extent the #1 and #2 seeds. Wichita St is a better team than Dayton and it is not even close.

 

The Kentucky Wichita St game really should be a sweet 16 game and not a 2nd round game. Wichita St should have gotten a 5 seed over Minnesota who did not deserve a 5 seed. I would swap Wichita St and Minnesota and I would be more happy with this years bracket.

[LouisEly]

The Badgers have made the Final Four as an 8 seed before.

 

Time to do it again.

[patrickgpe]

Minnesota at a 5 seed is a joke.

i think Middle Tennessee State beating Minnesota and Wichita State over Dayton are the 2 easiest upsets in the 1st round

[brewcrewdue80]

Minnesota at a 5 seed is a joke.

i think Middle Tennessee State beating Minnesota and Wichita State over Dayton are the 2 easiest upsets in the 1st round

 

Ill follow that with Xavier over Maryland and Marquette over South Carolina.

virginia and creighton.

 

And you know somehow a Baylor/Oregon/UCLA/Cinncinnati/ or West Virginia will experience an upset though I believe all of them are going to win 1st round.

my bracket buster would be UCLA so no doubt of them all it winds up being them