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If he hits, he'll be in our outfield. It's actually that simple.

 

Those were your exact words. I get your shtick has been to argue with people for sport, unfortunately your words are there for all to see.

 

 

Oh man. That's comical stuff right there. If he does hit, why would he ever get bumped? If he comes in this season and smashes the ball around the park do you really think he's all of a sudden going to take a back seat to someone just because you think they are a better prospect? He's 23. He'll get his opportunity to stick out there. What he does with it is the next thing. Again, you're spinning your wheels here because you happen to like Broxton and Brinson better. That's fine, but your dismissing Santana and that's just not smart.

"This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
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If he hits, he'll be in our outfield. It's actually that simple.

 

Those were your exact words. I get your shtick has been to argue with people for sport, unfortunately your words are there for all to see.

 

 

Oh man. That's comical stuff right there. If he does hit, why would he ever get bumped? If he comes in this season and smashes the ball around the park do you really think he's all of a sudden going to take a back seat to someone just because you think they are a better prospect? He's 23. He'll get his opportunity to stick out there. What he does with it is the next thing. Again, you're spinning your wheels here because you happen to like Broxton and Brinson better. That's fine, but your dismissing Santana and that's just not smart.

 

Now THIS is some spin. Good grief.

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If he hits, he'll be in our outfield. It's actually that simple.

 

Those were your exact words. I get your shtick has been to argue with people for sport, unfortunately your words are there for all to see.

 

 

Oh man. That's comical stuff right there. If he does hit, why would he ever get bumped? If he comes in this season and smashes the ball around the park do you really think he's all of a sudden going to take a back seat to someone just because you think they are a better prospect? He's 23. He'll get his opportunity to stick out there. What he does with it is the next thing. Again, you're spinning your wheels here because you happen to like Broxton and Brinson better. That's fine, but your dismissing Santana and that's just not smart.

 

Now THIS is some spin. Good grief.

 

Exactly how so? He's stated that Santana must be moved to 1B. He's stated that he must be traded before 2018. He's stated that Santana can't be in out OF long term.

 

All of this points to dismissing a 23 year old outfielder in Santana for guys that haven't themselves proven a thing. Santana might be the odd man out but his play on the field will determine that, not just liking other players more personally.

"This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
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It's all good, we can all read. Everyone can see for themselves what has been said. This has run it's course, but for the record I like Santana. And it's not a matter if I want Broxton and Brinson over him, it's that the Brewers do. They want athletic, versatile, superior defensive players. Which is why, again, Santana has a future here if he can play 1B.

 

In case there's any doubt, we had another corner OF who hit plenty, under team control for years, and was bad defensively. He was traded. If you can't come up with the name, ask Briggs ; )

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It's all good, we can all read. Everyone can see for themselves what has been said. This has run it's course, but for the record I like Santana. And it's not a matter if I want Broxton and Brinson over him, it's that the Brewers do. They want athletic, versatile, superior defensive players. Which is why, again, Santana has a future here if he can play 1B.

 

In case there's any doubt, we had another corner OF who hit plenty, under team control for years, and was bad defensively. He was traded. If you can't come up with the name, ask Briggs ; )

 

 

Khris Davis was 27, not 23. Better comparison than the previous though. The funny part in all of this is I can see a day where Santana becomes expendable because we have players who may push him out. But to say this about a 23 year old power hitter that's shown patience at the plate and a very good arm in the corner OF as if it is a certain thing.. I doubt the Brewers are saying what you are.

 

Oh and you're dismissing first base as if it is a position you can lack athleticism and be good at it.

"This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
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Not dismissing that at all. That's why I said he better learn 1B or be traded. I have no idea if he could ever become even an avg 1B. Santana would have been a godsend for much of Brewers past out fields. A young, controllable guy with a pretty high floor, and room in his ceiling. He just happens to be here at a time when something has to give relatively soon. It's not that I don't like him, in fact it's why I hope he can play 1B.
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Or you know Santana played 77games last season total as a result with injuries? Should someone recovering from injury in a 65win team who won 73 sell out his body dive for catches, ran hard in to fences? How was Aaron Rodgers Running ability down at the end of 2016? And thats from a guy in the midsts of putting a 6game win streak to win the division and male the playoffs.

Let him play a healthy season and learn to his defensive ability. Then give a distinguish to his defensive ability.

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I still think there's a lot of room for improvement in Santana's defense, and he seems to have a great arm. As someone said there are a ton of moving pieces and it's possible that any one of those currently in the OF, and possibly any of the prospects, minus Brinson, could be traded in the next year. It's fun to speculate on what the OF might look like in 2018 or 2019, but that's what it is - speculation. And IMHO Santana staying in RF could most def be one of those scenarios.
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Right. All of that is a given. You said if Santana hits, he stays. But if Braun is still here and Broxton and Brinson are better, now what?

 

Haha, well of course then those two play. Was that ever debated? You dismissed Santana and I called you on it. The rest of this is you spinning your wheels.

 

Why must you "call him on it?" Why can't you just discuss it?

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Right. All of that is a given. You said if Santana hits, he stays. But if Braun is still here and Broxton and Brinson are better, now what?

 

Haha, well of course then those two play. Was that ever debated? You dismissed Santana and I called you on it. The rest of this is you spinning your wheels.

 

Why must you "call him on it?" Why can't you just discuss it?

 

 

Why must you make this post?

 

It was discussing. We discussed several possibilities. Move on.

"This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
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Here's my thoughts on the matter:

 

1) Santana could improve his defense. He's still young enough and to my knowledge he wasn't seen as a defensive liability going into last year. So we'll have to see if he can improve enough to be at least average there. He was pretty bad last year.

 

2) If he doesn't, how much tolerance the regime would have for it would I'm sure depend on how the development of the others comes along. Stearns seems to place a higher premium on defense than Melvin, and I don't think an .800 or so OPS is going to cut it if he's as bad as a defensive liability as last year, provided that Broxton is coming along as hoped and someone in the system is emerging in the near future such as Brinson or Phillips or Cordell, which seems fairly likely.

 

3) Someone from this is likely emerging as trade bait as some point. Braun is the most preferable, obviously, but it remains to be seen how much the NTC will affect that possibility, and of course, he has to keep hitting too. Santana could turn into a significant trade piece if he turns in a healthy, and offensively significant season, but his defense and the emergence of others prevents him from being a piece Stearns wants to build around.

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If Braun is on the roster in 2 years, which seems likely to me, and we have a glut of outfielders that we don't want to trade, Braun would make the most sense by far to move to 1b. Infield background, he'll be slowing down in the OF presumably. Or who knows, maybe the NL will get the DH sooner or later too.

 

What I think is probably more likely...we trade at least 1 OF for pitching - Santana or Broxton as they'll be closer to free agency and we'll have guys like Brinson and Ray waiting or already on the roster (in theory).

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