College Basketball 2016-2017

[brwrsfan]

Epic meltdown by the Badgers tonight. Not sure if it's going on in the locker room or it's a coaching issue but this team has mailed it on. Something happened a month ago and they can't get over it.

 

If they were playing well this game wouldn't be a big deal but the way they're playing this seems like a death blow. Up 5 with 1:30. Can't inbound it twice, give up 4 points. Miss an open three. Get a stop. Miss two ft. Give up an offensive board and an open three. Then Bronson misses a bad (though open shot to tie - either shoot a three Or drive). Terrible terrible loss to what should be an inferior team. Scored only 57 against the B10 worst defensive team...went 5-14 from the FT line, just gave it away. This team is hard to watch it it seems like they'll play the next three games and the season will be over.

[DHonks]

wow, this is a crazy end for Bucky. I have a little money with a friend in Vegas for wagering, and asked him to roll winnings from earlier games tonight on both Iowa +12 and mlb +650. Unfortunately he couldn't get the wager in. I fully expected to lose. I may not like the Badgers, but they really need to figure this out. They always show up and represent in March, and this is now 5 of 6 they've lost, and they really should have lost the previous 2. If they lose to Minnesota and go 1-1 in the Big Ten tournament, they'll have lost 7 of 9 (fortunate it's not 9 of 11). Maybe some of you naysayers were right, and they might be a 7 or so seed. Their fall is like Xavier, only Xavier's is linked with injuries

[brewcrewdue80]

Well, if they win vs. Creighton you are a lock because the committee will not dump the 3rank in the conference while awarding 2 or 3 other bids to it. I think they are lock in at this point because quite frankly the team is too dangerous to just leave out. So at minimum, a play-in game just so their shooting show gets put on display for a game. But, beat Creighton, win a game in the conference tourney(better yet 2) and I wonder would the committee make them an 8/9 matchup and force a potential very tough out for a #1 seed.

 

Watching the game yesterday 12 shots in a row. Yet they had just a 13pt? lead for that production. They play small and sloppy. No wonder Fischer had fouled out in the 3previous games. Being undersize means teams bullying in the paint. It was 9-0 Offensive Rebounds for Xavier til late in the 2nd half. Ticky-tac fouls pretty awful heads up.

They are just going to be so interesting to see, because again, faults of many teams, FT shooting, or 3pt shooting are not something Marquette is worrying about. You get to 1 and 1 FT shots late in a 2nd half and Marq is 6-6 and that opponent is 1-4 can turn a game quickly and now you need to foul Marq and they are shooting 90%.

 

Oh, btw reading boxscore. WI lost again. FT missing, Layup missing by Hayes again seems pretty typical of late. omg, 5-14 FTs in the game. 0 pts in final 3mins. I wouldn't be mad at the committee if they didn't put WI in the tourney. Losers of 5 of 6 and could be 7 of 8 come Selection Sunday w/o any significant win-Minnesota and Maryland are best wins.

 

I mean, this is obviously not a team to sit and think they'll win 6 in a row heading in to the tourney. As winning 2 in a row has escaped them in the past month. Let's see the committee reward WI by just giving WI a 7seed and face vs Marq as a 10. That way 1 of these two are gone round 1.

[pacopete4]

The Badgers team reflects the senior leadership of Hayes. Nonchalant players are infectious and it has killed this Badger team. Can't wait until he graduates and I can forget he ever was a Badger.

[FVBrewerFan]

Could it be that Hayes and Koenig both found out recently their stock isn't very high for the upcoming NBA draft? These guys were a big part of a very successful program the past 4 years, and may have had inflated opinions of themselves.

 

Also, they are both very politically active. I think it's at least possible they are distracted by a whole lot of things, and then you realize..."What am I going to do with my life in a couple more months?" Just really guessing here, but if you add it all up, it is possible.

[pacopete4]

I think Koenig is more hurt than is being told. I think Hayes has an ego the size of Alaska. His leadership ability on this team has shown throughout this season. He's soft and plays like it when it matters. Cannot wait for him to graduate. Can't say that enough.

[brewcrewdue80]

Interesting, MU vs. Creighton and FoxWI playing the Xavier game right now at halftime listed Creighton/MU 3/6 matchup in Big East. I think with a win MU takes the 3, if Creighton falls to 6 facing Creighton twice and winning? Current Bracketology has Creighton at 7seed. They are a top 30RPI team currently, I'd assume drop to 40 with 2 MU losses but that moves MU in to top 50. Wondering, could MU get a higher seed than WI?

[MrTPlush]

Interesting, MU vs. Creighton and FoxWI playing the Xavier game right now at halftime listed Creighton/MU 3/6 matchup in Big East. I think with a win MU takes the 3, if Creighton falls to 6 facing Creighton twice and winning? Current Bracketology has Creighton at 7seed. They are a top 30RPI team currently, I'd assume drop to 40 with 2 MU losses but that moves MU in to top 50. Wondering, could MU get a higher seed than WI?

 

Possibly, but MU would have to do something in their conference tourney and Wisconsin would have to lose to Minnesota plus lose possibly the first conference tourney game on top of that. Wisconsin should be happy if they don't end up on the 8/9 line and have a chance to win a game. If they stay a 6 seed team maybe one could dream of a Sweet 16 run.

[DHonks]

I'm starting to wonder hat as well. The committee has made it known they value top-50 wins, and Marquette is strong there. Given their surge and Wisconsin's slide, it's possible Marquette gets a better seed. I see wisc losing tomorrow, and not sure who they would face in the B10 tourney. From what I read, Marquette plus Seton Hall next week.

[pacopete4]

Nice win tonight for the seniors but it does only cover up the horrendous free throw shooting for another night. That is going to end our season sooner, rather than later. #2 seed in the tourney and hopefully get another crack at Iowa on Friday night. Owe them one.

[brewcrewdue80]

Hayes is still missing front ends of 1 and 1s, I want to say 3 of them in this game. Minnesota apparently didn't know how to foul him the moment he touched the ball in last 5mins. Suddenly Koenig hits 3 straight 3s and the game is out of reach with 2:30 to go.

 

Well, they've sealed a 6seed with being #2 in the conference. I like how the Bracketology has improved WI's matchups while losing 5 of 6. Even had them in Milwaukee the time before vs. Tenn St.? I believe. I'm wrong but it was bad conference. Now it's Middle Tennessee in Orlando. Think this will put WI maybe in that 5 seed vs 12 matchup since they are a weak higher seed. Who's cinderalla going to be on that 12 seed?

[nate82]

It looks like Marquette is definitely in the tournament and will be a 10 seed with an outside chance of an 8th seed.

 

Now the Badgers I still believe are an 8th seed but it looks like they will get at least a 6th seed maybe a 5th.

[DHonks]

Good win for Bucky yesterday...much needed. With conference tourneys left, there's a lot to play for? Marquette with a very difficult matchup vs Seton Hall. Who does Bucky have?

 

What are the thoughts on Wichita St? I see them a 5, maybe 6. Some have them in the 8-9 game

[Patrick425]

My alma mater, UWM, with a record of 11-23 playing for a spot in the NCAA tourney tonight. Crazy stuff.

[FVBrewerFan]

My alma mater, UWM, with a record of 11-23 playing for a spot in the NCAA tourney tonight. Crazy stuff.

 

Showing why low level conferences like this shouldn't have conf tourneys. You would think they would want to send their best team to the tourney to represent the conference. I mean good for UWM if they can pull this off, but ultimate example of why these tourneys are a bad idea.

[Baldkin]

Good win for Bucky yesterday...much needed. With conference tourneys left, there's a lot to play for? Marquette with a very difficult matchup vs Seton Hall. Who does Bucky have?

 

What are the thoughts on Wichita St? I see them a 5, maybe 6. Some have them in the 8-9 game

 

Top 4 seeds have a double-bye in the Big10 Tournament. Badgers play at ~5:30 on Friday, vs the winner of Indiana v Iowa (10/7 game)

[Patrick425]

My alma mater, UWM, with a record of 11-23 playing for a spot in the NCAA tourney tonight. Crazy stuff.

 

Showing why low level conferences like this shouldn't have conf tourneys. You would think they would want to send their best team to the tourney to represent the conference. I mean good for UWM if they can pull this off, but ultimate example of why these tourneys are a bad idea.

 

 

Well...shouldn't the best teams in the conference easily beat a team like UWM? If a team like UWM can win 4 games in a row to get to the tourney, maybe they deserve it. Maybe they are the "hot" team in the conference.

[pacopete4]

My alma mater, UWM, with a record of 11-23 playing for a spot in the NCAA tourney tonight. Crazy stuff.

 

Showing why low level conferences like this shouldn't have conf tourneys. You would think they would want to send their best team to the tourney to represent the conference. I mean good for UWM if they can pull this off, but ultimate example of why these tourneys are a bad idea.

 

 

[brewcrewdue80]

Well in defense of UWM the game was vs. a 15-17 record team. The previous game they took at #2 seed Valpo at 24-7 record. Also that day Oakland the #1 seed lost it's game to Youngstown St. 9/10seeds taking out 1/2 seeds. Milwaukee has to get by the #4 seed tonight. 1-1 vs each other both home team wins.

 

Valpo was the highest RPI team at #79, Northern Kentucky is 2nd at 94. Oakland was 121. Milw sits at 265.

 

So it's not like the conference is losing a team that would have made it as an at-large. If Milw pulls off the win, they'd have beaten the highest 2 in the conference, and obviously deserving reward to play in the tourney. Though most likely just the Play-in game for a 16 seed.

[FVBrewerFan]

I have no dog in the fight. Good for UWM if they can do it, they would get in legitimately by the rules as they apply. But I would say there's juuuuust a bit of difference between #79 and #265? If UWM gets in, they and the conf will be a laughing stock. And I don't think that's in the best interest of the Horizon League, but if they think so, then so be it.

 

Guess what I'm saying is I'm not questioning whether UWM "deserves" to be in the Big Dance. Mute point, because if they win tonight they will be. I just don't think conference tourneys are a good idea for these 1 bid conferences.

[MrTPlush]

Does it honestly matter in all reality? If the top teams in their conference are losing to UWM they are going to be a #16 seed and if lucky be within 20 points on the scoreboard after playing a #1 seed. Who ever makes it is about to lose in a play-in game or get steamrolled by a #1 seed. I doubt the conference really cares all that much who they send when they all suck as bad as they do.

[Outlander]

The Horizon League won't be a laughing stock because nobody cares about it. If UWM makes it then it is just one of those stories that makes the tournament interesting.

[young guns]

If milwaukee makes it, i dont see how that would make them a laughing stock. The league maybe. Though whatever embarrassment they might feel would probably be offset by the extra press and probably some increased viewership. Milwaukees run is exactly what people like about march madness. Not to mention the money these tournys have to generate for the league and the exposure since it might be the only games most people watch of their conferences all year.

[rwa12]

There's a team like UWM every year in the tourney. Plenty of precedent.

[Patrick425]

There's a team like UWM every year in the tourney. Plenty of precedent.

 

 

Kinda....I think they said last night during the game that there has never been a team with as many losses as UWM has that has made the tourney.